Jest Chillin
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Yeah, see I've only seen the count and call outs in mainflow on SBI. And before the nerf even some of the mainflow attempts failed to down the knights, though it wasn't horribly far off.
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I've seen some spectacularly bad Knight fights too. Less than 10 people fighting the knight and half of them dying over and over. Painful to watch/participate, even for fun.
shysaursoft
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Just got Knights in a late overflow. Green had nobody, red had 30, blue had 24 or so. Once red and green died about the same time with 6 mins left on the clock, groups from both went to green (which had gathered about 5 by then and was at 75% anyway somehow), and managed to complete both it, and Holo after.
One platform didn't complete Holo however, due to only being 10 or so on the platform, but the other two platforms did complete.
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One platform didn't complete Holo however, due to only being 10 or so on the platform, but the other two platforms did complete.
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Kos Luftar
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SBI trying WURM tonight.
At 8pm server time. Meet in Bloodtide Coast at 7pm (45 minutes from now). Get on TS. Look at guild message for TS info.
At 8pm server time. Meet in Bloodtide Coast at 7pm (45 minutes from now). Get on TS. Look at guild message for TS info.
shysaursoft
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Here's a question: why don't more Charr use this racial skill.
This guy. Battle Roar.
Utility slot, instacast:
Everyone around you gets two stacks of Might for 15 seconds, Fury for 6 seconds, and the range is 1200 (which is rather generous). Only a 35 second cooldown, which is very short, usable at least twice in most easy fights. It really should count as a Shout on Warriors though, but whatever.
Tool belt skill
Long recharge of 50 seconds, but a range of 1200 and grants Vigor to everyone in earshot for 10 seconds, AND removes Weakness and Vulnerability from everyone around you. Vigor isn't that great of a boon, but 100% endurance regeneration does add up to another dodge rather quickly.
If a party of five Charr walk into a room, all slot the skill, they can run into any battle with an instant 10 Might, which will obviously be boosted with fire field combos as the fight progresses, but it removes the need for firefield blasting before each encounter. You'd think more Charr would use this skill, and yet - I've almost never seen another Char slot it during dungeons or fractals, not even for specific fights. Am I just missing something?
Something I'd also really *really* like, is to see an arc drawn over everything for grenade throws (shown only when holding key down, etc), and circles for impact zone drawn *over* things.
Bad artist rendition:
This guy. Battle Roar.
Utility slot, instacast:
Everyone around you gets two stacks of Might for 15 seconds, Fury for 6 seconds, and the range is 1200 (which is rather generous). Only a 35 second cooldown, which is very short, usable at least twice in most easy fights. It really should count as a Shout on Warriors though, but whatever.
Tool belt skill
Long recharge of 50 seconds, but a range of 1200 and grants Vigor to everyone in earshot for 10 seconds, AND removes Weakness and Vulnerability from everyone around you. Vigor isn't that great of a boon, but 100% endurance regeneration does add up to another dodge rather quickly.
If a party of five Charr walk into a room, all slot the skill, they can run into any battle with an instant 10 Might, which will obviously be boosted with fire field combos as the fight progresses, but it removes the need for firefield blasting before each encounter. You'd think more Charr would use this skill, and yet - I've almost never seen another Char slot it during dungeons or fractals, not even for specific fights. Am I just missing something?
Something I'd also really *really* like, is to see an arc drawn over everything for grenade throws (shown only when holding key down, etc), and circles for impact zone drawn *over* things.
Bad artist rendition:
LiveSpartan235
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Devon Carver on the WvW CDI
https://forum-en.guildwars2.com/for...elopment-Edge-of-the-Mists/page/9#post3748611
Some of the upates notes for March 18th
https://forum-en.guildwars2.com/forum/pvp/pvp/March-18th-Glory-change-FAQ/first#post3750032
Mesmer Bug fixes coming in the feature build
https://forum-en.guildwars2.com/for...Bugged-Skills-and-Counting/page/3#post3750901
https://forum-en.guildwars2.com/for...elopment-Edge-of-the-Mists/page/9#post3748611
Some of the upates notes for March 18th
https://forum-en.guildwars2.com/forum/pvp/pvp/March-18th-Glory-change-FAQ/first#post3750032
Mesmer Bug fixes coming in the feature build
https://forum-en.guildwars2.com/for...Bugged-Skills-and-Counting/page/3#post3750901
