What's your source? I'd love some more info on the subject.
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What's your source? I'd love some more info on the subject.
Okay now I feel like I'm back to square one. Doesn't your order put the level 30 with 30 gear as weaker than the level 20 with 20 gear?
I have no source whatsoever and I don't know where this info originated, I'm piecing it together from the eternal carousel that is the last few pages just like you're trying to do right now; the difference between littlegator and I is that I support it working the way he claims it works (though I have no idea what kind of impact we're actually discussing in practice at all).
Littlegator
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Sorry, I meant strongest to weakest.
thetrin
Hail, peons, for I have come as ambassador from the great and bountiful Blueberry Butt Explosion
Both? There are three.
I have a "Jack of all trades" trait build and it hasn't been a problem in a single instance so far and I've done 3. In story mode, yes, but my build still felt viable.
So let's say I level up in the middle of an instance run while being downleveled, I would actually be weaker than before because my gear would scale down? That sounds like an incredibly poorly designed system.
thetrin
Hail, peons, for I have come as ambassador from the great and bountiful Blueberry Butt Explosion
Your complaining that you specialize? Seriously?
Theres a 35-45 and a 45-55 arent there? Either way I already 100%ed Harathi and I find that zones are ususlly good for about 6 levels, not 10
thetrin
Hail, peons, for I have come as ambassador from the great and bountiful Blueberry Butt Explosion
And two 40-50 zones.
Dredgehaunt Hills and Blazeridge Steppes are both 40-50.
There are plenty of places to go at your level.
He did claim that, and kayos said that the stat checks involve with very tiny numbers would indicate that but I very much kind of don't buy it at all. I mean... I leveled from 38-39 in AC wearing ~30 gear and I surely did not get weaker in the process. *shrrrrruuuugg*
Oh yeah I know, those are the zones Im not really feeling
I've got the login error a few minutes ago and now it's "Connection failed, try again".
thetrin
Hail, peons, for I have come as ambassador from the great and bountiful Blueberry Butt Explosion
I thought they were fun, but fair enough. Blazeridge especially is awesome. I guess I really enjoyed fighting the Branded.
Do the later dungeons get harder? aC was hard, CM was easy, and TA was easier than AC.
So far I really like the dungeons.
The workaround is "everyone does their job and pays attention."
I'm getting it too, was worried that my account was hacked since I can't log in to the account management either.
Littlegator
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It's hard to say for sure that you'll actually do less damage, depending on how other things scale, like traits and whatnot.
You sword WILL contribute less damage, though.
Cooking is the cheapest. All of them should be easy if you have the mats though
What level are you?
samesies
IMO, AC was hard, CM was easy, didn't do TA, and SE was frustrating.
So what is a Guardian's job supposed to be? Maybe it's just me, but 2 dodges, 4 blocks, and 2 blinds doesn't prevent me from melting to the first mob of SE story mode. Also, the second Golem on SE (the one with all the burns) makes it impossible to get close and do anything with a Guardian so I had to hide behind the fence and poke with my staff.
Maybe I'll just start working on my engineer.
PvE. I don't play PvP.
Right when I was going to let the girlfriend play too!
Shrennin
Didn't get the memo regarding the 14th Amendment
You are hilarious and awesome
Yeah, it's a shame that the boss got bugged out like that for you. Ordinarily, it just puts up invulnerability while teleporting to the center & three corners of the room. Something must have interrupted its behavior while trying to do that, hence the buff of eternity.
Shrennin
Didn't get the memo regarding the 14th Amendment
Yep. Log in works now. I did get the connection errors, but now it seems fixed. ANet on the ball!
Pretty much
That happened to me. If you walk out of the room and in again the guy resets and I'm sure you would've kill it well before an hour had passed, lol
Honestly, I only liked CM because of how smooth my runs in it have been. Maybe I just happened to have a good party or something, but both AC and SE often resulted in my group throwing bodies at bosses, die, respawn, and throw more bodies. Does not make for fun gameplay. Also, dying without know what happened is also frustrating.
Maybe it's just me not knowing how to play my Guardian in a dungeon/team environment.
Everything just seems reaaaaally difficult for the level, and this is just story mode.
