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[GymWolf]

its hard to say tbh. They all have their strengths and weaknesses. I was just blown away by Shadows consistently. it does so many things right and it impresses so often for so many different reasons that I kind of stopped thinking about other games. Wukong shines with its nanite implementation but later levels dont really have that classic lumen look of the first two levels. Avatar has incredible lighting and density in the first level, fantastic draw distance in the second area, but the third area just looks mid at best. Shadows has an awful looking autumn season, but the difference is that the wind effects, rain and other time of day changes can transform the ugliest season in the game masking its shortcomings really well. its virtualized geometry implementation shines through at all times regardless of the weather or season so its worst levels arent really impacted unlike wukong which looks mid in the caves in chapter 4 and the volcanic levels in chapter 5.

far more consistent is why id rank it higher. but thats today. i might change my mind in a couple of years when the game isnt as fresh in my mind.

Character models are clearly the low point of shadows and they are not a rare sight in the game, so it is consistently good with locations, consinstently mid or just ok with characters.

Not sure if i ever gonna consider shadows the most consistent when a large part of it are not up to par with even an old crossgen like fw, we are not talking about something you see every 5 hours, characters are as present as any other graphical aspect.

Until ubisoft solve their character rendering problem they are never gonna be at the top for me.

 

[Msamy]

This alongside GTA VI, OD, 007, Fable, maybe gears 6 and others, next year will be the best for us

 

[Msamy]

This what yotei should look like like

 

[blastprocessor]

Suprised Yotei doen't have some film grain would have been a nice touch.

 

[Dampf]

This what yotei should look like like

But then you will get people complaining that it runs at 30 FPS with upscaled 720p.

 

[GymWolf]

If slimy play yotei there is a good chance he get an aneurysm or something, and i'm gonna leave at that...

 

[SlimySnake]

This looks really good. From era.

Why is most of the game set in dark cloudy areas of their day time looks this good?

 

[GymWolf]

This looks really good. From era.

Why is most of the game set in dark cloudy areas of their day time looks this good?

Those open field is where the game is at its best.

But i see some photomode fuckery in this pic, distant vegetation is a bit fuzzy on my end, rt pro mode on a c1, or maybe i'm channelling my inner mass effect andromeda and my face is just tired after an hard working day...

 

[BlownUpRich]

My God! This looks absolutely phenomenal. WTF?! That last screenshot looks like one of those "out of reach" (Unreal Engine 4 demo graphics that we used to see in 2019/2020.)

The words that are highlighted are the edited words.

 

[Represent.]

Yes, Yotei literally has the worst marketing of all time. They should be fired. It looks great, plays great, story is generic but good. Sucker Punch has upped their game, just not an Uncharted - Uncharted 2 level jump. More of just an extra polished refine.

 

[Senua]

Yep very nice pics indeed

 

[SlimySnake]

My God! This looks absolutely phenomenal. WTF?! That last screenshot looks like one of those "out of reach" Unreal Engine demo graphics.

Sorry but these pics do nothing for me. Terrible ue3 style brown lighting.

 

[BlownUpRich]

Sorry but these pics do nothing for me. Terrible ue3 style brown lighting.

No problem, they hit a spot for me I guess, I always liked this color palette especially in RDR2 when it's under certain weather conditions.

 

[BlownUpRich]

Yes, Yotei literally has the worst marketing of all time. They should be fired. It looks great, plays great, story is generic but good. Sucker Punch has upped their game, just not an Uncharted - Uncharted 2 level jump. More of just an extra polished refine.

I cannot believe how badly they undersold the game's visual sweetness, I swear I would've done much better job at showcasing the game, better sizzle reels & vista showcases, the game looks jaw-droppingly good, a big leap over Ghost of Tsushima, I think it features the best particle systems, vegetation, wind simulation & draw distances I have ever seen in any video game to date.

 

[SlimySnake]

I find it hilarious how real life backgrounds look like 2d cardboard cutouts instead of 3d. really low resolution textures too. also that awful haze to hide low LOD mountains. It's like God is a lazy developer and using those cheap techniques to mask the fact that he's not using lumen and nanite.

