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[Dirtbag]

Okay...whoever said the BR starts would stop camping: you're full of shit. The only thing they've done is make it more prevelant. BR starts are the worst thing Bungie has done to Halo 3 and I tell you, that list is getting longer by the day.

Not to mention they take the fun completely out of the game. Instead of a chess match of different weapons against different weapons and strategy it's turned into: grenade spam...headshot...grenade spam...headshot.

And thanks for the borked levelling system. Bust my ass all night to get to a 42, lose one game and go back to 40, where I started to begin with.

Part of the problem with BR starts as the game stands now, is how weakened the power weapons have become, there is really no need/desire to pick up anything else. A grenade + BR headshot destroys everything. Power weapons are the main motivator for a good team to move around the map. Otherwise why give up the advantage?

The rockets are pretty weaksauce (slow, no splash), you can't fast switch to a shotgun/sword/hammer for any of them to be a surprise attack, and sniper lost it's quick shot ability (which I happen to like, but still doesnt help most of you guys). Why would you want to run with anything else in your hands really? With the disadvantage of no fast switching, the better players have quickly realized its better to lob grenades and backpedal because running in an relying on a melee has proven frustrating.

I'll certainly pick up these other weapons, but I'll always lead with the BR if I've got one.
IMO the BR/Carbine are the power-weapons.

 

[JdFoX187]

Part of the problem with BR starts as the game stands now, is how weakened the power weapons have become, there is really no need/desire to pick up anything else. A grenade + BR headshot destroys everything. Power weapons are the main motivator for a good team to move around the map. Otherwise why give up the advantage?

The rockets are pretty weaksauce (slow, no splash), you can't fast switch to a shotgun/sword/hammer for any of them to be a surprise attack, and sniper lost it's quick shot ability (which I happen to like, but still doesnt help most of you guys). Why would you want to run with anything else in your hands really? With the disadvantage of no fast switching, the better players have quickly realized its better to lob grenades and backpedal because running in an relying on a melee has proven frustrating.

I'll certainly pick up these other weapons, but I'll always lead with the BR if I've got one.
IMO the BR/Carbine are the power-weapons.

I agree with everything you said. To me, the BR is like a power weapon of its own. In my mind, a starting weapon should be a good all-around weapon that can hold its own. But it should still be a wapon you'd like to switch out for something if you happen to come across it. With BR starts, why do you need to swap it out with anything? I'm like you though. I might pick up a shotgun for close quarters or a needler. But the BR is the main weapon I'll use in those games.

 

[Nutter]

I agree with everything you said. To me, the BR is like a power weapon of its own. In my mind, a starting weapon should be a good all-around weapon that can hold its own. But it should still be a wapon you'd like to switch out for something if you happen to come across it. With BR starts, why do you need to swap it out with anything? I'm like you though. I might pick up a shotgun for close quarters or a needler. But the BR is the main weapon I'll use in those games.

The BR is a horrible weapon for Close combat. (no button combos can save you here)
It doesnt matter how good the person weilding the BR is, if someone is close enough with an AR. The BR person is going down.

 

[TheWolf]

yeah, i regularly switch to the AR on Team BRs when the combat gets close.

 

[Dirtbag]

The BR is a horrible weapon for Close combat. (no button combos can save you here)
It doesnt matter how good the person weilding the BR is, if someone is close enough with an AR. The BR person is going down.

I agree, but if that person got in close on you against your BR, he deserves the advantage at that point. If the BR had the accuracy it had in Halo2 (and no I'm not talking magnetism, but bullet accuracy), and the AR didnt have the copious amounts of magnetism it currently has, it would be perfect.

 

[Nutter]

So is the new Playlist Live yet?

Will own some people in Team Hardcore tonight!

 

[ToyMachine228]

So is the new Playlist Live yet?

Will own some people in Team Hardcore tonight!

I'll be playing tonight as well to check out the changes. Is there a documented list of changes up anywhere yet? I imagine there will be a post on Bungie.net about it when it goes live, but I could be wrong.

 

[Sandman42]

The playlist has been delayed to tommorow.

http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=15588712

 

[StUnNeR H2K]

I'll get excited about a playlist update when it includes BTB Ranked... BTB un-ranked runs so smooth compared to Halo 2. The only issue with BRB Ranked in Halo 2 was the occasional laggy games... it shouldn't be an issue in Halo 3.

 

[Nutter]

The playlist has been delayed to tommorow.

http://www.bungie.net/Forums/posts.aspx?postID=15588712

Ah man, I was looking forward to playing THC today.

Oh and ranked BTB is coming sometime in January.

 

[Kuroyume]

I wanted to play some lone wolves. I chose the "good connection" filter for matchmaking. I got a fucking swords game on snowbound. I groan. The game begins and I'm doing fine. It turns ultra laggy and killing people becomes difficult. The guy who eventually won was practically warping around me. I check his gamertag bio after the match and it turns out that the guy is living in fucking Finland. Finland! You know what? If I select "good connection" then I don't want to play with dudes on the other side of the world. I would rather spend a minute or two more in matchmaking rather than having to deal with that.

