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[mr_nothin]

Well I took some pics and I know they suck. I hope they encourage someone to take some better ones... but I think they still get the point across. Halo 2 textures and models look extremely dated.

wow backfire

no where near extreme
h2 does look good....still
and its standing next to h3

 

[goldenpp72]

Everything in halo 3 has a lot more depth and detail, it's just that that's all it has so far. Most games have gone an extra mile and added things to make it look more robust and full (such as lost planets heavy use of particle effects, explosions, ground deformation, animation)

Still those shots are helpful.

 

[Zeal]

I'd say the geometry is higher and the textures appear to be more organic. Probably the most apparent thing missing is dynamic lighting and reflections.

 

[DD-11]

I don't know if your slow or something, but I was referring to those pics posted right above my post. It looks good. I'm surprise how much it hold up to today. I already posted all my positive impressions on halo 3 early in the thread so shut up.

Talk about getting on someones bad side. I hope that was worth getting someone to not like you.

eek! I just looked at the pics quickly, adn read your comments, I didn't realize they were comparison pics, I just thought they were H3 pics from the vid. I read your comment quickly and assumed the worst--usually a safe bet. Apologies.

It is definitely not the spartan laser, and it doesn't look like a grenade either. You can clearly see him taking damage (health bar). He must be taking fire, and the only weapon that explodes, is the spiker or something else that we don't know about.

 

[Karma Kramer]

Can't people just sit tight and judge graphics when we get closer to release?

It seriously boggles the mind that people think that an unfinished map with placeholder assets and horrible video feed is a fair and accurate way of judging a game graphically.

Just sit tight for ****s sake and wait until we see a more complete build. I mean its fine and dandy to just post a "quick" impression of the games graphics... but we are the on 29th ****ing page and this debate still continues on.

*sighs*

 

[Firestorm]

This is a 30 page thread?
Did something other than the YouTube video happen or is it just typical GAF?

 

[jet1911]

This is a 30 page thread?
Did something other than the YouTube video happen or is it just typical GAF?

There's a 7 minutes video too.

 

[GhaleonEB]

Can't people just sit tight and judge graphics when we get closer to release?

It seriously boggles the mind that people think that an unfinished map with placeholder assets and horrible video feed is a fair and accurate way of judging a game graphically.

Just sit tight for ****s sake and wait until we see a more complete build. I mean its fine and dandy to just post a "quick" impression of the games graphics... but we are the on 29th ****ing page and this debate still continues on.

*sighs*

a couple more weeks

I really hope there's no other leaks until then.

 

[MaX_PL]

a couple more weeks

I really hope there's no other leaks until then.

why not. i want leaks so this thread can continue. its fun arguing with trolls...

plus may 16th is like 3 weeks away.

 

[GhaleonEB]

why not. i want leaks so this thread can continue. its fun arguing with trolls...

plus may 16th is like 3 weeks away.

The arguments are going in circles - we can't judge things too much with this. Plus, the debate shifts to gameplay once the beta lands. Which is where it's really at.

 

[Karma Kramer]

why not. i want leaks so this thread can continue. its fun arguing with trolls...

plus may 16th is like 3 weeks away.

Well these treads do provide excellent potencial for future crow eating.

 

[Dolphin]

Can't people just sit tight and judge graphics when we get closer to release?

It seriously boggles the mind that people think that an unfinished map with placeholder assets and horrible video feed is a fair and accurate way of judging a game graphically.

Just sit tight for ****s sake and wait until we see a more complete build. I mean its fine and dandy to just post a "quick" impression of the games graphics... but we are the on 29th ****ing page and this debate still continues on.

*sighs*

Hey, we just call em as we see em. If it looks a lot better closer to release, that'll be noted too. Like me, I think most people are saying that they're expecting the game to look better closer to release, and that it just doesn't look too hot right now. Other than people being overly defensive about the game (and vice versa) I don't think there's anything wrong with people discussing what we've seen so far. This is a forum, people discuss.

 

[GhaleonEB]

Well these treads do provide excellent potencial for future crow eating.

I have one of the Alpha screen threads bookmarked. It's a carnival of lunacy in there.

 

[Karma Kramer]

Hey, we just call em as we see em. If it looks a lot better closer to release, that'll be noted too. Like me, I think most people are saying that they're expecting the game to look better closer to release, and that it just doesn't look too hot right now. Other than people being overly defensive about the game (and vice versa) I don't think there's anything wrong with people discussing what we've seen so far. This is a forum, people discuss.