 

[Jack Howitzer]

I cannot believe how badly they undersold the game's visual sweetness, I swear I would've done much better job at showcasing the game, better sizzle reels & vista showcases,

Absolutely no! Screenshots captured directly from sorry ass yt video with heavy asf motion blur and meaningless dof effects all over the place like some wannabe 540p 4chan leaks is the way, this is the absolutely cinema quality playstation verified masterpiece you should be proud of. Anything else is generic unnecessary unoptimized DEI disapporved humanity disgrace.

 

[March Climber]

I find it hilarious how real life backgrounds look like 2d cardboard cutouts instead of 3d. really low resolution textures too. also that awful haze to hide low LOD mountains. It's like God is a lazy developer and using those cheap techniques to mask the fact that he's not using lumen and nanite.

They used some odd effects and an odd focal length on that video, that's why it doesn't look right and looks 2D. Here's better footage:



That twitter video reminded me of a photogrammetry technique not that many years ago where a developer tried to use it differently for photorealistic graphics (this was pre-AI), and whenever he moved the camera the world would "bend" around the focal point like an old Doom game where the sprites always faced the player. If I can find the video I'll post it.

 

[ResetEraVetVIP]

This looks really good. From era.

Why is most of the game set in dark cloudy areas of their day time looks this good?

This looks really good.

 

[ResetEraVetVIP]

My God! This looks absolutely phenomenal. WTF?! That last screenshot looks like one of those "out of reach" Unreal Engine demo graphics.

This has some awesome density and draw distance, this looks way better than the previews.

 

[Gonzito]

The npcs in Yotei look terrible. They have this plastic look, because the lighting is so basic. It doesn't help either they dont move their eyes when looking around. Environments look good but npcs look from the ps3 generation

 

[Critical Hit]

Yep very nice pics indeed

Doesn't mean much if it's a photo mode, though.

 

[TheRedRiders]

Been looking at the screenshots of Yotei as well as HQ gameplay footage, still looks like it's slightly better version of Tsushima, what is worse is the visual inconsistency of the game, it just about scrapes a next-gen looking game in under very tight conditions, open scenic areas and such - but during combat, especially during night it looks like a DLC of the first game.

 

[GymWolf]

The npcs in Yotei look terrible. They have this plastic look, because the lighting is so basic. It doesn't help either they dont move their eyes when looking around. Environments look good but npcs look from the ps3 generation

Yeah their digital acting is stuck on ps4 level, and not even the best ps4 level.

And there is huge difference between atsu and the yotei 6 and every other character, the part with the family in the family house is when you see all the limits of the game at once.

 

[BlownUpRich]

This has some awesome density and draw distance, this looks way better than the previews.

Yes! I don't know why my post got 3 LOL reactions, am I wrong for being impressed even though I always seek the best graphical fidelity there exists in games & I always demand for a stronger push towards better graphics quality?

Folks, Ghost of Yotei has some real great visual splendor that I don't think other games do it in the same way, not saying holistically it's as good as AC Shadows, but it absolutely beats it in some regards, Ghost of Yotei has weaknesses, every game does, but when everything comes together, it paints a vast & delicious graphical landscape that I don't think it lends itself into this type of ridicule & disparagement that I'm seeing in this thread. You are free with how you feel, and I can be free in feeling puzzled with your reactions & tonal behaviors.

Not you ResetEraVetVIP, you're cool & respectful.

 

[Critical Hit]

am I wrong for being impressed

I LOLed at "That last screenshot looks like one of those "out of reach" Unreal Engine demo graphics.", not because you're impressed.

 

[BlownUpRich]

I LOLed at "That last screenshot looks like one of those "out of reach" Unreal Engine demo graphics.", not because you're impressed.

Well OK I guess I didn't detail what I meant exactly & I apologize, meant to say it reminds me of one of those older UE4 demos that we used to see 2019/2020 before UE5 lol, not exactly UE5, nothing comes close to UE5's geometry & lighting even most games today.

I should have been more detailed about it.

 

[BlownUpRich]

Hmm interesting video, why does the PS4 version posses the same characteristics that remind me of Black Ops 3 360/PS3 versions? It has that same empty unpolished look.

 

[Critical Hit]

& I apologize

You're too serious

 

[BlownUpRich]

You're too serious

And you're too flippant.