 

[JdFoX187]

I wanted to play some lone wolves. I chose the "good connection" filter for matchmaking. I got a fucking swords game on snowbound. I groan. The game begins and I'm doing fine. It turns ultra laggy and killing people becomes difficult. The guy who eventually won was practically warping around me. I check his gamertag bio after the match and it turns out that the guy is living in fucking Finland. Finland! You know what? If I select "good connection" then I don't want to play with dudes on the other side of the world. I would rather spend a minute or two more in matchmaking rather than having to deal with that.

There should be a filter that allows you to play with guys in your own region.

 

[TheWolf]

lol no Maulers on Guardian now. people were pissed. :lol

 

[Kuroyume]

Does anyone like Construct now without Maulers? I think that removing them was a good idea, but having BRs on the map is just fucking dumb. People just spam the main lift with nades and BR shots. The other lifts are usually covered too.

 

[Sandman42]

I wanted to play some lone wolves. I chose the "good connection" filter for matchmaking. I got a fucking swords game on snowbound. I groan. The game begins and I'm doing fine. It turns ultra laggy and killing people becomes difficult. The guy who eventually won was practically warping around me. I check his gamertag bio after the match and it turns out that the guy is living in fucking Finland. Finland! You know what? If I select "good connection" then I don't want to play with dudes on the other side of the world. I would rather spend a minute or two more in matchmaking rather than having to deal with that.

The "good connection" filter is some kind of horrible ironic joke. I get better connections just by using the default settings.

 

[Kuroyume]

I'm totally not having fun anymore. The last two-three days I've been in a totally awful funk. I just played another game on Construct. I went 1-16. 1 and fucking 16. What the fuck? In my last 10 matches Construct has appeared 4 times and Epitaph once. The two worst maps appeared half the time! The maps suck. I suck on those maps. I'm tempted to go into some team games so that I could get away from them, but my rank fell from 40 to 37 or so in the last two days and that's annoying me for some reason. I can't wait until I stop caring about that.

 

[Ramirez]

This thread is an endless stream of bitter tears. I don't personally care for BR Guardians, but it's really not as bad as most of you make it out to be. Adapt to different play styles, that way you're ready for whatever the MM system spits out...even team duals. -_-

 

[Striker]

This thread is an endless stream of bitter tears. I don't personally care for BR Guardians, but it's really not as bad as most of you make it out to be. Adapt to different play styles, that way you're ready for whatever the MM system spits out...even team duals. -_-

Team BRs on Guardian turns into a camp fest -- mainly for the folks who spawn by the Sniper Rifle (and seconds later, gaining the Hammer).

I played Team BRs on Narrows last night. Playing something so repetitive became very boring. Hopefully when Team Hardcore comes out, they rid the mess of Team BRs in normal Slayer (for all maps not named Valhalla).

 

[Voltron64]

The "good connection" filter is some kind of horrible ironic joke. I get better connections just by using the default settings.

Same thing happens to me. I don't even bother with that setting anymore.

 

[ToyMachine228]

I'm getting on if anyone wants to play or is playing and looking for a teammate. RyoGCH is the tag. Hit me up.

 

[Ramirez]

My team BR games aren't camp fests, it usually ends up with the bad players trying to rush and getting naded and one shot. :lol Last Resort BRs makes the map flow so much better, I actually like the map now in that game type.

 

[BladedExpert]

My team BR games aren't camp fests, it usually ends up with the bad players trying to rush and getting naded and one shot. :lol Last Resort BRs makes the map flow so much better, I actually like the map now in that game type.

Seconded. Last Resort is a pain in the ass if all you have is an AR and spawn anywhere other than the base or sea wall. BR starts for Valhalla too (although there's about 600 BR's on the map anyway, im just lazy"/)

 

[JdFoX187]

Team BRs on Guardian turns into a camp fest -- mainly for the folks who spawn by the Sniper Rifle (and seconds later, gaining the Hammer).

I played Team BRs on Narrows last night. Playing something so repetitive became very boring. Hopefully when Team Hardcore comes out, they rid the mess of Team BRs in normal Slayer (for all maps not named Valhalla).

God, I hated that Narrows game. If it's still in my recent videos tonight, I'll record it and put it in my file share for those who say Team BRs is not a camp-fest.

 

[BladedExpert]

God, I hated that Narrows game. If it's still in my recent videos tonight, I'll record it and put it in my file share for those who say Team BRs is not a camp-fest.

 

[JdFoX187]

Oh I won't argue that fact at all. I just don't think it makes the game as fun. And isn't that the point of playing?

 

[Nutter]

So is THC up yet?

Not having the radar on Guardian BR's would help as the fuckers wont be camping with the hammer.

 

[BladedExpert]

Oh I won't argue that fact at all. I just don't think it makes the game as fun. And isn't that the point of playing?

It certainly is. And i agree, camping annoys me like nothing else.

 

[ToyMachine228]

So is THC up yet?

