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Grand Theft Auto V: Announcement Trailer Nov. 2nd

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ZeroRay

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Claude was just the players avatar, so it was easy to bring out your inner sadist through him.

Versetti was a likeable scumbag for the most part so fucking shit up with him didn't cause a disconnect either.

CJ and Nico were apparently decent guys in cut scenes so the classic GTA idea of mindless violence didn't click with them, and for me who played as them.
 
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Marleyman

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Mesijs said:
Oh yeah in between every 10 missions or so he asked somebody "Oh, by the way, where is this guy?" and then he goes on with his senseless murder spree that does not make any sense logically.

I thought IV's story was really bad. I liked San Andreas, but story-wise, as pointed out above, it was horrible as well. At least in III and in Vice City, the main characters didn't even pretend to do all the killing for some sort of just cause.

I hope that in GTA V, we have another character like that, who is at least a believable criminal. Otherwise you might as well NOT make the main character a criminal if you want to tell another story...
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It is a game in the end, man. You have to add the elements they did to make it that. What senseless murder spree was he involved in? He did what he had to do to get the information necessary. He saved his cousin from getting beaten/killed, murdered a guy and his crew for banging his cousin's girl, hung out with Little Jacob and helped him, which in turn had Little Jacob help you in the end. I honestly cannot remember one mission that was just put there that had dick to do with the end game. Sure there were "drive here and kill these guys" you gotta have those. Why was so bad about the story?
 
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gutter_trash

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ZeroRay said:
Claude was just the players avatar, so it was easy to bring out your inner sadist through him.

Versetti was a likeable scumbag for the most part so fucking shit up with him didn't cause a disconnect either.

CJ and Nico were apparently decent guys in cut scenes so the classic GTA idea of mindless violence didn't click with them, and for me who played as them.
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100% agree

I found that SA and GTA4 to contain too much weeshy washy drama and whawha dialogue while GTA3 and GTAVC was more honest and contained more campy humor
 
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Jonm1010

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Ok. So this thread has me interested in playing the ballad of gay Tony and the lost and damneda DLC.

However, I got tired of GTAIV, so is it truly a welcome departure from that? Second do I have to have beaten the game to access these? I'm guessing no but I wanted to be sure.
 
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truly101

I got grudge sucked!
Nico had issues with being forced to participate in a countrywide genocide. He never complained about dirtywork as a hired thug, the two aren't really equatable. People just assumed that Nico was the nice foreigner that didn't want to get mixed up in a racket, where actually he never seemed to have issues with that.

CJ wanted to leave his old life behind, but was brought right back in it as soon as he landed in SA. He made no bones about dirty work either especially once he decided he and his brother were betrayed and he had to leave town.

I think people wanted to project the whole nice guy image on both when it was never there, and while they were nicer than the people they did business with, they were always thugs and scoundrels.
 
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Anth0ny

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gutter_trash said:
100% agree

I found that SA and GTA4 to contain too much weeshy washy drama and whawha dialogue while GTA3 and GTAVC was more honest and contained more campy humor
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All you had to do was follow the damn train CJ.
 
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Dabanton

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Jonm1010 said:
Ok. So this thread has me interested in playing the ballad of gay Tony and the lost and damneda DLC.

However, I got tired of GTAIV, so is it truly a welcome departure from that? Second do I have to have beaten the game to access these? I'm guessing no but I wanted to be sure.
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The tone of both games is very different to the vanilla GTA:IV

Lost and Dammed is pretty cool because you have your biker brothers along on missons with you and it feels as grimy as hell. Plus massive battles with other biker gangs is always fun.

Gay Tony is everything R* learned over that period, no phone calls,better missons,weapons and fast cars that can be delivered to your location, i found the drug wars side missons pretty fun.And of course Luis can basejump and parachute from roofs and helicopters. they have an underground fight club that's a nice distraction for a while. And being able to replay missons from your phone is also a cool feature.

