Ye seeing stuff like avatar, alan wake or GTA is only exciting because it's a preview of the graphics that AA, indie and nintendo gamer will have in 10 years,
that opening shot into Pandora is a legit next gen is here moment.
Graphics are always going to be subjective. As we approach photorealism, its going to come down to art style, cinematography, and animation work. Avatar doesnt have animations so its always going to start off with a disadvantage next to TLOU2 and HFW.
Yep. Its plug and play like a console game. No shader compilation. No stutter. No fucking around with settings for half an hour running benchmarks. Great CPU usage despite using RT everywhere. Forza, Callisto, Cyberpunk, and star wars have trash CPU usage as soon as you turn RT on. No vraam issues either. Not a single crash in 7 hours of play time. Game selects the best settings and has you to ready to go immediately. It's been a disastrous year for PC ports, and tbh, the last few years in general since cyberpunk came out, but this game is as close to perfect at launch as you are going to get on PC.
Yep. Sound design is easily the best ive heard in a game. The forest feels alive with all plants, animals, water and wind all emitting sounds. I read a preview where the devs said that nothing is faked. All the sounds you hear are from plants and animals around you in the world at the time. so if you are in a different area with different plants and animals, you will hear different noises. Its funny how cerny made a big deal about audio, and a 3rd party game finally makes full use of it three years later.
This. In terms of open worlds, nothing has been announced let alone revealed that comes close to Avatar. Sony will have GoT 2, TLOU3 and Horizon 3 that should top it but those games havent even been revealed. Horizon is at least 4 years away and tlou3 and GoT2 are 2-3 years away, and again havent even been announced after 3.5 years since their last game. Hellblade 2 will top AW2 next year for linear games, but open world especially ones set in the wilderness arent even on the radar at the moment. I expected witcher 3 and tomb raider to be at the VGA this year since those studios last released games in 2020, but i guess 3 years isnt enough to make a fucking teaser trailer like gta6 so those games are years out just like tlou3 and GoT2.
Star wars outlaws same engine
What is your cpu usage during the graphic benchmark? Mine stay at 15-20% in 4k, is it normal?
If you use afterburner/rivatuner and like to have the option to quickly toggle it on and off without having to alt tab out, enable the hotkey plugin in rivatuner and you can setup a hotkey to toggle the overlay on and off.
I feel like Avatar would of been right up the alley of a developer like Crytek. Crysis 3 to me looks closer to the source material than the actual Avatar game, and this is a 10 year old game.I dont understand such praising of GI implementation too. First thing I ve been noticing since first trailer - lack of AO in places where it should be. Animals' models, hands and other dynamic objects look weird/
Postrocessing, where is it? I dont see high quality motion blur, dof at far distance and other things which make Avatar movie and many games look so impressive. ubisoft are well known haters of rich cinematic look.
When is that Horizon game coming out for the PC again?
I don't really like to have anything open when i play to avoid possible problems.
Sometime next year
My fault M1987, we can't buy PC games anymore (that's what we use to be able to do back in the day); I should of said when is it coming out for these client platforms?
Night time continues to impress me.
HDR make night very bright.
Well, graphics as whole, wouldn't you agree? Art style, stylized look etc., is subjective, if a game takes an approach to realistic look, IMO it becomes objective. That's why I always say that people confuse the hell out of the stylized vs realistic approach.
That Ubisoft feeling started kicking in?
Yeah the game is painfully average except for the graphic and nice movements.
Shots from the Avatar movie. The style of the art is not suppose to look like a cartoon.I feel like Avatar would of been right up the alley of a developer like Crytek. Crysis 3 to me looks closer to the source material than the actual Avatar game, and this is a 10 year old game.
Youtube compression looks terrible, but my point is the materials, self shadowing and visual effects like motion blur ect. Not only that, but the Avatar game has that console game look to it; When you look at the game world from the weapon model pov it doesn't have that characteristic of attention to detail I grew up seeing in PC first person shooters.
Fair enough, I run afterburner/rivatuner nearly all the time because I run different power profiles depending on what I'm playing but only rarely turn the overlay on. I generally don't run into problems, even the last remnant 2 patch where people were saying it was crashing the game I didn't have any problems. I think most of the problems people have is stacking all these bloatware drivers for rgb mice/keyboards/fans/aio etc especially shit like icue hooking into games for rgb nonsense.
Like, I have such a boner for ff16 soft shadowing in some scenes. Makes it look so fantastic.I know what you're saying and its all in the robust soft shadows. That is why Final Fantasy XVI best moments look very good, the more realistic shadow rendering.
Ultimately for avatar I do believe it was an artistic choice to go with a more cartoonish art style as unfortunate as that is. I fear game studios think players prefer a colorful world that "pops" at all times. Still, the rtgi definitely does plenty to minimize that ultra cartoonish look. That much can't be said about Forbidden West.
You’ll be blown away by Red Dead on PC, especially once you get to the first non-frozen campsite/area. That’s why I have so much faith in Rockstar with GTA 6; they don’t do downgrades with their games.
Indeed. It’s honestly one out of maybe 3 games this year that hasn’t had wonky performance on PC right out of the gate. Ubisoft is Ubisoft, but I’ve gotta give credit where it’s due; they made a game as good looking as this, and it runs… Normally. Incredible. It makes me confident in Star Wars Outlaws since such uses the same engine as Avatar.
Yh you can see their gas giant planet in that gif. That’s what making everything so bright at night.
Nah, the humans looks noticeably worse, important characters like prya and alma human form looks worse than throw away side-characters with one line of dialogue in horizon.
I also don't have any of that shit just to be sure
Yeah I noticed this, after living in Miami for 10 years it's clearly the most grounded and accurate recreation of a city anyone's ever attempted in a game. I started putting together some screenshot and comparisons but it was too much work, that guy went the whole mile!
Looked awesome.
This game looked solid too, Exodus, new IP.
The lighting model is the quality of the light propogating throughout the scene. Its a mixture of the direct light's implementarion and setttings quality like the qualtity of the light's attentuation over a distance mixed with the quality of the GI solution, how coarse it is and whether its dyamic or not.
I think the lighting is comprised of two things, one is obviously the technical side about the accuracy of light bounce while the other is mostly reliant on artists deciding the color saturation and the different art styles (HFW's hyper realism vs Matrix's photorealism). You can put Matrix's assets and shaders in metro and it wont make it look photorealistic. the lighting needs to be tweaked by artists to have that look Polyphony Digital mastered decades ago while Forza struggles to capture it in 2023.
The color pallete will make or break realism and that definitely requires a certain skillset and will to go for that style from devs. I dont think Forza is aiming for photorealism and quite frankly Im not sure why not. It seems its alot more difficult to hit that realistic but still stylized look and keep the image aestheticly pleasing at the same time. For all the talk about getting dangerously close to the uncanny valley i cant help but think the easiest way to avoid it is to stop trying to side step it and just target photorealism directly or at least Filmic realism. (Like the Matrix)
Havent run the benchmark but during the game its around 45-50%. I am GPU bottlenecked in the game. RT isnt causing the CPU bottlenecks which means good optimization.
Wait to reach the second, more open zone, the framerate tanks a little.
