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Halo 3 Multiplayer Official Thread
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valparaiso
I had an Al Sharpton friend...Once! Well not a friend really, but we talked a few times. Well one time. Well I yelled out my window "GET OFF MY LAWN!"
hey, stinkles, you guys broke the fucking game 
stop listening to h4rdcore players on the internet. taking out all those maulers was an overkill, and ffs shotty snipers was a million times better than team snipers.
i spent $10 on those new maps just before realising halo isn't fun any more D:
stop listening to h4rdcore players on the internet. taking out all those maulers was an overkill, and ffs shotty snipers was a million times better than team snipers.
i spent $10 on those new maps just before realising halo isn't fun any more D:
Captain Blood
Member
i think taking out the extra maulers was a very good decision. I also am not really bothered by the pistol secondary in snipers. One thing I am not to sure about is the covvy weapon gametype in Big Team Battle. Not a big deal but i think the good in the update far out weighs the bad
TheDrizzlerJ11
Member
valparaiso said:hey, stinkles, you guys broke the fucking game
stop listening to h4rdcore players on the internet. taking out all those maulers was an overkill, and ffs shotty snipers was a million times better than team snipers.
i spent $10 on those new maps just before realising halo isn't fun any more D:
you crazy.
The maulers in Construct were cheesy.
All people would do is camp by the lifts (purple one in particular). Sounds fun, amirite?
I guess the only way somebody would be upset they are now limited is they used that plan frequently.
Also, there aren't mauler problems in the new maps. I don't get that complaint..?
All people would do is camp by the lifts (purple one in particular). Sounds fun, amirite?
I guess the only way somebody would be upset they are now limited is they used that plan frequently.
Also, there aren't mauler problems in the new maps. I don't get that complaint..?
valparaiso
I had an Al Sharpton friend...Once! Well not a friend really, but we talked a few times. Well one time. Well I yelled out my window "GET OFF MY LAWN!"
Striker said:
yes. yes you are. and talking to your team and trying to find the safest way up was nice too. now it's all ololol running in circles trying to get some headshots.
don't get me wrong, i love the battle rifle and use it often in many maps, but i like close quarters battles much more. guardian was my favourite map because it was a fucking carnage by the elevator. i used to get 15+ kills almost every single time, and now i'm lucky if i make it past 8. the k/d ratio stays pretty much the same, but i'd rather get a 15/10 than a 10/5 because that's the way i like to play the game.
dunno, seems to me that folks who enjoy keeping a distance could do so before, but this last update screwed people who like close fights pretty badly. bad way to fix the melee problems, imo.
I'm glad the maulers at the top of Construct are gone, they were cheap. But taking all of the maulers out of Guardian? Why?
It's completely changed the balance of the map. Not necessarily for the worse, I guess, but I'm finding it really hard to adjust. Maybe it would be better if the maulers were replaced with BRs at the same spawn point.
It's completely changed the balance of the map. Not necessarily for the worse, I guess, but I'm finding it really hard to adjust. Maybe it would be better if the maulers were replaced with BRs at the same spawn point.
ToyMachine228
Member
After 17 games in the Heroic DLC playlist I finally got Rat's Nest:lol I've only played it once, but I liked it. It definitely strikes a good balance between being a large map with vehicles, and a small up close map.
valparaiso
I had an Al Sharpton friend...Once! Well not a friend really, but we talked a few times. Well one time. Well I yelled out my window "GET OFF MY LAWN!"
Striker said:
i do, i do (well, except on team snipers, that is.) it's just that it's pretty useless when you're in a room with a couple of enemies wielding a shotgun/grav hammer.
long-distance fighting is tactical, but so were close quarters battles. people aren't dumb and know to back up when confronted by a mauler/shotty, so you had to try and catch them off-guard. right now if your enemy is wielding one of the few short-range weapons available in closed maps you're pretty much screwed no matter what you do.
I haven't played any of the maps with changes yet. But I cannot imagine why Bungie would take out all the maulers and put battle rifle starts on Guardian. There were too many maulers on that map, yes. But take out a couple and leave the rest. And what the hell is with removing the assault rifle starts? Wasn't the whole point of the assault rifle to be the perfect starting weapon between the battle rifle/pistol and the SMG? I can understand, maybe, putting them on Sandtrap. But then, they're put on the smallest map in the game? ...Wow...
sableholic
Member
JdFoX187 said:
The maulers weren't replaced with BRs. The maulers are just gone.
PrivateWHudson
Member
Ramirez said:You guys always find something to cry about. :lol I for one welcome our new non mauler overlords.
