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Halo 3 Multiplayer Official Thread
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ToyMachine228
Member
So last night in Multi-Team I was playing Oddball on Narrows when someone in the game got to an area that's not part of the map. It's visable, and everyone can get there easily, but it seems that you can only live there for a few seconds then you die. So the game turned into a matter of people jumping down to their oncoming deaths for a few second of oddball possession. I'm not saying where it is because I don't want it to become widespread. A lot of you probably already know about it. But hopefully it gets fixed in a patch.
siamesedreamer
Banned
alisdair said:
Kind of...
I was under the assumption that the BR's power made up the difference in the amount of bullets you can put on a target with an AR. But, in my experiment, ime-wise you're better off going with the AR.
For instance, in our experiment my partner stood still while I unloaded on him. It takes 7 BR trigger squeezes on the body (we shot at the leg) for a kill and 4 directly on the head. The 7 squeezes equates to half a clip which I showed takes ~3.3 seconds to do. On the other hand it takes almost a full AR clip (probably 90% of the clip) of body shots for a kill. And I showed that a full AR clip takes ~3.0 seconds to unlaod.
The moral of the story is that if you find yourself in a close encounter shooting the BR you are better off backing away than going in for the melee kill because you won't have enough time to damage them enough to win the melee encounter. But, if you have an AR, then going in for the melee is the better option.
sableholic
Member
ToyMachine228 said:
... everyone knows where that is i think.
Stoney Mason
Banned
Spike said:
Well it means you basically haven't played very much.
single player environments we NEED multiplayer levels built around...
I'm kind of shocked that there is no level built around the prettiest single player level in the game (Sierra 117).
And I couldnt find a really good shot of the area I wanted from floodgate... but it was basically the fire sky with the giant glowing ark behind it. Right around the downed covie cruiser covered in flood soup.
I'm kind of shocked that there is no level built around the prettiest single player level in the game (Sierra 117).
And I couldnt find a really good shot of the area I wanted from floodgate... but it was basically the fire sky with the giant glowing ark behind it. Right around the downed covie cruiser covered in flood soup.
Stoney Mason
Banned
Spike said:
You rank out of it and get the other playlists fairly quickly as I remember.
ToyMachine228
Member
Tieno said:
Whatever the name of that developer is...The developer that did the Halo: CE remakes for Halo 2...Desolation and Tombstone. Hang Em' High...I bet they'd be willing to develop another pair of maps. Either way new maps for Halo 3 means good things.
The problem isn't the lack of actual maps. The problem is how they're being used in the playlists. I remember when Halo 2 first came out, all BTB seemed to consist of was One Flag CTF at Headlong. After a week or two, an update was implemented and all of the maps were used throughout the game. That hasn't happened with Halo 3.
Look at Team Objectives:
One-sided VIP at Isolation
One-sided VIP at High Ground
Assault at High Ground
One Flag at High Ground
Territories at High Ground
One Flag at Narrows
Assault at Narrows
One Flag at Last Resort
Assault at Last Resort
Territories at Last Resort
Territories at Valhalla
Assault at Valhalla
I'm sure I'm missing one or two. But why no KotH? Why not Oddball? Why no objectives on The Pit, Construct, Epitaph, Snowbound, or even Guardian?
Look at Team Objectives:
One-sided VIP at Isolation
One-sided VIP at High Ground
Assault at High Ground
One Flag at High Ground
Territories at High Ground
One Flag at Narrows
Assault at Narrows
One Flag at Last Resort
Assault at Last Resort
Territories at Last Resort
Territories at Valhalla
Assault at Valhalla
I'm sure I'm missing one or two. But why no KotH? Why not Oddball? Why no objectives on The Pit, Construct, Epitaph, Snowbound, or even Guardian?
Tieno
Member
What I don't like at all is territories, veto it right away. It's implemented in such a passive way, just stand on the spot and wait. It'd be so much better if you had to destroy something. But then again, they just did that stuff so they could add racing, but plain territories is boring to me. However I like it on Valhalla
Plus those of us who've played the beta have played three maps a shitton. Only know am I starting to appreciate Highground, Valhalla and Snowbound again. I was tired of them when Halo 3 first came out.tak said:I've realized we were spoiled with the large number of maps in Halo 2
Stoney Mason
Banned
TheWolf said:
Hollering at the weak link on a team is totally useless in any aspect. Shit happens. Sometimes you have a bad game. Being called a pussy bitch fag isn't going to help anyway but that's Xbox Live.
Everyone has a bad game now and then. The only time I get irritated at a player is when they just wholly refuse to do anything. I've played Team Slayer games where a random fourth guy will charge their entire team and get slaughtered. Despite everyone telling him to stay back, he'd continue to go in and die. I've had games lost because of that. Nothing wrong with calling him out. But I had a game on Ascension in H2 where both teams had snipers on opposite ends of the map and I got spawned out in the open five times before finally getting a spawn under cover. Team was talking so much shit about how bad I was.
StUnNeR H2K
Member
JdFoX187 said:
IT's nOt liKE you'Re Just gOing to KeEp Running with someone like that.
Ok, well the leveling system is complete bullshit. I don't want to hear about complicated formulas, because I just had two games in a row, one guy quit immediately, I still led my team, and the next game I had 2 AFK guys and me and the other guy still managed to put up 31 points while the other team got free AFK kills. I delevel to 48 after this, give me a break.
Chittagong
Gold Member
Oh man, I really, really love this game, a lot.
The multiplayer weapon set is so fantastically balanced and once you understand what weapons to use in which situations the game really starts to reward you.
