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[Bojji]

RDNA5 is a big, big leap that Kepler has repeatedly talked about. It's seemingly massive enough to take those specs well into 9070 XT territory and slightly beyond. Didn't say it myself, he did.

I think he was talking about RT performance mostly. I doubt we will see massive gains like that in raster.

 

[mrqs]

Sad how DICE lost its edge. Barely anyone sharing Battlefield 6 screens.

 

[RodriGames40]

I think he was talking about RT performance mostly. I doubt we will see massive gains like that in raster.

He meant both, afaik. RT is seemingly even bigger.

 

[Bojji]

He meant both, afaik. RT is seemingly even bigger.

I think it was mostly about RT.

Raster gains between RDNA1-3 were small, RDNA4 improved it by some margin. Raster IPC gains are not as common these days.

 

[M1987]

Sad how DICE lost its edge. Barely anyone sharing Battlefield 6 screens.

It's not out yet,but the graphics from the Beta were really good

 

[Flabagast]

edit: wrong thread

 

[Critical Hit]

 

[Msamy]

no it wont be ;d

Bet on that? Avatar?

 

[Sept Terrion Of Nothing]

Seems good. But what I get from Crimson Desert is like Jack of All Trades: Doing everything good to a certain level, never master any of them.

Not that this is a bad thing of course.

 

[Abysse]

Seems good. But what I get from Crimson Desert is like Jack of All Trades: Doing everything good to a certain level, never master any of them.

Not that this is a bad thing of course.

Following this logic, we could say the same about GTA 6.

 

[Sept Terrion Of Nothing]

Following this logic, we could say the same about GTA 6.

 

[March Climber]

Following this logic, we could say the same about GTA 6.

To be fair to Sept Terrion Of Nothing one of the biggest complaints about GTA (and to a lesser extent, RDR) is in regards to it's gameplay and mission design.

 

[FalconPunch]

PS6 will push path tracing as we want, New radiance cores for next gen GPUs,universal compression and high end ML Neural rays for upscalling, Cerny aren't joking here, PS6 will be a monster, hopefully sony developers talk same approach and use those techs on their games, can't wait for ps6

While this news is good, it comes across as expectation management. The vibe I get is that they're getting ahead of any leaked paper specs of the ps6 which will surely seem thoroughly unimpressive. By doing this now, people can begin to buy into the idea that the ps6 will punch well above its weight. However, if every amd gpu has these features, then all gpus will punch above their weight taking us back to square 1. If the paper specs are unimpressive, the comparative specs will be unimpressive.

Finally, Radiace Cores seem extremely similar to Nvidia's RT cores.

 

[sncvsrtoip]

Bet on that? Avatar?

Nah but like your optimism that 160b and 160w small budget targetet soc from amd will be on rtx5080 raster level and better in ray tracing ;d

 

[Msamy]

While this news is good, it comes across as expectation management. The vibe I get is that they're getting ahead of any leaked paper specs of the ps6 which will surely seem thoroughly unimpressive. By doing this now, people can begin to buy into the idea that the ps6 will punch well above its weight. However, if every amd gpu has these features, then all gpus will punch above their weight taking us back to square 1. If the paper specs are unimpressive, the comparative specs will be unimpressive.

Finally, Radiace Cores seem extremely similar to Nvidia's RT cores.

AMD take more than 10 years to get there definitely will be great for next gen considering sony and Microsoft go with amd

 

[Msamy]

Nah but like your optimism that 160b and 160w small budget targetet soc from amd will be on rtx5080 raster level and better in ray tracing ;d

By its time achieve this will not be this hard also I don't think they will go with 160w

 

[March Climber]

Cerny has appeared, so we all know what this means.

699.99 in 2029.

 

[Bojji]

Cerny has appeared, so we all know what this means.

699.99 in 2029.

599$ for portable PS6
799$ for standard console (maybe 699$ for lesser SKU)

November 2027. BELIEVE.

 

[March Climber]

599$ for portable PS5
799$ for standard console (maybe 699 for lesser SKU)

November 2027. BELIEVE.

2029 (or late 2028 at the earliest), so that they can sell it for slightly less.

Portable PS5 in 2027 for 499 or 549 (they won't let it exceed the price of a PS5).

 

[Bojji]

2029 (or late 2028 at the earliest), so that they can sell it for slightly less.

Portable PS5 in 2027 for 499 or 549 (they won't let it exceed the price of a PS5).

Fixed portable PS5PS6.

I would like 2028 release but they already have plans in motion...