1. Fixed
2. Fixed feature build
3. Complicated, technically terrain related bugs. All classes have this issue to some extent.
4. Working as intended. Good topic for debate on changing in the future.
5. Deceptive evasion clones attack closest target, otherwise no repro.
6. Fixed some while after feature build “logged”
7. Fixed feature build
8. Intended, same reason as los…Counter-play.
9. Intended, follows standardized shadowstepping rules. No repro otherwise.
10. Fixed some while after feature build “logged”
11. Fixed some while after feature build “logged”
12. Intended. Those skills bounce to allies and only grant the POSITIVE effects “boons” its not attached to reflect. (Trick: use your reflect to grant extra bounces)
13. Fixed in feature build
14. Server-side, can’t fix at this time. “Lag related” Blame living world updates
15. Intended. This is how projectile/missile “tracking” works.
16. Fixed
17. Intended. All ranged and melee skills have a 15% buffer range to take account for tracking.
18. Fixed on feature build if not on live.
19/20 Intended. Shouldn’t be able to utilize both at the same time.
21. Globally intended. Buffer range.
22. Intended. Current trait system swaps to different versions of skills from traits, which can trigger weird recharge issues. Such as that one with glamour CD. I wanna say that bug is fixed in the feature build but it’s a weird repro.
23. Fixed some while after feature build “logged”
24. Some issues regarding this fixed in feature build
25. Intended
26. Fixed in feature build
27. Fixed in feature build
Hope that helps
Nemesis121
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If I was in charge of this game, the expansion wouldn't be Cantha, I would change how the Guildwars universe works, Elona would expansion, for GW3 I would go to Cantha and ignore Tyria altogether, and create another continent not to far away from Cantha this would be my expansion for Cantha...
Ferny was up late last night working on the registration process. We had 500+ moderation notices over the weekend, which nobody would have seen since the software catches it, but while I was clearing out all these spambot accounts Friday there were 9 more registering. It would have been a losing battle if we didn't do something to stop that. And by we, I mean Ferny, who's been generous as hell with his time considering he hasn't played GW2 in a while.
Sanctum Sprint, which you love.
Bar Brawl or whatever it's called, which I literally had a friend log in to only play that minigame for a month.
Snowball fights, which actually caused me to complete the Daily Activity achievement every once in a while.
Reaper's Rumble, which I dearly want to see come back.
That's half of all the minigames they've put out and those happen to be the ones where I know actual people that enjoy them. If they ever even considered not making anymore minigames we'd have a fight.
Here's a question: why don't more Charr use this racial skill.
This guy. Battle Roar.
Short answer, because gameplay wise it's a shout but mechanics wise it doesn't benefit from any shout synergies and way it's too similar to For Great Justice!
Something I should have posted in that thread about before, and in this thread too I guess, is that when I went and looked up ESO's open world PvP system I learned about their Scroll system. Scrolls are taken from enemy keeps/castles and brought to your own keeps/castles.
When I think about why the camps, towers, and keeps in the Borderlands aren't strategically useful, it's because they're almost all set up to siege nearby areas that would hold orbs of power. But we don't have those anymore. So now the map design doesn't make as much sense anymore.
Also, you posted the wrong link for the Mesmer changes.
Edit: Found the right link for the Mesmer changes: https://forum-en.guildwars2.com/for...Bugged-Skills-and-Counting/page/3#post3750901
Be sure to look at the first couple of posts in the thread to compare.
Nemesis121
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I had 402 gems, traded 115 gold for 1399gems my friend wants to leave Yaks Bend it's not a dead server but sheeeesh they suck, heading to Tarnish Coast, I left my guild 5 months ago once i switch, won't be a Ronin for long..
Without a larger map, or some element that brings an opportunity cost into play, I don't feel WvWvW will ever be enjoyable on a tactical level. The fact that a map blob is mobile enough to reach any point on the map in under 2 minutes is utter garbage, since you can't outplay and catch an enemy keep off guard with anything short of an armada of omega golems. I hope they figure out a solution to the problem, it's just a shame the most obvious one is considered impossible.
Noisy Ninj4
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You could introduce a slowing mechanic to make zergs less mobile. Maybe a .6% speed debuff for every allied player nearby beyond 4 (up to 33%). It would make havoc groups relatively mobile and smaller blobs could outrun and major zergs.
Without a larger map, or some element that brings an opportunity cost into play, I don't feel WvWvW will ever be enjoyable on a tactical level. The fact that a map blob is mobile enough to reach any point on the map in under 2 minutes is utter garbage, since you can't outplay and catch an enemy keep off guard with anything short of an armada of omega golems. I hope they figure out a solution to the problem, it's just a shame the most obvious one is considered impossible.
This would also put more onus on commanders to organize their blobs.
