ashk said:Hi guys. I've been paying close attention to this thread since last week when your organiser told me there were a few open spots left. I just want to say I'm very impressed with all the work you've been putting into making the racing in this league exciting and fair, and I'm looking forward to racing with all of you (again).
The car I'll be using is the BMW Z4 M Coupe '08:
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Dibbz said:Is it still possible to sign up for this?
Could you share it so we can test it? Tuned to NRL specs preferably.[In//Effect-Mode] said:I have a car I would like tested in my shared garage, the nissan fairlady z32 '89.
Lol, that's why I get for speed reading. I'll test it and ask the other guys to do it too.[In//Effect-Mode] said:I did say it was in my shared garage.
UFRA said:The NRL would like to address some concerns regarding the upcoming race at Trial Mountain
The start of the race
We have noticed in practices, the first lap - and specifically the first 100 meters of the race - can be a complete disaster. Action will now be taken for reckless driving. The league uses standing starts, so drivers must use EXTREME CAUTION at the start of races - especially 4WD cars which have better take-off than others. Remember: The race cannot be won in the first lap, but it can be lost. ©2010-11 Angst
If a driver is noted as being a hazard and reckless during the start of a race, the driver AND TEAM will suffer a point loss in the standings. Please note that you CAN go into negative points if you have 0 to start with and cause a race start crash.
Corner cutting
Please note the following picture:
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Notice how the curb of the track extends partially into the grass. Here are the guidelines on corner cutting:
[B]You CAN[/B] drive your car onto the curb.
[B]You CAN[/B] have a MAX of 2 (left side) wheels touch the grass ([U]two (right side) wheels must maintain contact with the curb[/U]).
You [B]can NOT[/B] do what the blue BMW is doing.
Notes regarding this issue:
-If you are involved in a heated battle and accidentally get bumped into the grass, NO penalty will be issued.
-If you have all 4 wheels on the grass and use the cut to gain a position a points penalty WILL be issued.
-If you have all 4 wheels on the grass and [I]consistently[/I] cut the corner, even if you don't gain a position, a points penalty WILL be issued.
During the race, if you notice a driver that is consistently using the corner cut inappropriately, or to gain a position - please notify UFRA by GAF PM after the race is over. The replay will be reviewed and investigated.[/QUOTE]
Spot on! Good job you guys. Thumbs up all around. What about race practice starts? I hope this is implemented in our practice sessions whenever possible. Maybe do it before mock races? Say, 1 practice start per mock race? It's true that there is already a race start but I feel that highlighting it as a practice session will work out better.
I'm sure you guys already know but there are two other points of curb hopping to watch out for: Turn 1 and 2. Although they aren't as big a deal as the kink before the straight. I do tend to let two tires hang out on those turns though.
IMO those aren't much of an issue. Cut too much and car becomes massively unstable leading to a nice crash in turn 3. The track penalizes turn 1 and 2 pretty good.Kaze13 said:Spot on! Good job you guys. Thumbs up all around. What about race practice starts? I hope this is implemented in our practice sessions whenever possible. Maybe do it before mock races? Say, 1 practice start per mock race? It's true that there is already a race start but I feel that highlighting it as a practice session will work out better.
I'm sure you guys already know but there are two other points of curb hopping to watch out for: Turn 1 and 2. Although they aren't as big a deal as the kink before the straight. I do tend to let two tires hang out on those turns though.
Toxa said:damn 1.25.9 tonight (in race) weekend-warrior must be even more convinced that my car is faster
He was in first. I slip streamed him on lap 2 and got a 1.26.2 or .02, can't remember. Not sure which lap he clocked that though.Kaze13 said:wat the wat?! lol. damn. Slip stream or no?
Agreed. I have a feeling there will be plenty of unforced error wrecks due to those turns. As well as the final turns into the finish, but at least those lead into a straight and not a turn.Angst said:IMO those aren't much of an issue. Cut too much and car becomes massively unstable leading to a nice crash in turn 3. The track penalizes turn 1 and 2 pretty good.
Dead Man said:1:28 flat is the best I can do online, so very, very slow! If you want to race this race Ashk, feel free to replace me if that is okay with the league.
LOL, I'm quite comfortable being slow, I just thought I might use it as an excuse to let Ashk in on a race since I have already done a couple races and he is new to the league. I'll let him decide, but thanks for the reply.UFRA said:That's fine. Many people are running 1:28's.