The game shipped with maulers and AR starts. It was the BR guys that were crying. I just spent the last couple of months getting adjusted, and finding a playing style that works for me. I hated the mauler in the begining, then I realized it wasn't going anywhere so I sacked up and learned how to kill with it, and how not to be killed by it. I really don't feel like spending two more months getting used to the long range hide and shoot game that is BR starts.
The upside is I'll get to spend more time exploring the art of Forging.
valparaiso
I had an Al Sharpton friend...Once! Well not a friend really, but we talked a few times. Well one time. Well I yelled out my window "GET OFF MY LAWN!"
PrivateWHudson said:
my point exactly.
if they wanted to listen to the people complaining about the maulers they could've just nerfed them down, instead of changing the whole dynamic of the game.
i just played two of those.
and also, i wonder wtf will team hardcore be about now, since they already put team brs in the regular team slayer hopper.
That's what I'm wondering.
What's the point of adding BR starts in normal TS maps when Team Hardcore is going to be released? Look at Halo 2, for example:
Burial Mounds, Coagulation, Terminal, Beaver Creek (for a little while), Relic, Colossus (for some time), and (near the end) Zanzibar had Battle Rifle starts. I might be missing a few. What's my point? Those were medium/large maps. What's Guardian? Perhaps the smallest map on Halo 3. Plus it's not wide open, like those above. Not to mention Halo 2 had a SMG start, which didn't have range at all. Then they brought back the Assault Rifle which can handle basically any weapon on its own, when used correctly.
Just curious...
What's the point of adding BR starts in normal TS maps when Team Hardcore is going to be released? Look at Halo 2, for example:
Burial Mounds, Coagulation, Terminal, Beaver Creek (for a little while), Relic, Colossus (for some time), and (near the end) Zanzibar had Battle Rifle starts. I might be missing a few. What's my point? Those were medium/large maps. What's Guardian? Perhaps the smallest map on Halo 3. Plus it's not wide open, like those above. Not to mention Halo 2 had a SMG start, which didn't have range at all. Then they brought back the Assault Rifle which can handle basically any weapon on its own, when used correctly.
Just curious...
ToyMachine228
Member
You know...I think I smell a Bungie VS GAF Humpday Challenge. On GAF created Foundry variants. Or any maps really. That'd be hotness. Bungie could just select players who they feel are a major part of the Halo community here at GAF and square off for a Humpday Challenge. I'd love to see it and I'm sure it'd be a blast.
PS: If you guys see me on tonight invite me. It's been a while since I got to play a game of Halo with a competitive team and use strategy.
PS: If you guys see me on tonight invite me. It's been a while since I got to play a game of Halo with a competitive team and use strategy.
ToyMachine228
Member
Ramirez said:
Oh sweet I must have missed it. I'm just getting back into H3 after a month or so hiatus. I played a little but I'm playing daily again. I have to say I just had the best Multi-Flag CTF games I've ever had. One on Standoff and one on Rat's Nest. Back to back. We won them both and I did well, but my team felt coordinated and that was the best part.
Also, good Bungie Weekly Update this week. Glad to see they've already got the next downloadable map pack planned and playable.
ToyMachine228
Member
Striker said:
Midship and Boarding Action!
Captain Blood
Member
tak said:
I agree it doesn't seem like a lot of people really mention relic but I always thought it was a great map
BladedExpert
Member
tak said:
I didn't think much of it for TS but Big Team/4v4 One Flag CTF was freaking awesome!!! One of the best one sided objective maps ever, besides Terminal of course
sixthsubset
Banned
PrivateWHudson said:
i think you're over-generalizing it. changing the starting weapon to a br doesn't change the pace of the game that drastically in that it turns into a camp-a-thon or even a "long range hide and shoot game." in fact having played thousands of mlg matches i'd say the game is actually sped up by br start. it's actually easier to rush with br start especially in matchmaking because you have a weapon that can actually get multikills without reloading and with the right strafe the average matchmaking player will miss at least 50% of the time.
pretty much if you want to get good, learn to aim a br at any range. you don't really have to ever adjust, because if you can aim a br, you can aim anything in the game.
ToyMachine228
Member
Nutter said:
I might be on in a bit. Finishing up an 8-9 page paper on Health Care. RyoGCH is the Tag for those of you who don't already know me.
BladedExpert
Member
Ramirez said:
I haven't had the ...umm... "pleasure" of a team duals yet but if you get a Pistol as start or back up im all for it
If on the other hand you dont, then i hope to God it gets Veto'd Probably the same folks who begged and begged for Ninja Assault and Ninja CTF.Ramirez said:
Right, Jeremiah (Halo 2's playlist guy)?