And storyline wise it gives you a valid reason for killing lots of gangsters if you need that justifcation.
 
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The Albatross

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IMO, the Lost and the Damned is the best. It's gritty, but still enjoyable, and the bike handling makes you prefer to find bikes. I thought that it was really well done in that regard, plus you don't get pulled off into as much minutiae as you do the regular GTAIV story. Ballad of Gay Tony was too over the top for me with some missions, they seemed like Rockstar was forcing in these "zany" but still on-rails zany missions to try to balance out the demand from gamers.

IMO, the best part of GTAIV is how all of the missions tie into the diamond heist. I only wish that Rockstar had fleshed that out a bit more. It's the one strand in each story, but for the most part, it doesn't quite carry over to the rest of the games.
 
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chemicals

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I was a HUGE fan of GTA until GTA4. The framerate is baaaad. I know the graphics are supposed to make up for it, but I'd rather the smooth, life-like jaggy world of San Andreas to the sloowww, jumpy world of GTA4. Hopefully they give us a v-sync option a'la Bioshock 2.
 
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Data West

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LifEndz said:
You thought Luis was bland? Wow...I could see accusing him of being a lot of things, but bland? You must've thought Niko was dead.
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Uh Luis was very bland. You must've been confused by Tony who was not bland. Luis's whole role was 'I am rly good at talking to girls' and that's about it. Even Johnny had more character
 
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BlueTsunami

there is joy in sucking dick
gutter_trash said:
100% agree

I found that SA and GTA4 to contain too much weeshy washy drama and whawha dialogue while GTA3 and GTAVC was more honest and contained more campy humor
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I'd say SA contained a great balance between the two where GTA4 just upset everything
 
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The Albatross

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chemicals said:
I was a HUGE fan of GTA until GTA4. The framerate is baaaad. I know the graphics are supposed to make up for it, but I'd rather the smooth, life-like jaggy world of San Andreas to the sloowww, jumpy world of GTA4. Hopefully they give us a v-sync option a'la Bioshock 2.
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Just to be clear, here, San Andreas was anything but smooth. Sure, I prefer it to GTA4 as well, but the game ran like shit on every console, and even on PC.

Lest we remember fire scenes, or when you drive past those wire sculptures in Los Santos, or when you drive through the farms in those races, OR when you combine fire with any of those scenes, or when there is smoke in any scene.

Love GTA:SA, but the game performed pretty poorly.
 
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The Albatross

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zoner said:
Uh Luis was very bland. You must've been confused by Tony who was not bland. Luis's whole role was 'I am rly good at talking to girls' and that's about it. Even Johnny had more character
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^ This.

Luis was the most boring character from the GTAIV games, playable or non-playable. He's probably the most boring protagonist of any of Rockstars recent games.

Well. Besides, of course,


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JASPER
 
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Fjordson

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Jonm1010 said:
Ok. So this thread has me interested in playing the ballad of gay Tony and the lost and damneda DLC.

However, I got tired of GTAIV, so is it truly a welcome departure from that? Second do I have to have beaten the game to access these? I'm guessing no but I wanted to be sure.
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No, you don't have to beat the game. And they are departures, both awesome as hell.
 
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Chaucer

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chemicals said:
I was a HUGE fan of GTA until GTA4. The framerate is baaaad. I know the graphics are supposed to make up for it, but I'd rather the smooth, life-like jaggy world of San Andreas to the sloowww, jumpy world of GTA4. Hopefully they give us a v-sync option a'la Bioshock 2.
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Agree with this. The game was too slow for me to enjoy. Once in a while I pick up GTA4 and try it out again and it just bothers me too much. I don't see a GTA game at 60fps (or even 30 locked) in the near future since any new hardware will be used for better IQ and the frame rate will stay in the same range. I need to play GTA4 for PC maybe.
 
