Nah, it's like a 18+ value card in round 3.
Gwent - Open Beta Thread: Not bad, not bad at all
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Nah, it's like a 18+ value card in round 3.
Nilfgaard, Monsters, and Skellige in that order.
Very very rarely NR and if I see scoia, it's that dumb spell version that I can't figure out how people lose to it.
ThreePiMatt
Member
It's not really funny. The game is in open beta now and free for people to try. For people to come in and be greeted by cheap gimmick decks that you have zero interactivity with will turn people off from the game.
I didn't know dimeritium cards were "zero interactivity"
Less useful in round 3, as you need another monster card.
I very rarely go into the final round with Tibor as my only card so that's a moot point.
Warablo
Member
Just click it to at least get ranked so you can get rewards.
f2p people can't afford that deck and it's too hard for new people to play. So they shouldn't encounter it too much. Plus it will get nerfed in some way most likely soon before they get there.
Every deck they play against is cancer to them anyway because they lose. Just look at all the new people hating on everything meta.
Up to level 8, I just want to start ranked now. I'm getting matched with people who got top 1000 last season pretty regularly and I've even had two matches Vs someone with a 'cardsharp' title which is a rank 15 title apparently. I'm not even doing too bad, feels like it's around 50/50 in those matchups. There's only been one match where I've just been blown away and forfeited on round 1 because it felt like their deck was a complete hard counter, it was insane.
Anyway I'm enjoying it, I'd definitely tweak weather a bit so that it procs at the start of the casters turn instead so a player can react to it without taking damage. I like weather in general and it does set the game apart from others but it can get a bit shit to play against if it's just getting spammed.
Anyway I'm enjoying it, I'd definitely tweak weather a bit so that it procs at the start of the casters turn instead so a player can react to it without taking damage. I like weather in general and it does set the game apart from others but it can get a bit shit to play against if it's just getting spammed.
Played probably exactly against this one earlier. I think the only monster cards were roach and 3x the kind that gets boosted each time a special card is played + golds. He used two of them to win round 2 (barely) and the last one was enough for the final round.
waxinlyrical
Member
Lol I watched Swim play a bunch of his Nilfgaard Spell deck, and now I'm watching Vishra playing a Radovid Spell deck.
This meta of barely playing any units is... not exactly my favorite, to say the least.
This meta of barely playing any units is... not exactly my favorite, to say the least.
Warablo
Member
I don't know if it has been posted, but Xbox Live rewards is having a thing for Gwent. I won 2 kegs from it.
https://rewards.xbox.com/crack-the-keg-rewards/
https://rewards.xbox.com/crack-the-keg-rewards/
toastyToast
Member
Reveal is fun. Not nearly as powerful as the Calveit cycling going on but data you get is delicious.
Emissary pulling Novice is going away next hot fix.
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
I'm starting to get a real hang of this now that my deck is fleshed out more. I crafted cantarella today and switched from emhyr to calveit for the strong turn 1 tempo push of golems.
13-8 with my last 20 games, which is about the time I swapped out engineers for vicovaro medics but the calveit change is very recent.
Almost level 10 finally too.
You certain this is happening or are you speculating?
13-8 with my last 20 games, which is about the time I swapped out engineers for vicovaro medics but the calveit change is very recent.
Almost level 10 finally too.
You certain this is happening or are you speculating?
It's incredibly unhealthy for the game. Awful and unfun to play against even if you win and horribly boring for spectators on Twitch.
toastyToast
Member
I think it was mentioned on Reddit that the change was coming next patch but I can't confirm that atm
They're definitely gonna change it though
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
TheSadRanger
Banned
The matchmaking for casual could be a bit better...... I've seen some some pretty lopsided matches.
I'm lvl 19 and rank 8 and got paired against a lvl 10 rank 1 guy. I felt bad beating him :/ I kinda thought about throwing the game.
I'm lvl 19 and rank 8 and got paired against a lvl 10 rank 1 guy. I felt bad beating him :/ I kinda thought about throwing the game.
toastyToast
Member
There was a 10 special limit in the original Gwent. They should probably reintroduce it.
Casual isn't meant to be balanced. It probably does no matchmaking what so ever.
I forgot about this but yes, I agree.
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Tried some spellgard myself. It is definitely a meta changing deck but people are already teching heavily against it which is great because I went back to my standard deck and was smashing people because techs against that deck do nothing against my standard one.
Kayran consumes a card in-hand, basically trading two cards for one big body. It trades card advantage for tempo, which is a short-term gain, but long-term loss. The additional Consume effect trigger isn't really necessary in decks built around the mechanic. Other golds are definitely more useful than Kayran, even in Monster Consume decks.