What I really wish we could have is collision back. It was an integral part of playing gw1 in pve and pvp. Imagine wvw with collision, where you couldn't stack and people could block corridors with their body. People would get in each others way and any melee could become an inescapable deathtrap for squishy characters.
Collision would be god tier for formations, though admittedly it would result in a drop in performance in a game that already suffers from performance issues.
edit: Also a movement debuff would technically help, but at the same time you'd have players moving like snails across a small map, which doesn't sound all that fun from a gameplay perspective. With a larger map, you'd at least have the opportunity to add additional objectives and chokepoints along the way so it doesn't feel barren. The only thing I can really think of is to implement a greater degree of verticality so they can utilize more of the space they already have. Underground dredge strongholds and flying fortresses like the Wizard's Tower in GW1 would be good examples of this.
Jest Chillin
Member
Collions in Warhammer were nice in theory but turned every single seige into a slideshow. Collisions also inevitably force most of the fights to happen inside castles since you can't really choke open ground. It also wouldn't work as well in GW2 since there are no dedicated heals to keep any kind of shield wall up.
There are other ways to cause opportunity costs without some kind of overreaching penalty. I mean you can:
1. Lower the population cap per map.
2. Increase the strength of defensive siege.
3. Restructure the current maps.
4. Change the respawn, resurrection, and/or rallying mechanics.
One thing I do dislike is the tactic of golem rushing. The nuclear option should be a spread of trebs used to either force an open field fight or allow the use of other siege to back them up. More trench warfare, basically.
The other issue, which some people hated in Edge of the Mists, is that you need extremely dangerous flank routes in order to keep zergs away from them. You need them to force the larger armor through the bigger chokepoints that make them easier to scout and manage. In EotM, this usually meant that the flank routes came with a risk of falling to your death (forced respawn). The zergs would then most often run through the middle of the map, where it ended up being easy to run and hide from them thanks to the terrain and would lead them into chokepoints and destructible bridges as they moved to another objective. If they managed to get out through the south or north, you'd force them into an open field fight where you'd have the home field advantage. And of course the longer travel times due to fewer waypoints does have quite the effect on gameplay. I also need to note the fact that the walls of keeps and towers are built more intelligently considering the ability of GW2 players to attack up the wall.
Still, this is my anecdotal point of view. And what might be balanced or necessary for a certain design can seem unfun to many. ANet also has some good map designers but not what I would call great map designers, so there's room for improvement in that front as well.
1. Lower the population cap per map.
2. Increase the strength of defensive siege.
3. Restructure the current maps.
4. Change the respawn, resurrection, and/or rallying mechanics.
One thing I do dislike is the tactic of golem rushing. The nuclear option should be a spread of trebs used to either force an open field fight or allow the use of other siege to back them up. More trench warfare, basically.
The other issue, which some people hated in Edge of the Mists, is that you need extremely dangerous flank routes in order to keep zergs away from them. You need them to force the larger armor through the bigger chokepoints that make them easier to scout and manage. In EotM, this usually meant that the flank routes came with a risk of falling to your death (forced respawn). The zergs would then most often run through the middle of the map, where it ended up being easy to run and hide from them thanks to the terrain and would lead them into chokepoints and destructible bridges as they moved to another objective. If they managed to get out through the south or north, you'd force them into an open field fight where you'd have the home field advantage. And of course the longer travel times due to fewer waypoints does have quite the effect on gameplay. I also need to note the fact that the walls of keeps and towers are built more intelligently considering the ability of GW2 players to attack up the wall.
Still, this is my anecdotal point of view. And what might be balanced or necessary for a certain design can seem unfun to many. ANet also has some good map designers but not what I would call great map designers, so there's room for improvement in that front as well.
Without a larger map, or some element that brings an opportunity cost into play, I don't feel WvWvW will ever be enjoyable on a tactical level. The fact that a map blob is mobile enough to reach any point on the map in under 2 minutes is utter garbage, since you can't outplay and catch an enemy keep off guard with anything short of an armada of omega golems. I hope they figure out a solution to the problem, it's just a shame the most obvious one is considered impossible.
One of the things that's really interesting in Edge of the Mists are the destructible bridges, and I could see a mechanism like that being brought into WvW proper. For example, what if there were various spots around the existing WvW maps where players could drop supply to create full-sized walls that aren't part of a fortification and don't appear on the map. Imagine a zerg pouring into a narrow pass only to find the end is bottled up with a barrier? That would effectively slow down the zerg, put more emphasis on scouting and supply (since there are now supply sinks all over the map), and allow for ambush tactics (imagine the scenario above but with trebs aimed down that pass?).