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Socreges

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ZombieSupaStar said:
If that is the case, I hope its a repeat of the GAF SA reveal thread with people "not relating" and "not liking the orange tinting of the lighting", that was damn hilarious.
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My only problem was that the game seemed to have abandoned the italian mafia angle which is much more interesting. Didn't give a shit what his skin colour was. I think that was the case with most people.
 
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The Albatross

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Socreges said:
My only problem was that the game seemed to have abandoned the italian mafia angle which is much more interesting. Didn't give a shit what his skin colour was. I think that was the case with most people.
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Really, though, that was only the case for the first section of Los Santos. I think a lot of people might have dismissed it as only being ghetto gang violence, but as soon as the Los Santos portion begins to wrap up, about, which is like the first 25% of the game, it moves into San Fierro which deals with the Yakuza and other traditional gang environments, and then wraps up in Las Venturas with a sizeable Italian mob setting. Towards the end of San Andreas, CJ is the catalyst for who sets off the mob war from GTAIII.

It's not ONLY Italian mob, but GTAIII and Vice City weren't either.
 
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R_thanatos

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chemicals said:
I was a HUGE fan of GTA until GTA4. The framerate is baaaad. I know the graphics are supposed to make up for it, but I'd rather the smooth, life-like jaggy world of San Andreas to the sloowww, jumpy world of GTA4. Hopefully they give us a v-sync option a'la Bioshock 2.
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WHAT ?
SA was a lag fest ...
 
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Trick_GSF

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CJ was a a decent guy in the fact that if you were decent to him, you'd have no trouble. He was good to his friends and loved his family. However, if you wronged him, he would quite happily shoot you in the dick and then laugh about it.

Lawful Evil, or chaotic neutral, if you will.

Tommy was Lawful Evil, I'd say.
 
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BobTheFork

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ZombieSupaStar said:
If that is the case, I hope its a repeat of the GAF SA reveal thread with people "not relating" and "not liking the orange tinting of the lighting", that was damn hilarious.
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I don't know if it was orange tinting, but I felt like I played that whole game with a horrible sunset glare and made it hard to see.
 
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VistraNorrez

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Fjordson said:
No, you don't have to beat the game. And they are departures, both awesome as hell.
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I was alternating between IV LaD and TBoGT (and some RDR). It was. great experience to Pulp Fiction the game. It made Niko's story better and not so tedious. Niko's story was just too long, and restarting a mission totally sucked.
 
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pakkit

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Read Dead Redemption and Bully are my favorite Rockstar games. GTAIV had a lot of potential, but it's cumbersome checkpoint system and flat writing really leeched my enthusiasm for it near the end.

I'm interested, but I hope Rockstar aims for attention to detail and keeping the game world as believable and involving as possible instead of concentrating on how many miles of gameworld are on the disc.
 
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Buckethead

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One of IV's biggest flaws is that it takes approximately 3 hours to save your damn game thanks to the 3 save houses you have, loading elevators, and other fun things.

Thanks Rockstar!
 
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mysticwhip

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Buckethead said:
One of IV's biggest flaws is that it takes approximately 3 hours to save your damn game thanks to the 3 save houses you have, loading elevators, and other fun things.

Thanks Rockstar!
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That's why you take a taxi, saves sooooooo much time.
 
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Net_Wrecker

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Buckethead said:
One of IV's biggest flaws is that it takes approximately 3 hours to save your damn game thanks to the 3 save houses you have, loading elevators, and other fun things.

Thanks Rockstar!
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Along with lack of rewards, lack of health regeneration, lack of checkpoints in vanilla GTAIV, the clunky cover mechanics, the janky shooting, bad weapon selection system, saved vehicles being lost if you destroy them, heavy ass controls, slow as hell minigames, etc. etc.

And that's from someone who still loved the game anyway. Thankfully, they've since remedied most of these in the expansions, and/or Red Dead Redemption, but there's still a ways to go. It's no surprise people gravitated to Saints Row 2 which was way more snappy in every facet, and had no problem admitting it was still a video game.
 
