BronsonLee
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What a post. Nailed what I loved about the movie too.
BAD SHIT HAPPENS. He will scar your niece for life if he takes her to this. There's only sparingly few bad moments but they make this a real hard PG-13
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GRAVITY |OT| - From Director Alfonso Cuarón
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What a post. Nailed what I loved about the movie too.
BAD SHIT HAPPENS. He will scar your niece for life if he takes her to this. There's only sparingly few bad moments but they make this a real hard PG-13
Fallout-NL
Member
Saw it last night. Fucking incredible. Outstanding. If this is what can be achieved with 3D and CG, I guess I'm back on-board. Although I think no one is going to top this for a long, long time indeed.
My only complaint:
Other than that, it's pretty damn close to perfect.
My only complaint:
the two 'inspirational' moments where Bullock is talking to herself and there's the inevitable musical crescendo. Not necessary, and odd given that Cuaron hasn't afforded himself such luxuries in the past. Soundtrack was great except for that bit and the ending.
Other than that, it's pretty damn close to perfect.
SCULLIBUNDO
Banned
Give it three years.
Probably my favorite movie of the year so far. Two scenes in particular are going to stay with me for a long time:
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The initial 15 minute single-take shot. I'm sure it wasn't actually filmed in a single take, but that whole sequence was a thing of beauty.
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When the ISS explodes, it's just so amazing visually. I can't describe it. Just too intense.
Expendable.
Member
Yep, Fincher advised Cuaron, along with Cameron. Pretty cool!
Seeing this for a second time today with my dad, pretty excited to experience it with him.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
I will say that I love Ed Harris is the voice of NASA here. After The Right Stuff and Apollo 13, I always link him with cinematic astronauts, so I was glad to hear him again.
oh shit, I didn't even realize that!
Yeah, I found that a bit silly, even though she looked hot as fuck in that shot.
SCULLIBUNDO
Banned
Outlets need to stop referring to this film as a Sci-Fi.
I mean, people are aware that space exists, right?
I mean, people are aware that space exists, right?
Well, I think the movie is Science Fiction in the same way as Gladiator being Historical Fiction. The events in the film are fictional and the setting is scientific in nature!
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Its definitely not sci-fi by either major usage. It doesn't posit altered variables as a thought experiment on the human condition (purist usage...like The World's End or Moon!), nor is it high fantasy with a pseudoscience veneer (common usage...like Star Wars or John Carter of Mars!). It's a thriller involving existing technology and infrastructure.
SCULLIBUNDO
Banned
No no no no ducky. Don't go down that road. Otherwise everything that suddenly becomes fiction/fantasy because it didn't really happen and you've got Argo next to LotR at the video store.
The Librarian
Banned
Huh? The whole causation for events *depends* on altered variable!s! It assumes that in the future, the
Chinese will have their own space station, we will get a shuttle program up and running again, and for these events to take place all the space stations have to be in the same relative orbit. In reality they're not, and it'd be dangerous to have them all orbiting within the same plane.
You have to move all of these factors together in order to explore the human condition of what it's like being alone and helpless in space.
SCULLIBUNDO
Banned
You may want to spoiler some of that, Dax.
And the film isn't set in the future.
And the film isn't set in the future.
BronsonLee
Member
patjburns89
Member
Hot damn, you guys. Saw it last night, and my god, what a film. Truly something that everyone has to see. Even if the acting and plot pacing weren't great (which they are), it's worth seeing alone for how amazing it is visually.
Based Cuaron. I can't wait to see what he does next. Easily the best thing I've seen in years.
Based Cuaron. I can't wait to see what he does next. Easily the best thing I've seen in years.
Not a Jellyfish
but I am a sheep
Saw it in 3D IMAX last night, beautiful visuals and direction but that was about it for me.
Didn't feel the tension it was trying to convey and story elements seemed weak to me.
Overall I did enjoy it but was not wowed by it at all except for its visuals.
Didn't feel the tension it was trying to convey and story elements seemed weak to me.
Overall I did enjoy it but was not wowed by it at all except for its visuals.
Space Avocat
Member
Don't forget about Del Toro and Iñárritu. Game recognizes game?
The Librarian
Banned
They're best friends, and they even have their own production company that they set up together.
IIRC, Cuaron and Del Toro have known each other the longest, since they both worked on the same TV show back in the 80s.
I don't think so.
It seems more like an alternate reality of present day, since the shuttle program no longer exists. 
SCULLIBUNDO
Banned
It's not. It's presenting a fictional story where
the Chinese do have a space station.
The Fed Ex flight that takes off and strands Chuck Nolan on a remote island in Cast Away didn't exist either. It's not Sci-Fi.
The Librarian
Banned
I don't think so.It seems more like an alternate reality of present day, since the shuttle program no longer exists.
Well, either way, I think it's science-fiction. The movie's not clear on when it's set.
So...science-fiction?