Remembering my bad K/D ratio in Halo 2 and Halo 3 Beta - around 0.66, this time I'm doing a whole lot better. I just reached Level 20 in ranked Slayer and got Captain (not showing up in my Bungie.net profile for some reason yet). My K/D ratio is now 0.97 and still increasing consistently. It's a massive difference.
The maps also have such a fantastic amount of cool spots and situations to master. I love the first rush to the rockets in the Pit. Rushing for the Shotgun when snowbound begins is fantastic too. And getting the shotgun once Narrows starts, with options either Sniper or BR and grenades, so much depth in match beginnings only. I love the battles by the elevator exits in Construct.
My K/D ratios per map:
Construct: 1.21
Guardian: 0.76
High Ground: 0.92
Isolation: 0.91
Last Resort: 0.86
Narrows: 0.93
Snowbound: 1.02
The Pit: 1.07
Valhalla: 0.86
As you see, I just can't seem to be able to figure out Guardian. I just get my ass kicked there. I'm really confused about strategy and where to head and what to shoot with.
Final note. You guys still get the rush of adrenaline while playing? I'm still getting excited like a kid. Sometimes it's not that great for performance all shaking and shouting. But love the feeling.
The multiplayer weapon set is so fantastically balanced and once you understand what weapons to use in which situations the game really starts to reward you.
Remembering my bad K/D ratio in Halo 2 and Halo 3 Beta - around 0.66, this time I'm doing a whole lot better. I just reached Level 20 in ranked Slayer and got Captain (not showing up in my Bungie.net profile for some reason yet). My K/D ratio is now 0.97 and still increasing consistently. It's a massive difference.
The maps also have such a fantastic amount of cool spots and situations to master. I love the first rush to the rockets in the Pit. Rushing for the Shotgun when snowbound begins is fantastic too. And getting the shotgun once Narrows starts, with options either Sniper or BR and grenades, so much depth in match beginnings only. I love the battles by the elevator exits in Construct.
My K/D ratios per map:
Construct: 1.21
Guardian: 0.76
High Ground: 0.92
Isolation: 0.91
Last Resort: 0.86
Narrows: 0.93
Snowbound: 1.02
The Pit: 1.07
Valhalla: 0.86
As you see, I just can't seem to be able to figure out Guardian. I just get my ass kicked there. I'm really confused about strategy and where to head and what to shoot with.
Final note. You guys still get the rush of adrenaline while playing? I'm still getting excited like a kid. Sometimes it's not that great for performance all shaking and shouting. But love the feeling.
Hey, I think we should all talk about our favorite Campaign levels!
FAKE EDIT: No we shouldn't. We should talk about out favorite multiplayere maps here, and campaign levels is the official thread.
To get us started:
Love:
Guardian: Not sure why, but I like this a lot more than Lockout. Lots of interesting control points, and I've always enjoyed my games here.
Narrows: The map version of Jesus Christ, Allah, Stinkles, etc. So good.
Sandtrap: Lots of fun for BTB, a really well designed map all around.
Valhalla: Really well balanced, and excellent for a wide variety of gametypes. Really rewards you for working as a team.
Like:
Construct: I didn't like this at first, but I'm starting to "get" it, and it's really awesome visually.
High Ground: I like the map, but fatigue from the beta combined with the terrible spawns makes me dread this map a bit. Still, lots of fun.
Snowbound: An excellent map I really enjoy, and the shield doors are cool, but the beta has made me fatigue on this map.
Epitaph: I really don't get the hate for this map. Awesome for Rockets matches, and is good for grenade practice. A good showcase for the AR being an excellent starting weapon.
Am okay with:
Isolation: Really cool visually, and excellent for Oddball, but there's a bit too much empty space on the map at any given time.
The Pit: I know a lot of people love it, and I'm starting to warm up to it, but the Sword sort of breaks this map.
Don't like/Hate:
Last Resort: Not terrible, but I was never a huge fan of Zanzibar, and I've played it too much. Good for Snipers, though.
FAKE EDIT: No we shouldn't. We should talk about out favorite multiplayere maps here, and campaign levels is the official thread.
To get us started:
Love:
Guardian: Not sure why, but I like this a lot more than Lockout. Lots of interesting control points, and I've always enjoyed my games here.
Narrows: The map version of Jesus Christ, Allah, Stinkles, etc. So good.
Sandtrap: Lots of fun for BTB, a really well designed map all around.
Valhalla: Really well balanced, and excellent for a wide variety of gametypes. Really rewards you for working as a team.
Like:
Construct: I didn't like this at first, but I'm starting to "get" it, and it's really awesome visually.
High Ground: I like the map, but fatigue from the beta combined with the terrible spawns makes me dread this map a bit. Still, lots of fun.
Snowbound: An excellent map I really enjoy, and the shield doors are cool, but the beta has made me fatigue on this map.
Epitaph: I really don't get the hate for this map. Awesome for Rockets matches, and is good for grenade practice. A good showcase for the AR being an excellent starting weapon.
Am okay with:
Isolation: Really cool visually, and excellent for Oddball, but there's a bit too much empty space on the map at any given time.
The Pit: I know a lot of people love it, and I'm starting to warm up to it, but the Sword sort of breaks this map.
Don't like/Hate:
Last Resort: Not terrible, but I was never a huge fan of Zanzibar, and I've played it too much. Good for Snipers, though.
Stoney Mason
Banned
Ramirez said:
I thought it only took into account wins and losses and your rank relative to those competing. Not how you finished within your team.
Chittagong
Gold Member
TheWolf said:
BRs? How does that work out? The map consists on pretty much corridors and confined spaces around the yellow elevator, and BR doesn't seem to be really at it's best there. Or do you try to find a peaceful spot somewhere across the map and drop people around the elevator room from there?