GTA 6 Story Was Rejected Three Times, Causing Dan Houser to Step Down, It’s Claimed

Trilobit said:
Wow, thanks for the tip. I'd never heard of that series before now. Sounds very similar to what I described. Just wishlisted it, I think I'll need to find some Japanese whiskey before I start playing. 🥃
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the game itself kind of just devolves into more yakuza style gameplay.

but the Yagami detective agency and the premise is very much in line with what you mention. The detective aspects of the games can be fun though, especially with RGG ability to get silly, it make some sidequests pretty funny.
 
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clarky said:
Should have gone with a bent copper angle Vic Macky style. Would have been great playing both sides.

Imagine having a 5 star wanted level with the gangs chasing you down as bad lutenant
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Now I really want some developers out there to greenlight and ramp up development on a competent and charming AA OW crime-sim/GTA clone. Its a shame all those GTA clones went the way they did. Take2/Rockstar have basically no competition atm. A SR2-ish game, or some equivalent, could fill the void right now.
 
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Hypereides said:
Now I really want some out there to greenlight and ramp up development on a competent and charming AA OW crime-sim/GTA clone. Its a shame Saints row, True crime and Sleeping dogs went the way they did. Take2/Rockstar have basically no competition atm. A SR2-ish game, or some equivalent, could fill the void right now.
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Have you tried Minds Eye?
 
Hypereides said:
Not yet. Its still on the way. Its release date got been delayed over here possibly due to the ongoing controversy. The devs might be pushing to fix it as much possible as they can prior to launch.
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Was a mear jest my friend, best staying away from that title from most accounts. At least until a few patches anyway.
 
clarky said:
Was a mear jest my friend, best staying away from that title from most accounts. At least until a few patches anyway.
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I see. Well, I'm still keeping an open mind. I've read the controversies, but they don't deter me from checking it out for myself. I get most people may not want to do that though.
 
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Hypereides said:
Not yet. Its still on the way. Its release date got been delayed over here possibly due to the ongoing controversy. The devs might be pushing to fix it as much as possible as they can prior to launch.
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People keep talking like framerate is the only issue, but the real problem is there's barely a game underneath

There are no meaningful systems, no player agency, no combat depth, no progression to speak of, it's just a string of shallow, disconnected set pieces. It doesn't feel unfinished, it feels unimagined

A coat of polish isn't going to save something this fundamentally empty

Especially not these guys
 
I swear some people forget (or fail to acknowledge) that RDR2 is literally the biggest and most detailed game ever made. Yes EVER.

Despite how you "feel" about the game it doesn't change the fact that RDR2 is completely on a different level technically. Nobody in the industry can even keep up.
Hell, most never even matched the nuance and details shown in their early PS2 GTA games.

RDR2 was a massive undertaking, that is a whole generation of work. So when people question the gap between GTA V and VI, well, that's your answer. You might not like that answer or try to throw shade on RDR2, but nobody in the industry can do what Rockstar does.
 
"The grieving policewoman was replaced by an African-American man, a former soldier, released from prison and falling into the criminal underworld."
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Could it be that Lucia was a policewoman who went to prison and falls into Jason's criminal arms of love?
 
Yoda said:
Not really buying it. There's no way executives at Take Two would veto writing choices by the Houser brothers? Like who exactly at the Publisher has the creative authority to doubt the duo that made the best selling AAA video game in human history???
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Producers, that's who. People that like to buy their way into the creative process. GTA V already reeks of studio meddling, and now Jason looks like a Far Cry character is a bit obvious.
 
Tiago Rodrigues said:
Y'all live in a bubble. GTA V / Online alone made them more money than all previous GTA titles put together.

There's also the case where they have the best selling videogam that released in the PS era /GTAV) and the best selling game released in the PS4 era (RDR2). That will help their case.
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such is life, unfair much that those lazy bums can coast through it.
 
Yeah GTA VI releases 13 years after the previous one because they were redoing the script, GTA Online has nothing to do with that lol.
 
Yoda said:
Not really buying it. There's no way executives at Take Two would veto writing choices by the Houser brothers? Like who exactly at the Publisher has the creative authority to doubt the duo that made the best selling AAA video game in human history???
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You are joking right? You really think executives are just 'let them cook' on the franchise that basically underpins a $40 billion company?
 
peish said:
I still can't believe rockstar is one game per generation studio.

How do they even survive?
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That might be true, but look at it this way. GTA5 resold this gen plus money cards or whatever they're selling is still going for the online part. GTA6 coming that will sell for this gen ps5 and next gen on ps6 and RDR2 is without a doubt coming for ps5.

So they make 1 game , but sell 3 games per gen. 2 of them remasters. Oh I forgot about RDR1.
 
amigastar said:
But doesn't the story set the tone for the whole feeling and mission structure in the game especially considering there were 3 protagonists planned?
But yeah the city isn't affected by this.
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My theory is the City is the game and so you build it and then begin to build story elements around parts of it rather than the other way round. This way you don't fuck around with tech budget and system requirements as much.
 
I don't get why it would matter. I assume countless entertainment products had new scripts during development. Final product all that matters
 
None of these sound very good. It's a lot of ground already covered by Rockstar in some way or another. Detective thriller - LA Noire. Three protagonists and the story with the psycho - GTAV. African-American ex-army protag - Vice City Stories.

GTA6 isn't exactly original itself, being a modern day Bonnie & Clyde story. Rockstar always took a lot of inspiration from movies though (Vice City is basically Scarface), so modelling the story on a film with pre-established story beats means less chance to fuckup.

Off-topic but I should really check out that Scarface game, heard it was actually awesome.
 
peish said:
I still can't believe rockstar is one game per generation studio.

How do they even survive?
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Survive?

GTAV sells better than new releases almost a decade after its release. It's cumulative sales are at like 200m copies. There's literally no other game in history that sells so many copies and is so evergreen.

And all that ignores GTA Online which is one of the most successful GAAS games, essentially printing money for Rockstar.
 
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