I don't mind a good discussion but this discussion is just d-u-m-b. Its just a back and forth cycle between those who think it looks bad v. good.

My point is can't we move on and talk about the gameplay more?

 

[michaeld]

Is there really a debate about halo gameplay being good? It is pretty much fact.

 

[StranGER]

Mongoose: I don't see it affecting gameplay all that much. People will drive it around just for kicks. I see it getting blown up a lot.

i still wish it had a machine gun on it to compinsate for the ghost having lasers.

 

[Karma Kramer]

Is there really a debate about halo gameplay being good? It is pretty much fact.

Who said debate?

 

[michaeld]

True, I read it wrong

 

[Zeal]

I just hope criticism and threats of bans and all this bullshit disappears once the beta is officially released. I think people will be more than welcomed to give their impressions then.

 

[Ninja Scooter]

Vids like these make me wonder if Denis Dyack has the right idea.

Halo 3 will still sell 5 million copies and get critical acclaim across the board, despite nit picky message board fanboys, so no, Denis Dyack doesn't have the right idea.

 

[michaeld]

I think people will be more than welcomed to give their impressions then.

As long as they are positive...

 

[GhaleonEB]

As long as they are positive...

As long as they are sane and coherent. There's plenty of valid criticism of both Halo 1 and 2 MP, and there will be in Halo 3 as well. I'm hoping we'll see some good discussion about what works, what doesn't and what's just different rather than the "lolz Halo sucks" that gets tossed into Halo threads.

 

[Karma Kramer]

As long as they are positive...

oh snap

 

[Karma Kramer]

Halo 3 will still sell 5 million copies and get critical acclaim across the board, despite nit picky message board fanboys, so no, Denis Dyack doesn't have the right idea.

Well his logic defiantly applies to games that aren't an already established franchise.

 

[michaeld]

Halo 1 is what got me back into gaming and my fav game of all time, but man did I catch hell over part 2 on another board, needless to say I won't be at the Midnight launch for 3, but I am anxiously awaiting the beta. Every Monday night was Halo night, damn good times..4 tvs and 4 Xboxes, plus 10 people or so..amazing.

 

[goldenpp72]

I was dissapointed in halo 2 greatly, pretty much in every way. Ill still be there for halo 3 but if this one did end up sucking ill pretty much not care anymore (as it would be 2 to 1 in terms of awesomeness)

 

[Ninja Scooter]

Well his logic defiantly applies to games that aren't an already established franchise.

did you read the Too Human thread after IGN's recent preview/videos?

 

[cbox]

Great comparison shots man!

 

[Karma Kramer]

did you read the Too Human thread after IGN's recent preview/videos?

yeah...

 

[Zeal]

I was dissapointed in halo 2 greatly, pretty much in every way. Ill still be there for halo 3 but if this one did end up sucking ill pretty much not care anymore (as it would be 2 to 1 in terms of awesomeness)

I'd say that pretty much echoes my sentiments exactly. I still consider the first Halo to be one of the greatest -- if not THE greatest -- games ever made.

 

[Karma Kramer]

Halo SP > Halo 2 SP
Halo MP < Halo 2 MP

 

[Agent Icebeezy]

I swear I hope the beta has a map that is from Halo 2 so we can compare again because this is stupid to the maximum. Why is it everyone forgets that at E3 2001 Halo 1 was almost always voted top 5 worst game there and then 6 months later won numerous game of the year awards. People never learn. Bungie builds the game first, then the graphics.

 

[Eric WK]

Halo SP > Halo 2 SP
Halo MP < Halo 2 MP

I would argue with that.

If Halo:CE Multiplayer was released on XBLA, 90% of the people who play Halo 2 right now (and played Halo: CE in the past) would go back to the original.

Fortunately, Halo 3's MP gameplay looks like the beautiful love child of both it's predecessors.

 

[Karma Kramer]

I would argue with that.

If Halo:CE Multiplayer was released on XBLA, 90% of the people who play Halo 2 right now (and played Halo: CE in the past) would go back to the original.

Fortunately, Halo 3's MP gameplay looks like the beautiful love child of both it's predecessors.

Halo MP hasn't aged well. Its very clunky and slow.

Go back and play it sometime with a few friends. Its not as dreamy as it once was.

 

[tambourine]

Halo SP > Halo 2 SP
Halo MP < Halo 2 MP

I don't agree with that. Halo 1 MP > Halo 2 MP.

 

[duderon]

CE pistol > BR
AR > SMG

This is fun.

