Spiderman 2 drops as low as 1296p in the E3 demo.
See above. its somewhere between 1440p and 1080p. At least the Matrix demo averaged 1404p with rare drops to 1080p.
Yes, the trailer credits confirmed they are using metahuman tech but im not seeing this massive upgrade in texture quality.
If you think this
Killzone was on the same level as Anthem, and Rainbow 6 as the biggest downgrades ever.
It was not our fault, they presented the game that way to make you buy a ps3, that shit was on purpose like any ubisoft downgrade, don't kid yourself, it's not your job to know what a console is capable of, especially if you are just an excited kid.If you think this
looks "a gen ahead"
of this
Then I dont know what to tell you, Avatar objectively looks worse and is coming out 2 years after Burning Shores.
Killzone was on the same level as Anthem, and Rainbow 6 as the biggest downgrades ever.
But looking back... they were simply CG trailers. We were just fucking stupid. CG trailers happen all the time.
Ubisoft will fake their actual game.... As in make non- CG trailers (Watch Dogs, Rainbow 6, Far Cry) and sell you a huge lie. They'll make a whole ass real time demo to pretend thats how the game looks, then the game drops and looks a whole gen worse. Give me the CG trailer instead.
Look man.
Heres what they sold us:
Heres what we get
Look at the goddamn foliage downgrade. Look at the goddamn lighting downgrade. The dust. Its a brand new game. The Ubisoft special.
I dont know why or how you people have so much faith in UBISOFT lol.
They may have gotten better over the past 2 years, but the damage has been done. I simply dont trust them until the game is out. I dont know how anyone does.
Yes Sony does the same shit but their games in the end still hold up amongst the best of the best graphics wise. No one here can deny the quality output of Sony 1st Party games the past decade or so. Same cannot be said for Ubisoft. Their quality output is all over the fucking galaxy.
And the thing with TLOU 2 is yeah it got downgraded, but the final product was still easily the best looking game of the gen. Thats exactly what im talking about.
Lol this shit is not using ue metahuman cmonYes, the trailer credits confirmed they are using metahuman tech but im not seeing this massive upgrade in texture quality.
Lea Seydox looks way better.
Because those pictures are compressed to shit. Truly next gen leap if it doesn't get downgraded ofc, but Kojima is usually pretty good at showing us what we will ultimately get without much difference.
They must have the shittiest version of metahuman ever made.
Why thou doubt me, Brutus?
dude The Lea Seydox pics are from the same compressed source. Even in this comparison, his model doesnt look as good as her or the baby.Because those pictures are compressed to shit. Truly next gen leap if it doesn't get downgraded ofc, but Kojima is usually pretty good at showing us what we will ultimately get without much difference.
Lol this shit is not using ue metahuman cmon
Different locations and different scenes. Also the first trailer is pc footage while the latest one is from a ps5 so big difference. Still need to see the game on pc to judge its best graphics.If you think this
looks "a gen ahead"
of this
Then I dont know what to tell you, Avatar objectively looks worse and is coming out 2 years after Burning Shores.
Killzone was on the same level as Anthem, and Rainbow 6 as the biggest downgrades ever.
But looking back... they were simply CG trailers. We were just fucking stupid. CG trailers happen all the time.
Ubisoft will fake their actual game.... As in make non- CG trailers (Watch Dogs, Rainbow 6, Far Cry) and sell you a huge lie. They'll make a whole ass real time demo to pretend thats how the game looks, then the game drops and looks a whole gen worse. Give me the CG trailer instead.
Look man.
Heres what they sold us:
Heres what we get
Look at the goddamn foliage downgrade. Look at the goddamn lighting downgrade. The dust. Its a brand new game. The Ubisoft special.
I dont know why or how you people have so much faith in UBISOFT lol.
They may have gotten better over the past 2 years, but the damage has been done. I simply dont trust them until the game is out. I dont know how anyone does.
Yes Sony does the same shit but their games in the end still hold up amongst the best of the best graphics wise. No one here can deny the quality output of Sony 1st Party games the past decade or so. Same cannot be said for Ubisoft. Their quality output is all over the fucking galaxy.
And the thing with TLOU 2 is yeah it got downgraded, but the final product was still easily the best looking game of the gen. Thats exactly what im talking about.
Motorstorm was a literal CG trailer. Even I, at 15, knew that at the time lol.
Downgrade happen in literally every sony big game, origins, odissey and valhalla look ike their reveal trailer at least.Motorstorm was a literal CG trailer. Even I, at 15, knew that at the time lol.
But look we are comparing Sony practices from like 15 years ago to what Ubisoft does today.
to this
And this
to this shit (lmao at these PS2 ass explosions)
Is the Ubisoft special.
I ain't gonna let y'all convince me to be hyped for Avatar or Outlaws until I see real gameplay from actual Users. And I sure as shit aint gonna brand them "fantastic 4" until we actually play them. They have lost that right.
Downgrade your game. Fine. It happens. But upon release that game better hold up as one of the best looking of the gen. They dont.