Emissary into Novice doesn't even matter with the current incarnation of the Nilfgaard Calveit spy deck because it runs 0x Novices.
I really fail to see how having a control-type deck archetype succeed is unhealthy for the game. Successful diversity of decks and styles is good for the game. Removing whole archetypes/playstyles is what is unhealthy for the game; "unfun" doesn't exist in competitive/Ranked play.
BlackBuzzard
Banned
Dimeritium Bomb.
Just one answer? :/ Jesus, the luck.
This game is too much Nilf, Savage Bears and buffed dwarfs... I really hope they patch this up.
Edit: Just really salty right now. I can't progress in ranked because every single NF-deck has had either the horse-guy or Emissary-Novice-combo in it.
Dimeritium Shackles + Scorch / Mardroeme
Yea even when I was playing it early yesterday before swim started to stream it again (he played it day before and released the gwentdb deck day before as well) I already saw a few dbombs. But it usually doesn't matter that much and I still won.
But yea, deck is known now, my winrate today with it will most likely be a lot less than yesterday.
Peroroncino
Member
Iorveth has also some condescending tone. Something something you win with mind not power said the guy to me repeatedly, before wheather-spamming me to high heavens, turns out all it took was having 3 first lights and 2 standard-bearers [nilfgaard] and his 'deck' fell apart, and then in round 3 I greeted him with ragh nar roog [oh sweet sweet taste of revenge] and he rage quitted, not even a GG, after all that emoting about mind, I laughed my ass off and this match has made my night.
Wow, look at that pos that didn't GG a good match. He barely won by 2 points.
Edit: WTF is this crap. Why am I playing (as rank 9) against people with rank 11 and lvl 20+. No wonder that I keep losing + they always play Scoia/Nilf.
Aaaand I did my second forfeit in ranked right at the start of the game. Opponent was Nilfgaard and I drew crap. Not a single way to get Morkvarg, no Wild Boar, not a single gold card and not even bronze units that I could use for combo buffing. Hands like this against Nilfgaard? Why should I even try, lol.
Edit2: Holy moly, why is this game dead set on letting you play against opponents with two ranks higher than you.
Nilfgaard, Nilfgaard, Nilfgaard, Nilfgaard, Nilfgaard, Nilfgaard...
Edit2: Nilfgaard again, Lvl 23+ and Mercenary tag. Threw cow carcasses at me, four times, I was able to dodge around it with them never triggering. He playe Tibor as his last card in round 3. I expected it and played my last one, Dimeritium Bomb, and threw a "not bad, not bad at all" at him beforehand.
GG on both sides. It was a really good game.
Edit: WTF is this crap. Why am I playing (as rank 9) against people with rank 11 and lvl 20+. No wonder that I keep losing + they always play Scoia/Nilf.
Aaaand I did my second forfeit in ranked right at the start of the game. Opponent was Nilfgaard and I drew crap. Not a single way to get Morkvarg, no Wild Boar, not a single gold card and not even bronze units that I could use for combo buffing. Hands like this against Nilfgaard? Why should I even try, lol.
Edit2: Holy moly, why is this game dead set on letting you play against opponents with two ranks higher than you.
Nilfgaard, Nilfgaard, Nilfgaard, Nilfgaard, Nilfgaard, Nilfgaard...
Edit2: Nilfgaard again, Lvl 23+ and Mercenary tag. Threw cow carcasses at me, four times, I was able to dodge around it with them never triggering. He playe Tibor as his last card in round 3. I expected it and played my last one, Dimeritium Bomb, and threw a "not bad, not bad at all" at him beforehand.
GG on both sides. It was a really good game.
Man, I'm so dumb. I've been grumbling about lack of cards 'till I realised the challenges were giving me currency to buy card packs. Got a chance to sit down and play and managed to make a pretty respectable monsters deck. Got some pretty good synergy and tricks/combos going. Blazed through the rest of the challenges with it so I guess it's online next.
Darkstorne
Member
These are the biggest problems with the game right now:
1) Everyone wants to play their deck in a highly specific way, and is WAY too focused on getting their starting hand right, and getting their combos right, more interested in executing their same damn strategy than in interacting with their opponent's strategy. The balance isn't right yet, and each deck has only 2 or 3 ways that it can be played, with very little chance of mixing and matching between them. When players like you feel the need to forfeit the game before even playing a single card just because their hand doesn't support their deck's single strategy... this game has a big problem.
2) Balance between decks is off so badly that too many people gravitate to whichever deck is performing best in the meta. Today, that's Nilfgaard, but closed beta players will tell you all about ambush ST and consume Monsters.