 

[analog_future]

This looks really good. From era.

Why is most of the game set in dark cloudy areas of their day time looks this good?

This looks incredible. Wow

My God! This looks absolutely phenomenal. WTF?! That last screenshot looks like one of those "out of reach" (Unreal Engine 4 demo graphics that we used to see in 2019/2020.)

The words that are highlighted are the edited words.

This looks like more Ghost of Tsushima.


Some of my Tsushima shots for reference:

 

[Gonzito]

Unacceptable quality for NPCs in Ghost of Yotei. I have seen npc's in playstation 3 games that looked better

 

[GymWolf]

Some shitty absolutely random phone pics

Don't pity-like this post please, i know they are shit pics
The game can have great stuff and horrible stuff in the same fucking pic...

Oh look at the scene composition and nice grass...wtf is that geometry on the tree trunks and rocks on the ground?

Oh look a tree with nice details...wtf it literally morph into mush the lower you look?

Oh look some nice wood floor...wtf is the light so flat (and for me to notice bad light it must fuck me in the ass without lube).

The game is like this all the time except when you fast ride in this large vista grass fields, for a dude like me that value consistency this is a roller coaster assault to the sense type of game...
It's waaaaaay too hit and miss.

 

[SlimySnake]

Yes! I don't know why my post got 3 LOL reactions, am I wrong for being impressed even though I always seek the best graphical fidelity there exists in games & I always demand for a stronger push towards better graphics quality?

Folks, Ghost of Yotei has some real great visual splendor that I don't think other games do it in the same way, not saying holistically it's as good as AC Shadows, but it absolutely beats it in some regards, Ghost of Yotei has weaknesses, every game does, but when everything comes together, it paints a vast & delicious graphical landscape that I don't think it lends itself into this type of ridicule & disparagement that I'm seeing in this thread. You are free with how you feel, and I can be free in feeling puzzled with your reactions & tonal behaviors.

Not you ResetEraVetVIP, you're cool & respectful.

the ridicule comes because its not a big leap over Ghosts. And because it literally feels like DLC despite taking 5+ years and having 8x more GPU power to work with.

it's a sony first party game which means it does cinematic in a way very few studios do. Maybe Rockstar, Rocksteady and Remedy can compete with these guys on cinematic flair. I mean spiderman 2 had some of the most incredible setpieces and jaw dropping moments ive seen this gen. But doesnt excuse the fact that 90% of the time the game looked last gen.

People in this thread appreciate good graphics. Yes, you got 3 LOL reactions, but like i said earlier, those screenshots look very dated. Now compare the reactions on the screenshot i posted. 14, no LOL reactions. if the game looked like that at all times, this thread would appreciate it. People here did a 180 on Alan Wake 2, Avatar, AC Shadows, and Silent Hill 2 after playing it. We'll see if that holds true for this game, but so far i am noticing the same trajectory as Death Stranding 2.... i.e., fans love it, but people who expect next gen fidelity dont.

 

[ChiefDada]

People in this thread appreciate good graphics. Yes, you got 3 LOL reactions, but like i said earlier, those screenshots look very dated. Now compare the reactions on the screenshot i posted. 14, no LOL reactions. if the game looked like that at all times, this thread would appreciate it. People here did a 180 on Alan Wake 2, Avatar, AC Shadows, and Silent Hill 2 after playing it. We'll see if that holds true for this game, but so far i am noticing the same trajectory as Death Stranding 2.... i.e., fans love it, but people who expect next gen fidelity dont.

Check again.

 

[GymWolf]

This looks incredible. Wow




This looks like more Ghost of Tsushima.


Some of my Tsushima shots for reference:

You people can't legit tell me these look a generation behind yotei...

 

[RodriGames40]

Hmm interesting video, why does the PS4 version posses the same characteristics that remind me of Black Ops 3 360/PS3 versions? It has that same empty unpolished look.

Means their cross gen is likely coming to an end next title, hopefully.