There could be other structures as well;
- Large minefields that can be triggered or cleared if you dump supply into them. Walking through them could use a mechanic similar to the Synergetic Hologram, where players randomly get an explosive debuff that hits everyone around them.
- Small sections with lots of barriers and pillars that have to be jumped over and through (sort of like really tiny JPs) to make zergs slow down to cross them.
- You could dump more supply in to those little JP sections to spawn cripple traps in the area as well.
- Spots where you can build a structure with NPC guards, like a checkpoint or something. NPCs with lots of control abilities and such that make it hard to just run past.
- Some kind of massive gatehouse with a door that can't be broken, but instead requires a key carried by a nearby NPC (So you can't just use siege to get through, you have to fight).
- Auto Defense turrets. That's all I need to say, right?
Hell, you could even have spots on the map where you use supply to dig down, creating tunnels into forts or past choke points like a sapper. Combined with your idea of underground sections, there could be an entire strategy that neutralizes siege by letting groups dig passages connecting caverns (and the opposite strategy, using supply to fill them back up).
Basically anything to make moving around in WvW as a large group harder, or at least a more difficult prospect. Really solid map design would be required so you could fortify routes, but not completely block them all up, and always allow alternative ways if the enemy is coordinated to do so (i.e. digging under an area loaded with structures and traps instead of going through it). You could even have 'counters' to all of those things above. For example, the minefields could be cleared quickly if you give a Skritt NPC enough shiny supply to send his troops out to clear the area quickly (but it would involve an escort and possibly show up on the enemy's map, unlike just using supply to slowly clear it yourself). More options and more risk / reward-type choices.
Jest Chillin
Member
What I find intriguing about the idea of building walls in the world with supply.. is if a smaller/weaker server could scout effectively enough, they could (in theory) wall off paths to force the two larger servers zergs to path into each other. Which, quite frankly, would be amazing tactical manipulation.
Bl4ckSunsh1n3
Member
That's been my experience as well. Overflow is not the place to go...for this event anyways.
Those are the two games I play the most right now.
Exactly, and I think this is something they might actually be working on because we also had the barrier-building element during the Marionette fight. Basically at points all over the map you'd have building sites just waiting for supply. Any team can use them, so imagine something like sending a havoc squad behind the enemy's lines to build walls that limit mobility in their own territory. You could even effectively use it to keep a dangerous enemy bottled up or slow their advance.
Basically, the supply mechanic should be for more than just siege and repairs. Dump a ton of cool stuff in WvW and suddenly the tactics shift; do you just run up and ram down that door like always, or do you throw up a ton of barriers first to cover your flank? Pay to set up a minefield (I like the idea of hiring Skritt to lay mines and having the enemy have to bribe them with supply to clear them) or hope you can take a position before the enemy is behind you?
Hell, EotM already has crazy stuff like Airships, what if there was a way to dump supply into an airfield which sells a special kind of siege engine that, when built, calls in an airstrike? Or lets people instantly teleport from the airfield to the beacon ala Paratroopers? You could wander up to an enemy's fort with a havoc squad, drop the beacon and suddenly spawn a zerg on top of you, right under the enemy's nose. Which could lead to people playing more defensively for objectives like the airfield, or even spending time and supply to set up anti-aircraft defenses at fortresses and stuff.
Just throwing ideas out there, I know a ton of that is ridiculously overpowered.
Edvardelis
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Kos Luftar
Member
Anyone heard anything about a trailer being released today for the March 18th update?
You got sucked back into D3 too huh?
That would be news to me, usually that stuff comes out on Tuesdays.
Bl4ckSunsh1n3
Member
I did. The new loot update did wonders for my enjoyment of the game. So much so that I bought Reaper of Souls. I was on the fence about it pre-update.
Kos Luftar
Member
I'm losing my mind. I thought it was Tuesday.
To be fair, you were stuck in a time loop.
Nemesis121
Member
I won't be switching to TC now hahahahahahah the server is full my fucking luck..
hahahahahahah the server is full my fucking luck..LiveSpartan235
Neo Member
Why would they have a trailer its just the epilogue its just probably gonna be a few lines of dialogue telling you what the Biconics are doing after Scarlet's deafeat. March 18th isn't even a proper LS update its the Maintenance build as ArenaNet ahve called it.
It doesn't take THAT many anymore these days. She used to not scale correctly and the fight would go down to the wire even with a large force, but they fixed her a few weeks back. When she's up, I'll always hit her after reset and it takes us maybe 5 minutes to kill her.