This is beta though, so I can forgive the second point. It will also never go away entirely, it just shouldn't be this bad. The first point though... that really needs sorting out.
That's only for bad/new players though if they do that. All decks are focused on combos and specific strategies, but if you don't have the right cards/combos you can still win. No matter what you play you can always put points on the board, or remove points from their boards. What if the other player has bad draws too?
For example the spell NG deck throws away cards that don't do anything all the time. But I don't forfeit. Sometimes you fuck up (can happen easily with that deck) and don't have a gold as last card, so all your enforcers are non-gold and shit. Just play it out and you can still win.
Do you have a smaller chance to win? Sure, but that's with all decks. Up to you if you wanna forfeit straight away.
Darkstorne
Member
Absolutely, and I've always played on through bad starting hands. But there have been multiple times that I've seen others forfeit instantly (presumably due to bad hands) and it's no secret that you can safely predict your opponent's entire strategy 95% of the time after they've played their first card. Many you can easily predict after seeing their leader card. That's INSANE for a card game.
Never happened to me and I've played 200+ ranked games.
Exentryk
Member
Played against a Nilf dude that kept taunting me throughout the match, like 'give up while you can' and 'thanks my friend' crap. Third round he's buffed up his Impera unit to 26, and has a couple others buffed up to 10 or so as well. He's pretty much already doing a victory lap when my last card resets the Impera and he loses the match by one point. Oh, those sweet tears, lol!
Btw, how do people say all those various comments? I only get like an option to say 6 sentences and none of those have the ones people say?
Anyway, I played a bit more ranked and got to rank 6 now. Getting like 50 odd points with a win, and it's only one or two games to rank up. The kegs I've been getting have been absolutely terrible tho. I still only have 2 non default gold cards >_>
Btw, how do people say all those various comments? I only get like an option to say 6 sentences and none of those have the ones people say?
Anyway, I played a bit more ranked and got to rank 6 now. Getting like 50 odd points with a win, and it's only one or two games to rank up. The kegs I've been getting have been absolutely terrible tho. I still only have 2 non default gold cards >_>
So, the goal being to carry over as much power as possible, I'm thinking about a Wild Boar, Hunter, Longship deck with the Resilient special card and resetting options. I just used Dimeritium Bomb on my Longship and carried it over to round 2 with 23 or 25 power. A whole deck crafted for that purpose with additional measures against some stuff would be interesting to try out.
Every avatar says different stuff.
Exentryk
Member
Thanks.
Also re your resilience strat, it sounds really good. People will need a scorch to get rid of the cards, and that alone is a mighty ask, but you can have three of those ships! Resilience is a low tempo play though, and people will try to lock those attempts whenever possible.
Yoshichan
And they made him a Lord of Cinder. Not for virtue, but for might. Such is a lord, I suppose. But here I ask. Do we have a sodding chance?
Something about me opening packs in this game... completely opposite luck compared to Hearthstone.
Bought 40 packs:
And got these...:
Can someone please calculate the odds of getting 5 legendaries in 40 packs (considering it's an average of 1 legendary per 40 packs).
Last time I opened packs, I got 5 legendaries on 60 packs. Holy fucking shit.
Bought 40 packs:
And got these...:
Can someone please calculate the odds of getting 5 legendaries in 40 packs (considering it's an average of 1 legendary per 40 packs).
Last time I opened packs, I got 5 legendaries on 60 packs. Holy fucking shit.
Mobius and pet octopus
Member
I think you laugh about my comments but there are already decks being played that are designed around limiting your ability to interact with their strategies. Such as spellgaard which plays few units outside of golds and then the few bronze units it runs promote to gold and most of the deck is spells. Sound familiar?
Strategies that limit interactivity in card games often turn out to be very strong.
Nose Master
Member
Spell decks are so easy to counter, though. You just string then along with weak cards or your own golds and watch them throw all their cards right in the garbage.
Opponent locked and demoted my Hjalmar. I had Decoy in my hand, used it and the opponent had two Lord of Undviks on his side. I got rid of them. High powered Hjalmar.
https://abload.de/img/a1faafa3-b35e-4e96-996fkyj.png
+I made it to rank 10 thanks to that.
https://abload.de/img/a1faafa3-b35e-4e96-996fkyj.png
True, it's just something I'd like to try and was able to test during my last matches. I gathered all I had and created a starter version of such a deck. It's currently a ~5 win streak, but I didn't play against an overpowered deck yet.
+I made it to rank 10 thanks to that.
Already on my ignore list. /jk
Demoting gold cards is a thing though.