I just saw this today in imax and wow! This just blew me away. Makes me happy that i bought a 3d tv this year so i can experience this again from my home. One of the scenes that stuck out for me was:
the scene where ryan just wanted to give up and commit suicide, then george clooney appeared. And im like, wow, that is such a cop out making clooney survive. I was disappointed at that moment because i thought they took the easy way out. But then you realize that it was just in her head. Wow. It was so well done that i was floored for a while (btw gave me a dead space vibe -- like isaac seeing nicole in dead space 1). Made clooney's death more impactful for me, and seeing ryan just pick herself up after that was awesome.
SCULLIBUNDO
Banned
Here you go Dax. 30 seconds in. http://youtu.be/fLY4k7JrUMg
disappeared
Banned
Watched it last night. It was a great film for what it set out to achieve, I think, but I was left feeling a little indifferent toward Ryan's character. I liked her well enough in that I thought she carried her character convincingly, but even by the end I didn't really care too much about her fate.
Honestly would have preferred a somewhat darker ending, but that's just me.
lilbaby Jesus
Member
Wow. Didn't know a movie would challenge Prometheus so soon for the best looking visual space related film. Or film period for that matter. Wow
BronsonLee
Member
disappeared, you may want to spoiler tag that last sentence
I had the exact same experience as you with that scene. I also felt it gave his death more impact. It's also one of the few fake outs in movie history that can clearly be identified as an hallucination from the outset (due to it being impossible in scientific sense) but where you're just so happy to see Clooney back helping Ryan that you are willing to forgo reason for a second and accept whats happening. Then when you realize its a dream it also hits you that Clooney will actually never come back and that he's gone for good.
The Librarian
Banned
So you're criticizing me for not knowing information that wasn't given in the film? You're faulting me for thinking that, because
the Chinese don't have a space station up yet
And you're saying a movie, set in space, which explores the human condition of being isolated by utilizing fictional elements and altering the variables isn't science-fiction? Especially with overt references to 2001:
the fetus scene and Ryan learning how to walk again once she got on Earth
firehawk12
Subete no aware
The shuttle doesn't. In fact, as discussed a few pages earlier, there's a lot you need to just ignore for it to work. lol
That's not really a complaint for me, just that there is quite a bit of suspension of disbelief. It just seems much more realistic than say, Oblivion or Star Trek or whatever else came out this year.
SCULLIBUNDO
Banned
Whoa whoa. Hold on there, cowgirl. I'm not criticising you at all. I was just pointing you to a relevant video to give Cuaron's take. We're all friends here.
And yes, it introduces fictional elements, but imo the nature of those elements don't make it Science Fiction in the narrative sense any more than any other fictional story that re-cognises the real world of today to adapt to the narrative does.
i know, at first i was like -- naw that cant be clooney. No way, he's gone, no way to -- lol yeah clooney with his one liners and being charming and drinking the vodka, so okay i can rest now -- to this is bs, he should be dead, that's pretty cheap to make him survive -- to holy shit that just happened.
Really great scene.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
It's hard science fiction. That doesn't mean it's still not science fiction.
Not a Jellyfish
but I am a sheep
I strongly agree with this posters opinion.
The Librarian
Banned
Must've misread you then. You just seemed to be getting on me for that.
That's a good point, but in order for you to say something isn't science-fiction, we should first establish what is science-fiction. As that would be difficult to nail down, this makes the discussion difficult. Exploring the human condition in space is one of the defining hallmarks of science-fiction – this is just one of the more realistic entries.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
This is easy though.
Gravity = science fiction.
Apollo 13 = historical fiction set in space.
+1
I like this post.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
RT: @duckroll: I like this post.
The Librarian
Banned
Well, yeah, because Apollo 13 is based on a real event.
firehawk12
Subete no aware
Exactly. Gravity isn't! It's set in some indeterminate future that doesn't possibly exist, so it is science fiction. Specifically, it is hard(ish) science fiction.
ViewtifulJC
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SCULLIBUNDO
Banned
It's 3:40am, I'm on my phone and my girlfriend is snoring next to me, so needless to say I can't type up a huge post. What I will say is that many different genres explore the human condition, and I don't think taking place in space is a big enough requisite for something being classified as science fiction - though I am I huge Sci-Fi fan and readily agree that the best sci-fi often explores the human condition.Must've misread you then. You just seemed to be getting on me for that.
That's a good point, but in order for you to say something isn't science-fiction, we should first establish what is science-fiction. As that would be difficult to nail down, this makes the discussion difficult. Exploring the human condition in space is one of the defining hallmarks of science-fiction this is just one of the more realistic entries.
I guess what I'm saying is:
Sci-Fi narratives commonly explore the human condition and are set in space, but exploring the human condition and being set in space are not the criteria for something being sci-fi.
Not a Jellyfish
but I am a sheep
Sorry about that?
I didn't know post like that were a problem or that they were part of any "culture", the post just summed up my thoughts on the film very well.