Graphical Fidelity I Expect This Gen

About an hour into Silent Hill f. Maxed out, 4k, and have forced DLSS 4 / forced DLAA / forced hardware Lumen.

It looks good, but nothing amazing. Performance-wise, it runs well outside of the occasional stutter.

A few shots so far:

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"For Yotei, we realized very quickly that we needed to improve draw distance. To portray the vastness of the Hokkaido map, we needed to be able to render distant views with high fidelity and accurate depth of space. We can now load millions of assets, with tens of thousands visible on-screen at once. Real-time particles like leaves, snow, ash and fog number in the hundreds of thousands across both near and far distances."

Interesting...more info in the link.

Epic fail. What good is throwing in "millions of assets" on screen if they're wrapped in poor texture quality and improperly lit? That just makes things a million times uglier in my opinion. For their own sake they better not show up tomorrow. Or at least have the damn game running on Pro. It needs all the brute force from hardware it can get because resolution doesn't look great in most of those garbage marketing trailers.
 
About an hour into Silent Hill f. Maxed out, 4k, and have forced DLSS 4 / forced DLAA / forced hardware Lumen.

It looks good, but nothing amazing. Performance-wise, it runs well outside of the occasional stutter.

A few shots so far:

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It feels like making a stable console version was their first priority. The base PS5 version being a flawless 60fps with very little difference between its Quality and Performance modes, other than IQ, is pretty telling which version they focused on.
 
About an hour into Silent Hill f. Maxed out, 4k, and have forced DLSS 4 / forced DLAA / forced hardware Lumen.

It looks good, but nothing amazing. Performance-wise, it runs well outside of the occasional stutter.

A few shots so far:

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I like the fog in SH2 better. Feels a lot more volumetric and thick instead of just a haze filter that we are seeing here.

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Epic fail. What good is throwing in "millions of assets" on screen if they're wrapped in poor texture quality and improperly lit? That just makes things a million times uglier in my opinion. For their own sake they better not show up tomorrow. Or at least have the damn game running on Pro. It needs all the brute force from hardware it can get because resolution doesn't look great in most of those garbage marketing trailers.
the draw distance will be noticeable though. i mean it was the first thing we all noticed in the reveal trailer. it will show up on screen for sure.

the problem like you said is the lighting and since most of the game will take place in cloudy conditions, the extra draw distance wont really get a chance to shine. But you wont have to worry about them being improperly lit during day time.
 
I really hope they can get the hair rendering that good in the final PHYSINT game, hair is a major weakness for so many devs (incl. KojiPro) that undermines otherwise solid visuals. The low res alpha/DoF and that ugly bloom/glow are so distracting with hair in games as is the aliasing and flicker, not to mention hard edges, pointy corners and a lack of natural movement. I would've thought by now that ML techniques would've been developed to target and clean up problem areas of the frame like that.
 
About an hour into Silent Hill f. Maxed out, 4k, and have forced DLSS 4 / forced DLAA / forced hardware Lumen.

It looks good, but nothing amazing. Performance-wise, it runs well outside of the occasional stutter.

A few shots so far:

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uA4HO5znXU2Sezgf.png
9TxSiGnYKEcsuoNn.png
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I like the fog in SH2 better. Feels a lot more volumetric and thick instead of just a haze filter that we are seeing here.

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May have spoken too soon. Game is impressing more and more as I dive into it further:

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Proper volumetric fog has arrived as well:

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I really hope they can get the hair rendering that good in the final PHYSINT game, hair is a major weakness for so many devs (incl. KojiPro) that undermines otherwise solid visuals. The low res alpha/DoF and that ugly bloom/glow are so distracting with hair in games as is the aliasing and flicker, not to mention hard edges, pointy corners and a lack of natural movement. I would've thought by now that ML techniques would've been developed to target and clean up problem areas of the frame like that.
Well you're in luck I'd say, Nvidia, Sony & AMD are going all in with AI Neural Rendering and this is one of the 1st things you'll see getting major attention & enhancements, look at RTX Hair, RTX Subsurface Scattering (even RTX faces but that's early stuff) and what the 60-series will provide in terms of quality enhancements through AI Rendering. I bet we'll see most of that coming to PS6 since they want to standardize the usage of AI throughout the next-generation.

It's why I come back to this video from Digital Foundry from time to time when they had hands-on with many Nvidia AI demos running in real-time on 50-series hardware at CES 2025, early stuff, but they are a precursor for what's to come in the next generation for sure & I bet The Witcher 4 will utilize most of those AI techniques for the PC version.

 
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Some textures in Silent Hill f are very low res. I dont like either how in UE5 games lately, depth of field is very aliased and low resolution even at max settings. Almost as if DLSS is not applied before DOF and it hurts inage quality a lot during cutscenes.

The game doesn't look bad mind you, but like someone said here, it feels like a low budget UE5 game in terms of graphics and technology
 
No, what explains it is that the world size for Yotei is about the same as Tsushima's. Nothing else. The tech for lighting, skin shaders, textures, foliage density have all improved significantly. Unless you are comparing it to the PS5 version of Ghost of Tsushima, which would be unfair.


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No, what explains it is that the world size for Yotei is about the same as Tsushima's. Nothing else. The tech for lighting, skin shaders, textures, foliage density have all improved significantly. Unless you are comparing it to the PS5 version of Ghost of Tsushima, which would be unfair.


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People really went full retarded when it comes to graphics. It's impossible to have an honest coversation about it outside places like this one.
 
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Those people are holding onto the rasterised torch for dear life

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Alan wake 2, space marine 2, plagues tale, ratchet and Callisto have baked lighting. You can still make a game with great baked lighting as long as you invest in higher quality assets, volemetric effects and other expensive post processing effects. Hell, hfw looks better than this trash.
 
Alan wake 2, space marine 2, plagues tale, ratchet and Callisto have baked lighting. You can still make a game with great baked lighting as long as you invest in higher quality assets, volemetric effects and other expensive post processing effects. Hell, hfw looks better than this trash.
Yea I know, but the people defending GoY are mostly the usual suspects who think UE5 is cancer and ray tracing is a gimmick
 
We didn't appreciate OD Trailer Enough, it's Fucking legit confirmation that we are start reaching cgi quality on real time, kojima misjudged because of sony strategy this gen
 
We didn't appreciate OD Trailer Enough, it's Fucking legit confirmation that we are start reaching cgi quality on real time, kojima misjudged because of sony strategy this gen

Oh that trailer went way beyond those Sony CG trailers. PS6 is the gen i thought PS5 gen would be, even though i still believe current gen console hardware is underutilized.
 
We didn't appreciate OD Trailer Enough, it's Fucking legit confirmation that we are start reaching cgi quality on real time, kojima misjudged because of sony strategy this gen
its insane but not a real game. it will be even more limiting than hellblade 2.

that said, yes, the we cant hit cg crowd is in shambles.
 
Oh that trailer went way beyond those Sony CG trailers. PS6 is the gen i thought PS5 gen would be, even though i still believe current gen console hardware is underutilized.
Definitely ps5 underutilized at least from sony developers the fact that I can render models like below on mid range mobile device on real time using godot engine which it's self far behind unity leat alone UE5 proves that those lazy ass developer's do nothing this gen
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