SE does have this though: spoiler image for final boss of SE
Gonna link my post since I believe you missed it, from couple pages ago:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=41794968&postcount=15027
And to address your current arguments - yeah, the fact that leveling up in a dungeon makes you actually weaker is a little bit unfortunate, but ultimately, the change isn't really significant if it's even true. Definitely worth testing.
But the situation where you gain levels by crafting is different. It makes you stronger in the areas for your current level, it makes it easier to find gear that will make you even stronger... The way zones are designed there are at least a few where you'll be stronger. And if you want to be strong in the lower level zones just upgrade your gear.
Sure, it would be nice if every single level and every single better piece of equipment made you stronger everywhere, but that's simply not possible, for the reasons I have outlined in the linked post.
Your concerns are 100% valid and I honestly can see how they can be a bit irritating, but that's all they are - with the gear being as easy to upgrade as it is, it really is just a matter of buying some temporary upgrades and voila, you're stronger. All you have to do is spend some silver along the levels you've gained and you get stroner in all the zones. And it's the price you pay for the fact that every single zone is a viable place to play at the max level.
Your bolded is already solved. You level up in a dungeon. The sword is weaker. But it's not a significant impact.
You gain 10 levels. This is now significant, since you could have regeared once or twice in that time frame. You have the trading post. You can run around and kill a bunch of random enemies. You can even go into the dungeon and get gear from that. You may even get better gear, making you stronger mid-dungeon.
You're right, it should not have a significant impact in a dungeon. And it does not. And it's a system that isn't 100% perfect but solves many of the problems across using a scaling system in both PvE and WvW. That's what makes it good game design.
PenguinPoacher
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Anyone have a website that has different spvp builds? Mostly looking at ranger now.
Roles are the same thing as classes. If you need a soaker, support and damage dealer - there's the roles - there's the trinity, but in a different form.
Getting rid of the trinity means nobody should ever need to spec one way or another but youre saying that's not the case - meaning ANet hasn't suceeded. The main difference is that instead of having a clearly defined roll - support and mitigation are an aside to dealing damage. That's not getting rid of the trinity, that's toning it down - it still exists in some form.
I'm not saying its bad - I'm saying that the idea that youre not forced into specific builds to succeed isnt clearly evident - as I found myself respeccing after my first dungeon run. Bring any class still, apparently, doesn't mean bring any spec.
In this regard I think 5-mans are too large to ditch this trinity effort. Maybe 3-man design can do it - but not 5.
If you are respeccing for a dungeon or even swapping traits for a single encounter - the idea of "bring any class" doesn't mean jack shit. It still boils down to the same MMO mumbo jumbo of "lol you aren't 3/3 in X talent? But we need that for this fight!" BS I grew tired of in other MMOs.
This is one of the reasons I dislike trait/talent systems - if I want to be successful at X I need to soec into Y.
Can't I just be successful with my own skill at playing the game? I suppose that would dumb-down encounters but games like the Souls series show that's not the case and can be done with a degree of difficulty without having to change how you want to play. Brings me right back to 3 mans... hell i'd even love to see 2-man content.
Play how you want, mirite?
This is pretty much why I keep hearing complaints about the bosses being simple. Make them a little difficult, and people start going into roles to solve the problem. Make them too simple, and you can bring whatever you want into the dungeon but then people start complaining that the bosses are too simple/easy.
What does seem to work is having some form of "jack of all trades" in your build. Having roots/immobilizes/stuns for mitigation and control, your own way to deal a respectable amount of damage, and some way to add boons or do condition removal for support, are all necessary. There are very few builds that can do just one. I keep running into people that want to 100% their builds in one direction, essentially specializing into a role which causes problems with other people who aren't in lockstep with them.
My current theory is that specializing will get you killed unless you're all specializing, and then you should probably just play sPvP. Otherwise playing in a way that allows you to just switch a weapon or a utility for the situation is something that works in general PvE as well as it does in dungeons.
But, I need to play more.
sPvP is a different beast, and when it comes to just pick up games you still can play what you like. People here are asking for guidance anyway instead of searching things out themselves. It's a similar problem to people sucking at dungeons.
nicoga3000
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Can we talk about Caudecus's Manor Explore? What the FUCK?
TomcatTheLion
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So we can't sell or salvage certain items. Is the only way to get rid of them is to sell them then?
Wait...seriously?
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