I won't be switching to TC now
What server are you on currently? Are you on YB with your friend? Could always come to SBI
Nemesis121
Member
What server are you on currently? Are you on YB with your friend? Could always come to SBI
Moving to TC for WvW, and Retro said SBI WvW community is on a second decline since the game launch, not sure i want to go to a server on the decline, YB WvW is pure shit right now, before season one they were good, we have a ton of guilds leave and every day i keep hearing about other guilds leaving..
LiveSpartan235
Neo Member
A new location has been added to the atlas with a screenshot
http://atlas.guildwars2.com/en/#/map/coord/16287.353,15091.496
http://atlas.guildwars2.com/en/#/map/coord/16287.353,15091.496
Kos Luftar
Member
Can you post the location and image please?
Nvm.
Nvm.
Wait until late at night (assuming your in NA) and then check the server capacity. I'm sure you can sneak into TC still as they are just recently full.
Alternatively:
If you're more of a casual player that likes to run with pugs - Sea of Sorrows or Dragonbrand
If you're interested in GvG or like running in small coordinated guild groups - Fort Aspenwood or Maguuma
If you are a noob - SBI
LiveSpartan235
Neo Member
If you look at the Book icon it shows that there are 8(9 in total) other stuff that are still locked but I don't think this screenshot was to suppose to go live today hence why when you find this screenshot it isn't unlocked your discoveries book.
The fights themselves are really well done, and I love the atmosphere in LA (you can enter whenever you like now and log out and in there, but it's a very hostile, dangerous and lucrative zone). The final cutscene is perhaps the best-produced so far, and I'm very glad that
I was lucky enough not to run into bugs even my first time trying the content, but some have been totally crippled by them and a number of hotfixes were required. The "starting" event required too many people to feasibly get done every time and had to be nerfed a little bit.
There's not a huge chunk of content, but it's good, and focused. Playing just a little bit every night, I've had a blast with it.
Scarlet is for real deadsies and we have a new Big Bad for season 2.
I was lucky enough not to run into bugs even my first time trying the content, but some have been totally crippled by them and a number of hotfixes were required. The "starting" event required too many people to feasibly get done every time and had to be nerfed a little bit.
There's not a huge chunk of content, but it's good, and focused. Playing just a little bit every night, I've had a blast with it.
Can you post the location and image please?
Nvm.
It was apparently removed, but Reddit saved it;
Lulz.
Some missteps early on, but it's in good shape now. I would say it's one of their better updates, but no where near their best. I mean, we're not talking Dragon Bash here, but I'm quite comfortable putting both phases of the LA update in with the Nightmare Tower and Flame and Frost chapters.
(As an aside, I toyed with the idea of a "Rank the Updates!" type post, but then I realized there were twenty-five of them, thus turning the thread into a collection of huge lists).
I've done the whole process of knights / Scarlet maybe 10 times or so, it's a pretty fun fight to be honest, as long as people aren't stupid (was in one last night where one pack of morons all tried to zerg down Green instead of slowing down when needed and triggered the multi-hologram phase, but we ended up beating it with time to spare anyways).
Seeing a major MMO developer burn their central hub to the ground was worth the price of any headaches, especially when it is done so well and in such a way that it is obviously not going to be reverted right back any time soon.
shysaursoft
Member
Hold up. The Sylvari (the ones walking around, I'm guessing) only appeared on Tyria 25 years (now 26) years ago? And nobody in Tyria finds that... worrying? A civilization of creatures barely 30, nevermind they "share" knowledge when they "return to the dream", which I'm assuming is when they die? Or do they have a resync systems?
Yes, I just rolled my first Sylvari, and I can't help but find the race... really evil-sounding
I know that while in the Dream, they learn from a ghost of Ventari, or a representation of his teachings anyway, but that's hardly much comfort.
Yes, I just rolled my first Sylvari, and I can't help but find the race... really evil-sounding
I know that while in the Dream, they learn from a ghost of Ventari, or a representation of his teachings anyway, but that's hardly much comfort.
I still think the Hologram fight is one of the best fights the game ever gave us.
And the music
/opens soundcloud
It's almost like they are Dragon minions!
(When a Sylvary dies, he shares his knowledge with future Sylvari)
And the music
/opens soundcloud
Hold up. The Sylvari (the ones walking around, I'm guessing) only appeared on Tyria 25 years (now 26) years ago? And nobody in Tyria finds that... worrying? A civilization of creatures barely 30, nevermind they "share" knowledge when they "return to the dream", which I'm assuming is when they die? Or do they have a resync systems?
Yes, I just rolled my first Sylvari, and I can't help but find the race... really evil-sounding
It's almost like they are Dragon minions!
(When a Sylvary dies, he shares his knowledge with future Sylvari)
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