 

[tambourine]

CE pistol > BR

This is fun.

tambourine, duderon > Karma Kramer

 

[Mr. Spinnington]

I swear I hope the beta has a map that is from Halo 2 so we can compare again because this is stupid to the maximum. Why is it everyone forgets that at E3 2001 Halo 1 was almost always voted top 5 worst game there and then 6 months later won numerous game of the year awards. People never learn. Bungie builds the game first, then the graphics.

Although it's nice to watch everyone eat their hats regarding your statements, I think it's further proof that you aren't getting to anyone : /

 

[Eric WK]

Halo MP hasn't aged well. Its very clunky and slow.

Go back and play it sometime with a few friends. Its not as dreamy as it once was.

I do play it. Not as often as I'd like, but whenever I can. And I understand your characterization, but the "clunkiness" and "slowness" that you're talking about are what defined Halo multiplayer.

Plus AR and Pistol >>>> SMG and BR.

EDIT: Beaten to that point.

tambourine, duderon > Karma Kramer

Come on dude, I was the first to say he was wrong about Halo 2 MP being better than CE's!

 

[Karma Kramer]

CE pistol > BR
AR > SMG

This is fun.

Bullshit

That ****ing pistol ****ing ruined the game. I almost developed anger management problems because of that pistol and my friends obsessive habit of always using it.

Anyway..

Halo 2 Sniper > Halo 1 Sniper

 

[duderon]

Bullshit

That ****ing pistol ****ing ruined the game. I almost developed anger management problems because of that pistol and my friends obsessive habit of always using it.

Anyway..

Halo 2 Sniper > Halo 1 Sniper

See, this is the part where you go and practice with the pistol so you can beat your friend

 

[Karma Kramer]

See, this is the part where you go and practice with the pistol so you can beat your friend

I was still the best of all my friends... but I prefer using a variety of weapons. Its more fun that way. I hate assholes who just use one weapon all the ****ing time...

bleh

 

[Quagm1r3]

That red beam thing at the end of the vid looked awesome. Can't wait to see what that does to people

 

[jet1911]

That red beam thing at the end of the vid looked awesome. Can't wait to see what that does to people

 

[Agent Icebeezy]

Although it's nice to watch everyone eat their hats regarding your statements, I think it's further proof that you aren't getting to anyone : /

Not trying to 'get to anyone' I could care less about that. This game represents an immense amount to a lot of people, for good or bad. Just the fact that we are nearing 1500 posts for a leaked shitty video indicates such. This video obviously wasn't ready for public consumption, but if anyone actually reads the weekly report, you already knew that. However, for real Halo fans, and there are millions of us, it will be the game that Bungie has always envisioned.

 

[raYne]

That red beam thing at the end of the vid looked awesome. Can't wait to see what that does to people

It doesn't really do anything. It just beams the **** out of you, kills you in one blast and sends you flying.

Bungie really should've done something more with it. Sorta like the disintegration idea someone had earlier.

(note to self: "Must do" #1:

-Kill someone with the Spartan Laser who just launched off the Mancannon.)

 

[Borys]

Calm down, soldier. I left as well.

And I agree with a majority of your points.

What What What

Zeal, I cannot PM you cause you are still a Junior. Get some more posts so we can talk.

Kelegacy is here as well as Draft. Kelegacy has The Guardian from Ultima series as his avatar, Draft has Tomonobu Itagaki as his.

Mine avatar never changed since I came here in 2004.

 

[Stabby McSter]

Halo MP hasn't aged well. Its very clunky and slow.

Go back and play it sometime with a few friends. Its not as dreamy as it once was.

I feel that's somewhat true. I went back and played it awhile ago, and I didn't get so many kills as before.

I do miss that pistol though.

 

[DD-11]

Halo MP hasn't aged well. Its very clunky and slow.

Go back and play it sometime with a few friends. Its not as dreamy as it once was.

I totally agree with this. I had the weekly lan parties and it was a blast. But once we realized that pistol > all, it soon lost its luster. Add the aforementioned slowness and clunkiness and the pistol was just too powerful. Halo 2 with it's focus on MP and everything else is far and away better. I can go either way on SP.

 

[Karma Kramer]

I totally agree with this. I had the weekly lan parties and it was a blast. But once we realized that pistol > all, it soon lost its luster. Add the aforementioned slowness and clunkiness and the pistol was just too powerful. Halo 2 with it's focus on MP and everything else is far and away better. I can go either way on SP.

*high fives*

Yes!

Alright you and me are totally making a clan to own these pistol loving freaks. :lol