 

[Feel Like I'm On 42]

How can anyone have confidence in ps6 after the ps5 pro? Seriously, they've proven that even with an expensive console, Sony refuses to put together something really powerful. Their systems are always going to be gimped somewhere due to their "cost saving" approach and refusal to just plop a powerful GPU with sufficient memory bandwith. We're also still dealing with AMD so Ray Tracing will be comprimised in some way compared to Nvidia.

Lost all trust I had in Cerny and Sony.

 

[March Climber]

How can anyone have confidence in ps6 after the ps5 pro?

Because I have never put faith in the pro consoles, and neither should you (or anyone here). Out of all of them, even the portable ones with a slight bump in power, only one that ever actually mattered and made a big difference was the Xbox One X.

Every other one has been not utilized correctly by most third parties, and the exact reasoning for that is because 'pro' consoles are not the new standard. They are an option.

The Playstation 6 will be a new standard, not option. Everyone, third parties included, will treat it as such.

I just hope that the people here who were burned by the PS5 Pro are more cautious when the PS6 Pro comes out mid 2030s.

The PS5 Pro is the "I told you so" that I truly felt bad about, because that's a lot of money spent for disappointment. So I understand the anger.

 

[Pharaoh 117]

How can anyone have confidence in ps6 after the ps5 pro? Seriously, they've proven that even with an expensive console, Sony refuses to put together something really powerful. Their systems are always going to be gimped somewhere due to their "cost saving" approach and refusal to just plop a powerful GPU with sufficient memory bandwith. We're also still dealing with AMD so Ray Tracing will be comprimised in some way compared to Nvidia.

Lost all trust I had in Cerny and Sony.

I think Sony should've skipped the mid-gen upgrade like MS did. Pro doesn't really have enough power to deliver the promised Quality mode + Performance mode mix. Although there's hope for PS5 Pro if PSSR2 is anywhere close to FSR4.

AMD already improved RT with RDNA4. Still behind Nvidia no doubt but it's getting there. I tested the 9070XT and even Cyberpunk Path Tracing is playable with some sacrifices. And it will only get better with RDNA5. The fact they are talking about Path Tracing this early gives me hope that it will be a great focus on PS6.

 

[Pharaoh 117]

Because I have never put faith in the pro consoles, and neither should you (or anyone here). Out of all of them, even the portable ones with a slight bump in power, only one that ever actually mattered and made a big difference was the Xbox One X.

Every other one has been not utilized correctly by most third parties, and the exact reasoning for that is because 'pro' consoles are not the new standard. They are an option.

The Playstation 6 will be a new standard, not option. Everyone, third parties included, will treat it as such.

I just hope that the people here who were burned by the PS5 Pro are more cautious when the PS6 Pro comes out mid 2030s.

The PS5 Pro is the "I told you so" that I truly felt bad about, because that's a lot of money spent for disappointment. So I understand the anger.

I disagree on PS4 Pro, I think it was a good option if you had a 4K display. Agree with everything else.

 

[icecold1983]

Ok cool, but not a single word about the Pro, which seems nearly abandonned now

If you actually took 700$ and bought a Pro you get what your stupidity deserves. A fool and his money will always part ways.

 

[ZehDon]

While this news is good, it comes across as expectation management. The vibe I get is that they're getting ahead of any leaked paper specs of the ps6 which will surely seem thoroughly unimpressive. By doing this now, people can begin to buy into the idea that the ps6 will punch well above its weight. However, if every amd gpu has these features, then all gpus will punch above their weight taking us back to square 1. If the paper specs are unimpressive, the comparative specs will be unimpressive.

Finally, Radiace Cores seem extremely similar to Nvidia's RT cores.

Well, I'm inclined to believe Cerny will deliver hardware that punches above its weight because he's done twice in a row. Smart decisions and the right trade offs let the PS5 maintain parity, and a slight advantage in some cases, over the Series X, despite the Series X have an on-paper advantage. He did that by designing a machine that simply easier to get the most out of. I suspect he'll aim to deliver the same again with the PS6, while Microsoft will be aiming for more advanced tech, that's also harder for Dev's to actually use, in order to justify the NextBox's higher hardware costs from going open platform.

 

[March Climber]

I disagree on PS4 Pro, I think it was a good option if you had a 4K display. Agree with everything else.

PS4 Pro also had some issues of spotty performance, with variable resolution issues, and multiple articles and DF calling this out. I'm not saying it was a bad pro, it was okay and certainly much better than the PS5 Pro with living up to it's offerings, but only the Xbox One X was actually pushed to be sort of a 'new' console at that time(including MS doing what they could to help developers optimize for it), with Microsoft heavily marketing it and pushing the original Xbox One into a quick grave.