 

[Msamy]

We need to move on from yotei bullshit and start talking about Expectations from other sony studios after nsomniac redeem themselves are we expect the same from other sony studios ?, personally for current gen I expect ND and SSM to have great showpieces at TGA and February S.O.P, but for guerilla I don't know horizon 3 will be cross or next gen title and I don't think they gonna push their tech on horizon online, so it likely this gen will ends with only three sony studios taking advantage of available hardware tech

 

[ChiefDada]

This looks incredible. Wow




This looks like more Ghost of Tsushima.


Some of my Tsushima shots for reference:

Yotei lighting and draw distance are generationally better. In these open spaces, I can easily tell which game is which before you can blink. But I admit it's much more difficult around the camp areas. Asset quality like rock textures and geometry do not have a significant uplift (possibly zero).

 

[TheRedRiders]

We need to move on from yotei bullshit and start talking about Expectations from other sony studios after nsomniac redeem themselves are we expect the same from other sony studios ?, personally for current gen I expect ND and SSM to have great showpieces at TGA and February S.O.P, but for guerilla I don't know horizon 3 will be cross or next gen title and I don't think they gonna push their tech on horizon online, so it likely this gen will ends with only three sony studios taking advantage of available hardware tech

Horizon 3 will likely be cross-gen on PS5 to PS6, GG really went out their way to push HFW on PS5 despite it being a PS4 title.

GG are amongst the small number of studios left chasing bleeding edge gaming visuals and I suspect that Horizon 3 will be a technical marvel which we are not ready for.

 

[GymWolf]

If sony management doesn't fuck guerilla over like they did with sp and yotei, we can expect melting faces from h3, it is gonna be the game to go against witcher 4 in a direct graphic comparison, i'm sure of this because both horizon released close to 2 overr...game of the forever like elden and botw, so it is basically a non-written law.

Having an horizon 3 with a big budget is literally the only reason to want helmet at the driving seat, hopefully it doesn't fuck up again and make the game nextgen only but who i'm fucking kidding, these fuckers only believe in generations of wealth...

 

[Msamy]

Horizon 3 will likely be cross-gen on PS5 to PS6, GG really went out their way to push HFW on PS5 despite it being a PS4 title.

GG are amongst the small number of studios left chasing bleeding edge gaming visuals and I suspect that Horizon 3 will be a technical marvel which we are not ready for.

I hope that horizon 3 will be next gen only to make guerilla take full advantage of PS6 unlike what they did with ps5, even HFW looks great as cross gen title

 

[SlimySnake]

We need to move on from yotei bullshit and start talking about Expectations from other sony studios after nsomniac redeem themselves are we expect the same from other sony studios ?, personally for current gen I expect ND and SSM to have great showpieces at TGA and February S.O.P, but for guerilla I don't know horizon 3 will be cross or next gen title and I don't think they gonna push their tech on horizon online, so it likely this gen will ends with only three sony studios taking advantage of available hardware tech

they wouldve revealed horizon online if it was a thing. at this point, i wouldnt be surprised if it gets cancelled.

Like RedRiders said, Horizon 3 will be cross gen with ps6 so it will look at least as good as AC Shadows/Avatar/Witcher 4. Whether or not it rivals GTA6 remains to be seen, but horizon fw looked better than rdr2 so i think anything is possible.

Not quite sure what to think about Cory's new game but you said the Order lead engine programmer is heading the new game so that gives me hope.

Same goes for ND. After wolverine and Saros, and the inclusion of RTGI in Yotei, im cautiously optimistic. of course, that means i have to go off on the assumption that the native 4k 60 fps trailer they created for Intergallactic was fake.

 

[Bojji]

Some shitty absolutely random phone pics

Don't pity-like this post please, i know they are shit pics
The game can have great stuff and horrible stuff in the same fucking pic...

Oh look at the scene composition and nice grass...wtf is that geometry on the tree trunks and rocks on the ground?

Oh look a tree with nice details...wtf it literally morph into mush the lower you look?

Oh look some nice wood floor...wtf is the light so flat (and for me to notice bad light it must fuck me in the ass without lube).

The game is like this all the time except when you fast ride in this large vista grass fields, for a dude like me that value consistency this is a roller coaster assault to the sense type of game...
It's waaaaaay too hit and miss.

Damn, they loaded some FFVII Rebirth textures by accident

 

[GymWolf]

they wouldve revealed horizon online if it was a thing. at this point, i wouldnt be surprised if it gets cancelled.