You'll be fine out there since during the race with heavy damage, people who are going balls to the wall will be crashing. As long as you are clean and consistent you'll do well.
But if you want me to remove you and swap in ashk I can do that, just confirm your decision.
Kaze13 said:wat the wat?! lol. damn. Slip stream or no?
Toxa said:no I was first , Tommi Makkinen Edition guys :
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I congratulate MM and the other guys for their work here making the league fair for everyone.
bravo ![/QUOTE]
I don't get it.
Dead Man said:1:28 flat is the best I can do online, so very, very slow! If you want to race this race Ashk, feel free to replace me if that is okay with the league.
That's cool, I love Deep Forest, so I'll drive there if that is okay with the captain! I saw Niks practising with the Z4 Coupe today, he looked fast, so I think you should do well.ashk said:Sure, I'd love to race. I only started practicing yesterday so I still need to work on my consistency and car setup a bit, but I can do a decent fast lap.
To repeat for the entry list, I'm using the BMW Z4 M Coupe '08.
Don't worry about that Dibbz - just use the power limiter to fit into the restrictions. I've basically have had to limit my BMW by another .1 % after each race.Dibbz said:I'm looking to buy a car but with the BHP restriction you guys have in place do you take into account engine break in over time? Should I be looking to get a 380ish BHP so the break in over time doesn't take me over the restriction?
I've also shared a Subaru WRX STI '07 in the garage for you and the higher ups to check in case the z32 doesn't cut it.Angst said:Don't worry about that Dibbz - just use the power limiter to fit into the restrictions. I've basically have had to limit my BMW by another .1 % after each race.
Ah good point totally forgot about that.Angst said:Don't worry about that Dibbz - just use the power limiter to fit into the restrictions. I've basically have had to limit my BMW by another .1 % after each race.
Angst said:Don't worry about that Dibbz - just use the power limiter to fit into the restrictions. I've basically have had to limit my BMW by another .1 % after each race.
Yeah, Trial Mountain. For all info see the MEGA POSTDibbz said:Is there a race coming up soon or something? What track is it on? Trial Mountain?
Toxa said:about my car ? or my line about the league ?
Kaze13 said:1. Your car was a special edition?
2. I was curious about your line about the league.
Toxa said:1) Yeah T.M Edition (Tommi Makkinen )
2) in the previous race some cars were faster than others (3 second for some cars) now they make sure that all cars can make the same laptimes it's more fair (car banned/tested allowed
UFRA said:Yeah the Tommi Makkinen version essentially featured the special paint job which was similar to his actual rally car. Then it had a few cosmetic changes like a different bumper, nicer wheels, racing seats, Momo steering wheel etc.. lol.
Compare this to the Amuse Nismo 380RS Super Leggera for example, and it's a whole different story. This car features a completely redesigned body kit for significant aerodynamic improvements and weight reduction which you couldn't achieve with a typical 350Z or 370Z in GT5. Not to mention the numerous other upgrades to the engine and drivetrain.
That's why cars like the Amuse Nismo are banned, and cars like the Evo TM version and BMW Concept Series 1 are allowed - since they're mostly cosmetic changes.
Agreed. And you had the good sense to tell us you got fast lap times with it and wanted us to test it again to make sure nothing was wrong with it. I made the conclusion that there's nothing wrong with the car, you are just fast ToxaToxa said:there's nothing with my car, it's just a limited edition this car is not superior to other evo
Toxa said:there's nothing with my car, it's just a limited edition this car is not superior to other evo
Kaze13 said:UFRA, hate to do this but I may be switching to the Z34 instead of the Z33...lol. It's a toss up right now. Stability or faster lap times? Hm...
I think I know who tester 4 is...Angst said:Ok guys, Ive made a spreadsheet listing all the cars weve tested so far. Red means the car is banned, green means its allowed and yellow means that the car needs to be tested/is currently in testing/needs to be re-tested. The spreadsheet will keep being updated.
One thing to keep in mind, this method WILL NOT be 100% fool proof. But all the races in practices weve done so far were balanced, and more importantly, great fun. I hope all this hard work will pay off, and that there wont be mass RAGE after Saturday's race.
CAR LIST
"I" above being our organizer.