All companies downgrade their stuff, its part of gaming. Ubisoft has just been really slimey about it.
Says who? Says gymwolf? Go replay the dlc
The dlc?
Baffled. You just helped my pointIf you think this
looks "a gen ahead"
of this
Then I dont know what to tell you, Avatar objectively looks worse and is coming out 2 years after Burning Shores.
Killzone was on the same level as Anthem, and Rainbow 6 as the biggest downgrades ever.
But looking back... they were simply CG trailers. We were just fucking stupid. CG trailers happen all the time.
Ubisoft will fake their actual game.... As in make non- CG trailers (Watch Dogs, Rainbow 6, Far Cry) and sell you a huge lie. They'll make a whole ass real time demo to pretend thats how the game looks, then the game drops and looks a whole gen worse. Give me the CG trailer instead.
Look man.
Heres what they sold us:
Heres what we get
Look at the goddamn foliage downgrade. Look at the goddamn lighting downgrade. The dust. Its a brand new game. The Ubisoft special.
I dont know why or how you people have so much faith in UBISOFT lol.
They may have gotten better over the past 2 years, but the damage has been done. I simply dont trust them until the game is out. I dont know how anyone does.
Yes Sony does the same shit but their games in the end still hold up amongst the best of the best graphics wise. No one here can deny the quality output of Sony 1st Party games the past decade or so. Same cannot be said for Ubisoft. Their quality output is all over the fucking galaxy.
And the thing with TLOU 2 is yeah it got downgraded, but the final product was still easily the best looking game of the gen. Thats exactly what im talking about.
Burning shores is DLC for HFW
I literally did exactly that
Nah man. The scale of that gif. The gifs slimysnake put up yesterday.
Crazy talk.
I do feel like that’s the art style that Kojima wanted to go with
Incorrect. All recent Insomniac games use temporal injection, which is a form of upscaling. DF did pixel count on Spiderman 2 and it was dropping bellow 1400p in its internal resolution. Remember, that's 30fps mode, internal resolution for 60fps mode will be even lower, perhaps dipping below 1080p.
Insanity.
Not if you keep this up because you’re doing a very poor job lolInsanity.
vs
One looks like a Sony 1st party game. The other looks like a Ubisoft game.
By the end of today im going to put an end to this "Avatar > Burning Shores" nonsense lol
We are gonna see when the game release how much ahead it is gonna be.
When you do a face scan in what is basically a hollywood game with famous actors, fidelity should be the prime object because the cast is half the reason why people buy your ups simulator.
Wait a second, yesterday you were saying Avatar looks too good to be true but now its downgraded to oblivion? what?Motorstorm was a literal CG trailer. Even I, at 15, knew that at the time lol.
But look we are comparing Sony practices from like 15 years ago to what Ubisoft does today.
to this
And this
to this shit (lmao at these PS2 ass explosions)
Is the Ubisoft special.
I ain't gonna let y'all convince me to be hyped for Avatar or Outlaws until I see real gameplay from actual Users. And I sure as shit aint gonna brand them "fantastic 4" until we actually play them. They have lost that right.
Downgrade your game. Fine. It happens. But upon release that game better hold up as one of the best looking of the gen. They dont.
All companies downgrade their stuff, its part of gaming. Ubisoft has just been really slimey about it.
FunkMiller
for framing exactly the person i was thinking about the new mj
Bruh
DS remake was announced to have RT shadows that were quietly removed in the final game. The reveal trailer was all cutscenes or CG so its hard to say if the RT shadows were in there, but seeing as how the game was announced with RT shadows, they probably were in there. Ratchet on the other hand improved its RT reflection quality. One Sony game that improved after reveal though i do remember that one section that Benzy giffed that had lower GI bounce lighting in the final game.Downgrade happen in literally every sony big game, origins, odissey and valhalla look ike their reveal trailer at least.
I forgot the last sony reveal that didn't had a downgrade except maybe demons remake.
Bad still image trying to prove a point doesn't work with me friendo, let the game release and then we can talk.
I don't think outlaws looks good enough to get a downgrade, maybe avatar.
You are both insane if you think you are doing something more than splitting hairs with these 2 games, you get a slight edge because the game is not out yet so we only have ubisoft trailers to speak of.
Well. Pack it up boys. Represents mom who knows more about mars than games says horizon 2 is better
Interesting.
I hope this thing plays aswell as it looks, but it is fucking ubisoft, so...Wait a second, yesterday you were saying Avatar looks too good to be true but now its downgraded to oblivion? what?
Also, holy crap at those dishonest as fuck comparisons. Ubisoft had a similar flying shot in the trailer you conveniently ignored despite me posting it just last night.
Is it downgraded? yes. No one is denying that, but a massive downgrade? hell no. Especially when comparing the cutscenes with the ingame cutscenes they showed off two years ago.
The foliage still looks dense as fuck and just had its shading downgraded. They said, PCs will have their highest quality RTGI and shadows, and should look closer to the original reveal.