Like RedRiders said, Horizon 3 will be cross gen with ps6 so it will look at least as good as AC Shadows/Avatar/Witcher 4. Whether or not it rivals GTA6 remains to be seen, but horizon fw looked better than rdr2 so i think anything is possible.

Not quite sure what to think about Cory's new game but you said the Order lead engine programmer is heading the new game so that gives me hope.

Same goes for ND. After wolverine and Saros, and the inclusion of RTGI in Yotei, im cautiously optimistic. of course, that means i have to go off on the assumption that the native 4k 60 fps trailer they created for Intergallactic was fake.

I'm gonna be fucking disappointed if h3 on ps6 doesnt utterly destroy avatar and shadows.

At least as good is a joke and not nearly enough, cmon.

 

[GymWolf]

Damn, they loaded some FFVII Rebirth textures by accident

It's damning because the tree looks pretty decent otherwise.

 

[Critical Hit]

Wow, what a miracle next-gen day 1 patch.

 

[Msamy]

they wouldve revealed horizon online if it was a thing. at this point, i wouldnt be surprised if it gets cancelled.

Like RedRiders said, Horizon 3 will be cross gen with ps6 so it will look at least as good as AC Shadows/Avatar/Witcher 4. Whether or not it rivals GTA6 remains to be seen, but horizon fw looked better than rdr2 so i think anything is possible.

Not quite sure what to think about Cory's new game but you said the Order lead engine programmer is heading the new game so that gives me hope.

Same goes for ND. After wolverine and Saros, and the inclusion of RTGI in Yotei, im cautiously optimistic. of course, that means i have to go off on the assumption that the native 4k 60 fps trailer they created for Intergallactic was fake.

I think horizon online is the most precious hirman baby on all online strategy it would be very surprising to get canceled, for Cory game believe me we will be comparing with greatest of this gen, i really can't wait to see it on tga

 

[SlimySnake]

If sony management doesn't fuck guerilla over like they did with sp and yotei, we can expect melting faces from h3, it is gonna be the game to go against witcher 4 in a direct graphic comparison, i'm sure of this because both horizon released close to 2 overr...game of the forever like elden and botw, so it is basically a non-written law.

Having an horizon 3 with a big budget is literally the only reason to want helmet at the driving seat, hopefully it doesn't fuck up again and make the game nextgen only but who i'm fucking kidding, these fuckers only believe in generations of wealth...

the thing is that Helmet allowed insomniac to make ratchet a ps5 exclusive. allowed housemarque to make returnal a ps5 exclusive. BP made Demon Souls a ps5 exclusive, all in the first few months. then they didnt bother releasing TLOU remake for the ps4 despite the fact it wouldve easily run on it. Then released a $300 million spiderman 2 only on the ps5. its a company of contradictions, but i go back to developers from SSM and GG themselves saying how they didnt want to leave PS4 games behind, and how the ps4 allowed them to do everything they wanted to. I think the devs decided on this, and herman and jim ryan had nothing to do with it. they were probably happy but i doubt they mandated cross gen games at the biggest sony studios. sony is very hands off about what IPs these guys choose, let alone interfering with development just to milk the last gen audience.

you look at Ghosts and Death Stranding 2 being next gen only, being allowed to have 5-6 years of dev time, and they both failed to take advantage. I dont think its Herman. I think something just happened at these studios (kojima isnt even technically first party) that made them lazy.

Herman and jimbo or the upper echelons at Sony can be blamed for BP, Bend, Concord, Fair Games, and a bunch of other GaaS games that never materialized. But the rest is all on the devs. they did cut the budget of SP games, but the devs shouldve been smarter about it and chosen UE5 to reduce development costs.

 

[GymWolf]

Btw df show how much of a fucking clown company they are, they praised the equipment geometry even if in every piece of equipment there is always the low poly\geometry stuff like the little ropes.

And they had the fucking nerve to praise the character models even if it is just atsu and the yotei 6 and even them, are nowhere near horizon metahumans, atsu family legit look like mid ps4 characters, they are not better than shadows npcs at all.

I fucking hate these cunts.

 

[BlownUpRich]

Means their cross gen is likely coming to an end next title, hopefully.

OMG I hope so.