Halo 4 Announced (MS Conf, 2012, Start Of New Trilogy)
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ncsuDuncan
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Ascension is Pinnacle.
The Librarian
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AllIsOneIsNone
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A bit of a Reach, but I'll take it.
We're done here.
AllIsOneIsNone
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If 343i read the last couple pages on this thread, they'd know how much we truly need some Halo 4 info at this point. People are getting desperate.
:lol
I disagree, Reach's story had so much potential, and bungie just ruined it.
dragonelite
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dragonelite
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They should have done a First Strike game if you ask me.
needed more captain keyes too
I'd say Halo 2 and Halo 3 were about on a par with each other, with Halo 2 slightly edging it.
Reach just isn't competition.
Shouldve brought the book Spartans into the fold, I agree.
Amid all these speculations about gameplay and story, there are somethings I think 343 just has to get right.
To me it starts with interface. After slugging through TERRIBLE interfaces lately... Going back to play Reach was a joy. Clean, easy to look at, and when you navigated it, it was smooth, responsive and had a good 'feel'. What worries me if that interface on the main menu on Anniversary was TERRIBLE. Movement/feel was horrible. It maybe a small thing to some, but interface to me is a good reflection of a polished project.
Speaking of polish, I hope they get the game DONE before the summer. Then 343 can shine this baby up, tighten up those graphics on Lvl 3, kill dem bugs. Give the whole game a feel like every piece of it from top to bottom was given the same attention to detail and design that we've come to expect from Bungie previously. Part of me thinks these are impossible goals for a new developer to just excel on when Bungie had years 10+ years making Halo games. But if people were brought into 343 with the intent to match, or even excel past those standards.. I have hope.
Until I don't. Then I'll bitch on the internet.
Edit: Nevermind what I posted. Instead LISTS!
To me it starts with interface. After slugging through TERRIBLE interfaces lately... Going back to play Reach was a joy. Clean, easy to look at, and when you navigated it, it was smooth, responsive and had a good 'feel'. What worries me if that interface on the main menu on Anniversary was TERRIBLE. Movement/feel was horrible. It maybe a small thing to some, but interface to me is a good reflection of a polished project.
Speaking of polish, I hope they get the game DONE before the summer. Then 343 can shine this baby up, tighten up those graphics on Lvl 3, kill dem bugs. Give the whole game a feel like every piece of it from top to bottom was given the same attention to detail and design that we've come to expect from Bungie previously. Part of me thinks these are impossible goals for a new developer to just excel on when Bungie had years 10+ years making Halo games. But if people were brought into 343 with the intent to match, or even excel past those standards.. I have hope.
Until I don't. Then I'll bitch on the internet.
Edit: Nevermind what I posted. Instead LISTS!
It all depends on whether or not you like the Arbiter and/or the Flood. I don't, so Halo 2 sucks for a good 50 % of the game. Halo 1 sucks for the last 30 % of the game. Halo 3 sucks for the 15 % levels with the flood. Halo Reach is great. My ranking is:
Halo Reach
Halo 3 ODST
Halo 3
Halo 1 (Anniversary and Classic)
Halo 2
If you're talking multiplayer that would change of course.
Halo 2
Halo Reach
Halo 3 ODST
Halo 3
specialguy
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Halo CE>Reach>ODST>3<>2.
Both 2 and 3 are pretty bad. ODST began a return to form that Reach continued.
Reach is on par with CE as a pure game, but CE being new at the time with all those new feelings it caused is hard to ever beat.
Cant believe how much I'm enjoying Anniversary, as proof how good CE was. All the reviewers criticisms about dated design was pure bunk.
ODST multiplayer better than Halo 3 multiplayer? Your opinion is by definition, void.
I approve.
specialguy
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I find Halo is becoming my favorite series again, overtaking Gears of War.
I really really like MS new philosophy of bring Halo's more frequently. A halo every 3 years, just isn't getting it done. It doesnt have to be a yearly iteration, but it cant be, go dark for two years after every Halo game as MS put it.
I'm loving that I'm loving Anniversary right now, Reach the year before, and will be playing Halo 4 in just a few months. It's great.
Halo reach does have the most gorgeous cutscenes though
If only what was going on in the cutscenes had more substanceoutside of a couple (halsey) which actually told a story, most were wrap up or point A/point B
I still see Reach as a wasted opportunity. The destruction of the planet was never fully captured, I never felt like I was on a planet ready to be destroyed. They could have displayed this so much better in multiple cutscenes than just the one where you see the city burn. I mean for gods sake there are so many people on Reach and you only see them for one mission and thats it. Halo: Reach felt more like a city being invaded than a planet.
ElzarTheBam
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Hmm let see compared to mine:
Campaign gameplay
Halo 1
ODST
Halo Reach
Halo 2
Halo 3
Campaign (story)
Halo 2
ODST
Halo 1
Halo Reach
Halo 3 (The story is Halo 3 was sadly pretty shitty, it was also conveyed in a weak way, however, the saving grace IMO was the terminals, especially after what we know now)
Multiplayer
Halo 2
Halo 3
Halo Reach
Funny, as a long-time Halo player, Reach was a breath of fresh air coming off the bland and uninspiring Halo 3. The people I see praising Halo 3 are mostly people that started with that game and never played the previous two, or didn't that much.
