Guardian source: "“They now have specific concrete... evidence of collusion"

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I take this crowd with a grain of salt, but they were buzzing about Michael Flynn seeking immunity for a couple weeks before it actually came out.

Yeah I really debated posting this. But that whole crowd is suddenly buzzing that something will happen soon and the NY AG will be throwing the RICO book at the whole lot of them(incl. Trump kids).

Giuliani definitely has some skeletons. He's represented Rosneft before.
 
Capital level offenses don't necessarily equate to a capital sentence.

More likely is a plea deal.

For trump it will be here's all the dirt, congress impeaches and convicts, Pence or ryan pardons him so we can all "move on."

Riots in the streets if that happens. Riots that would make the Arab Spring look like a Xbox launch day
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A majority of Republicans can only protect him for so long if the evidence is so overwhelming, as some think it is. The people wouldn't stand for it. Unless you think they're getting duped too.

Republican congress is actively covering up for him. They've voted what, 5 times now not to look at his taxes? Literally no reason to do that other than they're afraid of what they'll find, because I'm pretty certain what they'll find would be grounds for impeachment, regardless of whether there is currently hard evidence of collusion.

Whether or not there is enough evidence to charge Trump with treason is irrelevant. What really matters is that there is enough evidence to remove him and his cronies from office, and I am confident that there already is sufficient evidence to do that.....if the GOP wasn't actively getting in the way and putting party over country.
 
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Trump reverses Obama's policy of voluntarily disclosing who is visiting the WH — citing "grave national security risks and privacy concerns"

He's sneaking his girlfriend in at night, isn't he?

I think her name is Vladamira Putina.
 
I doubt they can link this to Trump himself. Nixon was caught on tapes right? I doubt even trump was that stupid.

But if he gets impeached then I doubt we will have President Pence, if they have shit on Trump, they have something on Pence.

We might be looking at President Ryan in a couple of years. 2020 should be a lock for him too.
 
I doubt they can link this to Trump himself. Nixon was caught on tapes right? I doubt even trump was that stupid.

But if he gets impeached then I doubt we will have President Pence, if they have shit on Trump, they have something on Pence.

We might be looking at President Ryan in a couple of years. 2020 should be a lock for him too.

Peepee tapes.
 
They would need jeff sessions to sign off on it, and it can only be done after impeachment.

I believe Only the sergeant at arms of the house of reps has the authority to arrest the president. (Might be the senate)

Why would they need Jeff after he recused himself. That'd be pretty backwards.
 
I doubt they can link this to Trump himself. Nixon was caught on tapes right? I doubt even trump was that stupid.

But if he gets impeached then I doubt we will have President Pence, if they have shit on Trump, they have something on Pence.

We might be looking at President Ryan in a couple of years. 2020 should be a lock for him too.

Nah. People are not having this "take away my healthcare" bs. Kansas may have been a loss but it showed that people are taking notice of the actions the GOP are taking against them.
 
Republican congress is actively covering up for him. They've voted what, 5 times now not to look at his taxes? Literally no reason to do that other than they're afraid of what they'll find, because I'm pretty certain what they'll find would be grounds for impeachment, regardless of whether there is currently hard evidence of collusion.

Whether or not there is enough evidence to charge Trump with treason is irrelevant. What really matters is that there is enough evidence to remove him and his cronies from office, and I am confident that there already is sufficient evidence to do that.....if the GOP wasn't actively getting in the way and putting party over country.

Republicans are covering for him because his popularity got them the WH and he's willing to sign their BS bills.

Him backing off on NATO etc. and now dropping bombs to get his popularity up is a sign.

As his popularity drops and he becomes more and more of a liability to them there will be a tipping point where they will need to cut ties to avoid getting dragged down with him. Democrats hopefully winning a special election or two will scare them even more that they will get killed in 2018 riding the Trump train.
 
We might be looking at President Ryan in a couple of years. 2020 should be a lock for him too.

lol in what world do you live? People hate Ryan.

Poll said:
This issue has made Paul Ryan into the most unpopular politician in the country. At the start of the Trump administration he had a 33% approval rating, with 43% of voters disapproving of him. Now his approval has plunged to 21%, with his disapproval spiking all the way up to 61%.
 
Republicans are covering for him because his popularity got them the WH and he's willing to sign their BS bills.

Him backing off on NATO etc. and now dropping bombs to get his popularity up is a sign.

As his popularity drops and he becomes more and more of a liability to them there will be a tipping point where they will need to cut ties to avoid getting dragged down with him. Democrats hopefully winning a special election or two will scare them even more that they will get killed in 2018 riding the Trump train.
I can't imagine the GOP will continue to block for him if they get hit hard in 2018. I'm crossing fingers this goes even farther and ends up crippling the party for a decade.
 