The game features stunning lighting, insane draw distances, way more dense foliage and unlike GG and other sony studios, they showed off their game with actual PS5 footage of dozens of different areas in the game, not some bs vertical slice like the ones we are so used to seeing at E3 from Sony first party.
Lmao
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Please change thread title to 'Graphical Fidelty Represent's Mom expects this gen.' Every game gets downgraded so yes, but it will still look better than every single cross gen games out there.
Have you slept under a rock? because you definitely have missed the release of at least 2 GPU generations which both absolutely mob the floor with what the consoles bring to the table.....
Thank you for the most reasonable post in here lately, literally all of these games look awesome and every one of them show signs of inconsistency also at the end of the day your display matters when playing these games I just fired up Rift Apart again last night on my new qd-oled and from what I remember it's way more vibrant than my lg oled so it's a completely different experienceI think I'm the only one that loves the look of Starfield, loves the look of Spidey 2 and loves the look of Avatar.
They are all highly impressive and will immerse the shit out of me.
I'm not going to shit on these games for not pushing some imaginary visual benchmark, I'm going to shit on the games that look mediocre or bad.
With that said, I'll stick up against the spidey slander especially when people try to tell me Starfield looks better.
This ain't better than Spidey. This is impressive because its presumably one area in a massive game, but the levels aren't one massive area like Spidey. This doesn't look better than Shadowfall to me. Most levels are barren. The foliage heavy levels have poor alpha affects. If scale is why this is next gen, well Spidey has 4+ boroughs. How do you even compare Avatar which is all foliage to a city environment? Whats the closest thing to Spideys city, maybe Cyberpunk?
Anyway I'm more than happy with these games, my criticism comes from devs that haven't even showed up to the party or these next gen only games like Lies of P or Remnant 2 that look actually last gen. GT7 should also look way better even though its cross gen its meh.
The fact that we have so many gifs of the same game, and all of them vary in quality. Is all I need to know. The game is all over the place. Does it look next gen or does it look last gen? I don’t know. The gifs I posted are real and don’t look good. The ones you posted look great. So which is it? It’s Ubisoft. Im going with the lowest common denominator. It will probably be an inconsistent game like FF16. Amazing at times and hideous at times.Wait a second, yesterday you were saying Avatar looks too good to be true but now its downgraded to oblivion? what?
Also, holy crap at those dishonest as fuck comparisons. Ubisoft had a similar flying shot in the trailer you conveniently ignored despite me posting it just last night.
Is it downgraded? yes. No one is denying that, but a massive downgrade? hell no. Especially when comparing the cutscenes with the ingame cutscenes they showed off two years ago.
The foliage still looks dense as fuck and just had its shading downgraded. They said, PCs will have their highest quality RTGI and shadows, and should look closer to the original reveal.
The game features stunning lighting, insane draw distances, way more dense foliage and unlike GG and other sony studios, they showed off their game with actual PS5 footage of dozens of different areas in the game, not some bs vertical slice like the ones we are so used to seeing at E3 from Sony first party.
The point was if you can’t determine which of those 2 gifs I posted look better then you are delusional lol
Exactly my sentiment…
To be fair, climbing and melee combat in the ac games is like 100x better and less clunky than climbing and melee fighting in forbidden west, it's not like guerrilla doesn't have some shit gameplay in their games.
Oh no don’t worry. I determined which one looked better
Worse, it's Massive Studios. If you've played the Division series, you know how sterile it feels compared to even AC and Far Cry games. Hell, Division makes AC Unity and Origins (the two best AC games in last gen) feel like Sony first party games.
I disagree with you here like a Christian disagrees with an Atheist lol
No idea how people think Avatar and HFW look alike, lol. Avatar looks better and it is noticeable. It's not like it barely looks better you have to bring in a microscope to see that. No, it looks noticeably better. Represent are putting them side by side in an attempt to downplay Avatar's graphics and at the same time showcase HFW's graphical prowess and it has comically backfired as Avatar looks better. Yes, not generations better but noticeably better nonetheless and this is after it got downgraded.Wait a second, yesterday you were saying Avatar looks too good to be true but now its downgraded to oblivion? what?
Also, holy crap at those dishonest as fuck comparisons. Ubisoft had a similar flying shot in the trailer you conveniently ignored despite me posting it just last night.
Is it downgraded? yes. No one is denying that, but a massive downgrade? hell no. Especially when comparing the cutscenes with the ingame cutscenes they showed off two years ago.
The foliage still looks dense as fuck and just had its shading downgraded. They said, PCs will have their highest quality RTGI and shadows, and should look closer to the original reveal.
The game features stunning lighting, insane draw distances, way more dense foliage and unlike GG and other sony studios, they showed off their game with actual PS5 footage of dozens of different areas in the game, not some bs vertical slice like the ones we are so used to seeing at E3 from Sony first party.
What the fuck are you talking about, both division games are better than the ac or watch dogs or latest far cry games.