Yes, let's place in things YOU want, but ignore the community. Everybody wanted BTB ranked again or 6v6 to return, but no. Oh and removing the entire map of Backwash instead of simply taking out the Invisiblity.
Agreed. See my post above.Stridone said:
No sense in it being in normal TS at all. Especially Guardian.
I don't like the BR starts either, but only because it's the best weapon in the game. I can't think of any Team BRs game where I've picked up anything apart from a shotgun, sniper, or laser. For me, Halo is about the weapon rock-paper-scissors, and starting with the BR removes a lot of that.
The Heroic DLC playlist has convinced me that 6v6 is awesome, although I'd really much prefer it was ranked. When we occasionally get a fair game of Neutral Bomb or Multi Flag on Standoff against a good team, it's fantastic. Standoff is quickly becoming my favourite map ever.
The Heroic DLC playlist has convinced me that 6v6 is awesome, although I'd really much prefer it was ranked. When we occasionally get a fair game of Neutral Bomb or Multi Flag on Standoff against a good team, it's fantastic. Standoff is quickly becoming my favourite map ever.
BladedExpert
Member
alisdair said:
Im right behind you on that one. I have to say i kinda like a BR start on some of the larger maps (Valhalla or Last Stand for instance) if only because it saves me the time it would take to go and pick one up. Agreed that Guardian isn't the place for it though!
You see, that's the problem.Nutter said:I do not agree with you guys about Team BR's. If it bothers you guys so much, get better at the weapon
Oh yeah, I hit my 50.. because of Team BR's
I remember a lot of people saying "just switch to your SMG" when BR starts were first implemented in Halo 2. Yeah, I'll switch to an SMG when everyone else has BRs and will shoot me down from across the map. Does that really sound that intelligent?
The availability of a different weapon isn't the problem. If I'm a sword fan and there are BR starts in a swords game, dumb comparison I know, what's the point of me running around with the sword?
The BR start completely changes the game. It creates more long-range combat and lessens the close encounters. That might be good for huge maps like Sandtrap. But why Guardian?
The map had a problem with Maulers. Like most maps, it had way too many. So take out a bunch of maulers. I've yet to see hardcore camping with carbines, battle rifles and the sniper on Guardian. Those are usually the reasons that Bungie puts BR starts on maps. I have no idea why they did it. But I just happen to chalk it as another one of the many, many decisions that I feel Bungie has dropped the ball on.
One thing though, its maybe just me; but ever since BR start has been implemented i have not seen any team "camp" at any place. its just too much of a risk. even with the sniper and shotguns still on the maps. But yeah i love BR, i can see why you guys don't like it in guardian, but maps like standoff, narrows, and high ground, people usually do go for BR's, so having them start with one is good thing.
If only that was the case.
You always get host, if only everyone had that convenience with the BR.
If only that was the case.
Dirtbag 504 said:
Huh? Wut?
Also, the Playlist has been active for about five days and is continually evolving process. Please don't act like it's hardwired forever, or that your imaginary "big boys" are somehow the final arbiters of what's fun.
My suggestion? Roll with it, get used to it, watch it evolve and play more customs.
Also, "CASUALS" - how can you say that with a straight face? CASUALS.
Captain Blood
Member
This is a bit off the current topic but do you guys have any idea why there are no flame grenades in matchmaking?
ToyMachine228
Member
Cap7ain Blood said:
I've been advocating this for a while. In future DLC, Bungie should incorporate more things like Flame Grenades, Choppers, and the Hornet and more of those cool things that Bungie introduced in Halo 3's single-player.
And is anyone up for playing some Team Slayer or Heroic DLC in a bit? I'm going to take a break from studying soon. Yes, studying as I post this on GAF. Let me know:lol
AndersTheSwede
Member
I don't like the taking out of maulers completely on guardian. They are my favorite new weapon in H3, and I think this nerfing is going to far. Yes you could camp pretty easily, but there are counters to everything in Halo, thats what makes it fun. Bungie shouldn't stick their hand in and seriously change the way a map plays this far after release, unless there is a map that is absolutely broken, and I don't think guardian was. In fact, it played the best out of all the smaller maps.
Surely Bungie tested the Mauler and the strategies of its use before release and chose to place them in the maps for a reason. Now all of a sudden they say, oops, our bad, lets rebalence everything?
Sounds like Bungie is doing exactly what they said they avoid: bow to a vocal minority.
Surely Bungie tested the Mauler and the strategies of its use before release and chose to place them in the maps for a reason. Now all of a sudden they say, oops, our bad, lets rebalence everything?
Sounds like Bungie is doing exactly what they said they avoid: bow to a vocal minority.