Nope, not yet I was just on. I imagine it should be coming really soon though.

 

[JdFoX187]

I checked on my lunch break a little ago, still no updates.

 

[sixthsubset]

It doesnt matter how good the person weilding the BR is, if someone is close enough with an AR. The BR person is going down.

you need to play with better people

 

[BladedExpert]

Update is live. Im 2 for 2 in Hardcore

Ed: Epitaph is awesome 3v3 with a BR start!!

 

[kuYuri]

I'd probably be up for Team Hardcore tonight.

 

[ToyMachine228]

I'd probably be up for Team Hardcore tonight.

I just played some Hardcore and it's not quite what I remembered. I think I was thinking of SWAT from Halo 2. And for those of you who don't know, in Hardcore in Halo 3, you still have Radar that picks up friendlies, just not your enemies. I think I'd prefer it get turned off altogether like Halo 2. If it's there at all I find myself looking at it.

 

[PrivateWHudson]

I just played some Hardcore and it's not quite what I remembered. I think I was thinking of SWAT from Halo 2. And for those of you who don't know, in Hardcore in Halo 3, you still have Radar that picks up friendlies, just not your enemies. I think I'd prefer it get turned off altogether like Halo 2. If it's there at all I find myself looking at it.

I agree with this completely. I feel like I play better when it's not there at all. When it's there I catch myself paying more attention to the radar than what's right in front of me.

Also, if anyone needs a Forge buddy just shoot me an invite (PrivateWHudson), I'd love to find someone to bounce ideas off of, and playtesting brand new creations sounds fun. I'm usually on from 9 or 10 to midnight (Eastern Time).

 

[JdFoX187]

I just played some Hardcore and it's not quite what I remembered. I think I was thinking of SWAT from Halo 2. And for those of you who don't know, in Hardcore in Halo 3, you still have Radar that picks up friendlies, just not your enemies. I think I'd prefer it get turned off altogether like Halo 2. If it's there at all I find myself looking at it.

The radar in Halo 2 was either on or off. The radar in Halo 3 allows to see only enemies or only friendlies. It allows for some better coordination, but I don't see the use of it with the player tags.

 

[Striker]

My team BR games aren't camp fests, it usually ends up with the bad players trying to rush and getting naded and one shot. :lol Last Resort BRs makes the map flow so much better, I actually like the map now in that game type.

Last Resort wouldn't be so bad. Why? It's a fairly good size map. Guardian? Narrows? Fuck that.

you need to play with better people

And a good AR person can take down a BR in close-range. Some AR fire then a melee.

I've done it multiple times. It's not hard.

 

[StUnNeR H2K]

...I've done it multiple times. It's not hard.

Right... and I'm a dinosaur.

 

[JdFoX187]

Right... and I'm a dinosaur.

 

[Striker]

Right... and I'm a dinosaur.

 

[Dirtbag]

Right... and I'm a dinosaur.

for the triple threat!

 

[JdFoX187]

Triple Kill!

 

[Captain Blood]

What else is different in THC other than the radar. BR starts right?

 

[BladedExpert]

What else is different in THC other than the radar. BR starts right?

Some of the weapon and equipment layouts have been changed. For instance, theres a sword on guardian in team ball, bubble shield instead of re-gen on The Pit

 

[Ramirez]

you need to play with better people

We have an MLG Pro folks.

Online, if an AR gets the jump on you and he's close, and all you have is the BR, you're probably dead to due the games melee system and lag. If you're host or playing offline, I could see it becoming a higher percentage of BR winning, but the BRs hit detection online is pretty bleh. The 50 foot lunge on most melees doesn't help either.

 

[Nutter]

you need to play with better people

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wait.

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It is ridiculously easy to take a BR person down with an AR at close range.

 

[StUnNeR H2K]

 

[ToyMachine228]

Got my Commander last night after about a two month hiatus. Been playing again for about a week now. Played split-screen with my roommate last night and played a mix of Rocket Race, Multi-Team and Social Slayer. Even though it was split screen it was good fun. Was pretty funny when friend alerts came up every two seconds and blocked his view too:lol

 

[JdFoX187]

I need to go ahead and grind my way up to a 50 in Lone Wolves. The best games I've had on Halo 3 have been Rocket Race so I'm in no hurry to get into ranked :lol

Congrats on becoming a Commander.

 

[Ramirez]

I'm loving Hardcore, except for getting matched up with tards every game...:lol

 

[shintoki]

I know its a bit odd, But would anyone like to play with me. Maybe do some Slayer and stuff. I don't really consider myself good or anything, and not to lie. I do really speak much...then again when I do, Its normally not a good thing to say:lol Unless I'm playing with buddies

For the most part I've been playing Shadowrun and COD4 but I really want to get back to playing halo. I miss BAsheee!!!!:lol The only thing I think Im good at in it

XBL: Shintoki
And here is my Halo Account Page
I'm pretty much decent. So I don't think I would hurt you playing with others.

i mainly like to play Big Team Battle...But Ill play anything. I just love the Bashee is all:lol