People underrate venom in America.

The real question is this: how many Americans will believe it's all an illuminati conspiracy when all is said and done?
 
I doubt they can link this to Trump himself. Nixon was caught on tapes right? I doubt even trump was that stupid.

But if he gets impeached then I doubt we will have President Pence, if they have shit on Trump, they have something on Pence.

We might be looking at President Ryan in a couple of years. 2020 should be a lock for him too.

1) Trump is really stupid.
2) If somehow Ryan were to end up replacing Trump his chances of re-election would be terrible. A president getting forced out would damage the entire party's approval for several years.

In a world where Trump is president despite an unfavorable rating hovering in the mid 60s through out the campaign season and on election day.

Electoral college + Russian propaganda = win.
 
I'll believe it when I see it. It's better to focus on making his policies unpopular than hoping a silver Russian bullet is going to save us.
 
I'll believe it when I see it. It's better to focus on making his policies unpopular than hoping a silver Russian bullet is going to save us.

I don't disagree with you. The good news is Dems are kicking butt in local elections, making double-digit gains in popular vote in special elections, and town halls are rattling Republican officeholders on top of all this. Also gerrymandering is looking fragile right now, ACA popularity is rising, et al.
 
In a world where Trump is president despite an unfavorable rating hovering in the mid 60s through out the campaign season and on election day.

I see your logic, but Trump and Ryan aren't remotely comparable in any way.

Trump could tap into resentment from rural voters, Ryan wants to build Rapture.
 
Republicans are covering for him because his popularity got them the WH and he's willing to sign their BS bills.

Him backing off on NATO etc. and now dropping bombs to get his popularity up is a sign.

As his popularity drops and he becomes more and more of a liability to them there will be a tipping point where they will need to cut ties to avoid getting dragged down with him. Democrats hopefully winning a special election or two will scare them even more that they will get killed in 2018 riding the Trump train.

That is my hope as well, but barring some change of heart from the GOP, my hope is that Dems can retake the House in 2018, as they can cause a lot of damage for Trump & Co with the majority.
 
I'll believe it when I see it. It's better to focus on making his policies unpopular than hoping a silver Russian bullet is going to save us.

at this point i'm convinced nothing will ever come of this stuff


This is exhausting. If comey showed up and said the investigation has concluded and we have them bang to rights, there would still be months of process and multiple trials. The investigation has already tainted this presidency as a historical outrage no matter what happens next.

There are no silver bullets, just 1000 cuts.
 
Whether Trump gets impeached or just flat out looses in 2020 every headline in America will be "America to Trump: You're Fired!". I guess in this weird alternative dimension I'm stuck in this was always going to happen.
 
Whether Trump gets impeached or just flat out looses in 2020 every headline in America will be "America to Trump: You're Fired!". I guess in this weird alternative dimension I'm stuck in this was always going to happen.

"No one knew it would be this hard" would also be a good one
 
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Stay on target... STAY ON TARGET!
 
By that I mean they're not going to get sent to some kind of Miami supermax to do hard time, have to fight for who gets top bunk, then having to go rounds with everyone in their shared cell to see if they've got heart.

Or like something from the show Oz.

If it would be like any of the above then, sure, send them to prison. Otherwise bring on the guillotine!

You've... never seen the inside of a US prison, have you?
 
That is my hope as well, but barring some change of heart from the GOP, my hope is that Dems can retake the House in 2018, as they can cause a lot of damage for Trump & Co with the majority.
It's very unlikely they pick up an additional 24 seats :-/
 
This is exhausting. If comey showed up and said the investigation has concluded and we have them bang to rights, there would still be months of process and multiple trials. The investigation has already tainted this presidency as a historical outrage no matter what happens next.

There are no silver bullets, just 1000 cuts.

HEY FRANK

I don't disagree, but the energy behind the Russia investigation is better used elsewhere. We can't make it happen any faster. We have zero control over what happens next. But you can show up to a townhall, write your rep, and contribute money to candidates.
 
HEY FRANK

I don't disagree, but the energy behind the Russia investigation is better used elsewhere. We can't make it happen any faster. We have zero control over what happens next. But you can show up to a townhall, write your rep, and contribute money to candidates.

???

If there was collusion what the hell else could be more important? This IS where the resources should be.
 
It's very unlikely they pick up an additional 24 seats :-/

No doubt....but at least it's possible, unlike retaking the Senate in 2018. At this point it's the only hope I have for keeping this administration in check and holding them accountable. I have no faith in the GOP to do shit, no matter how bad it gets.
 
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