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Data West

coaches in the WNBA
Buckethead said:
One of IV's biggest flaws is that it takes approximately 3 hours to save your damn game thanks to the 3 save houses you have, loading elevators, and other fun things.

Thanks Rockstar!
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Never had a problem. Game constantly autosaved
 
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Lakitu

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I remember GTA IV's opening. Off the ship, getting into the car with Roman and driving in the night. The atmosphere was so good. I love the night in that game.
 
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ZeroRay

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Lakitu said:
I remember GTA IV's opening. Off the ship, getting into the car with Roman and driving in the night. The atmosphere was so good. I love the night in that game.
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Best opening was GTA3, I can honestly say that it felt like nothing before when I started driving; a real revolutionary moment.
 
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Pimpbaa

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chemicals said:
I was a HUGE fan of GTA until GTA4. The framerate is baaaad. I know the graphics are supposed to make up for it, but I'd rather the smooth, life-like jaggy world of San Andreas to the sloowww, jumpy world of GTA4. Hopefully they give us a v-sync option a'la Bioshock 2.
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I take it you are not talking about the PS2 version of San Andreas. It was anything but smooth. The 360 version of GTA4 probably has double the framerate of the PS2 version of SA most of the time.
 
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RooMHM

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Net_Wrecker said:
Along with lack of rewards, lack of health regeneration, lack of checkpoints in vanilla GTAIV, the clunky cover mechanics, the janky shooting, bad weapon selection system, saved vehicles being lost if you destroy them, heavy ass controls, slow as hell minigames, etc. etc.

And that's from someone who still loved the game anyway. Thankfully, they've since remedied most of these in the expansions, and/or Red Dead Redemption, but there's still a ways to go. It's no surprise people gravitated to Saints Row 2 which was way more snappy in every facet, and had no problem admitting it was still a video game.
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What the f... Are you sure any kind of difficulty shouldn't be removed from missions and the game as a whole too? Not enough hand holding?
 
Dacon

Dacon

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I want a Grand Theft Auto game set in Tokyo with a big emphasis on the car scene, the Yakuza, and over the top missions.

I have the feeling this won't be that game.
 
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Net_Wrecker

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RooMHM said:
What the f... Are you sure any kind of difficulty shouldn't be removed from missions and the game as a whole too? Not enough hand holding?
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1. Lack of health regeneration in a free roam sandbox game is ridiculous. Having to constantly call up that gotdamn health vehicle, or stock up on health packs and vests is tedious as balls. When you add the Euphoria physics which LOVE to screw the player over by taking health off every roll and bump, and it's a recipe for disaster. I can't even count the number of times Niko stumbled to death off a 6 foot ledge because I had no health after a mission. It's no mistake that Red Dead Redemption had regenerating health, as will GTAV if they're smart.

2. You really gonna defend lack of checkpoints?

3. You really gonna defend GTAIV's cover system?

4. Saved vehicles being lost when you take them out for a joyride isn't "difficulty." Saints Row has the right idea. If I destroy my saved vehicle, let me pay to have it fixed, and put back into my garage.

I don't need my hand held, but I do need a game that does everything possible to let the player have fun with the tools provided. GTAIV was like a beautiful woman in your bed that shot you in the hand every time you tried to touch her.
 
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gdt

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Gosh, I forgot how much I loved GTAIV complete. Can't wait for the next one.

RDR is the best GTA game though.
 
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Buckethead

Banned
GTA 3 intro was amazing. Definitely my favorite.

But San Andreas opening, riding bikes trying to get away from ballas was pretty cool,

Dacon said:
want a Grand Theft Auto game set in Tokyo with a big emphasis on the car scene, the Yakuza, and over the top missions.

I have the feeling this won't be that game.
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That game was cancelled.
 
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