MrGreencastle
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If these ranking lists are going to continue, then at least, for the sake of discussion, could we say why?
Cliffhanger? Can't think of anything else that makes you think that.
That, and no E3 mission (not enough Earth) stuff. I did have a lot of fun with the Action replay mods for the campaign like a huge Elites vs Master Chief battle on the bridge. Now I LOVE all the campaigns but it comes down to which I love the least.
The E3 mission had everything scripted up. The Metropolis level in H2 was damn fun and worked out well looking back. Would I have loved for more Earth-bound levels? Absolutely, and it's a shame we couldn't get to.
That's how I view each campaign after Halo 1. Halo 2, Halo 3, Halo 3: ODST, and Halo Reach each had their selective moments in a level or two, but none were as memorable or as thrilling all around as Halo 1. Simple as that.
That's how I view each campaign after Halo 1. Halo 2, Halo 3, Halo 3: ODST, and Halo Reach each had their selective moments in a level or two, but none were as memorable or as thrilling all around as Halo 1. Simple as that.
For the sake of discussions I guess:
Campaign (gameplay)
Halo 1
-Most intense and also fairest Halo game. Enemies constantly spawn all around you (which hardly happens in other Halo games) which makes it a lot more hectic. Also, I never feel cheated when I die like in some other Halo games. Lastly, I felt like you could use a larger variety of weapon effectively even on Legendary.
Halo 3
-Has good encounters but is dragged down by the Brutes and I felt like the vehicle combat really lacks on harder difficulties.
Halo Reach
-Elites back to former glory but overall it was too easy to just run through the campaign with plasma pistol and DMR. Legendary felt very cheap at times.
ODST
-Uninteresting environments with bad encounters. Only thing that it had going for itself was the fact that being an ODST made it (only slightly) more challenging. This forced you to use a bit more stealth every now and then.
Halo 2
Jackal Snipers, bulletsponge Brutes and annoying Drones.
Campaign (story)
Halo 2
-The entire Covenant side of the story was really interesting and added a lot to the universe. Character development was also superior to other Halo games.
Halo 1
-Simple, yet effective. Forerunner mysteries and all.
ODST
-Fairly interesting characters and I think the story about Buck and Bigjaw was told pretty well.
Halo 3
-Boring and paled in comparison with Halo 2.
Halo Reach
-Non-existing storyline.
Multiplayer
Halo 2
-Good maps, good gametypes, and best playlist management in any Halo game (like that says anything).
Halo 3
-A weak and slower version of Halo 2. Weird gametypes played on bad maps. Most equipment pieces were dumb as hell.
Halo Reach
-This.
Campaign (gameplay)
Halo 1
-Most intense and also fairest Halo game. Enemies constantly spawn all around you (which hardly happens in other Halo games) which makes it a lot more hectic. Also, I never feel cheated when I die like in some other Halo games. Lastly, I felt like you could use a larger variety of weapon effectively even on Legendary.
Halo 3
-Has good encounters but is dragged down by the Brutes and I felt like the vehicle combat really lacks on harder difficulties.
Halo Reach
-Elites back to former glory but overall it was too easy to just run through the campaign with plasma pistol and DMR. Legendary felt very cheap at times.
ODST
-Uninteresting environments with bad encounters. Only thing that it had going for itself was the fact that being an ODST made it (only slightly) more challenging. This forced you to use a bit more stealth every now and then.
Halo 2
Jackal Snipers, bulletsponge Brutes and annoying Drones.
Campaign (story)
Halo 2
-The entire Covenant side of the story was really interesting and added a lot to the universe. Character development was also superior to other Halo games.
Halo 1
-Simple, yet effective. Forerunner mysteries and all.
ODST
-Fairly interesting characters and I think the story about Buck and Bigjaw was told pretty well.
Halo 3
-Boring and paled in comparison with Halo 2.
Halo Reach
-Non-existing storyline.
Multiplayer
Halo 2
-Good maps, good gametypes, and best playlist management in any Halo game (like that says anything).
Halo 3
-A weak and slower version of Halo 2. Weird gametypes played on bad maps. Most equipment pieces were dumb as hell.
Halo Reach
-This.
Gameplaywise, campaign goes H1 > H:R > ODST= H3 > H2 for me.
Storywise, they pretty much go in order from H1 onward.
The Librarian
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JAFFA! Kreet! Have you no honor?
I agree with this list mostly, but I'd put Halo 1 above Halo 2 in story, and Halo Reach at the bottom for gameplay.
The Librarian
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I always loved your videos, man.
Princess Carl
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Its.... beautiful
f yeah
Halo 3 was the absolute pinnacle for me also, not just in terms of the actual gameplay. For me, as a gamer my whole life, nothing compares to the memories, moments, friends, and fun I had with Halo 3. 2009 for me was the best year for Halo 3. It's when everyone was playing, all the playlists were packed with people to play with, and I actually like the br and the way the game works.
Reach is just meh. The no bloom is a nice touch, but it's a little too late for me imo. I mean, I got to rank hero, but I played it just because it was Halo. If it wasn't Halo, I would have played it for a month and sold it.
What is this Kreet you are talking about? But do you still love me? Also, dat Beastly montage!
I'm sorry, but your post has no ranking in it. Please edit it to rank something arbitrary so you don't upset anyone.
I'll agree with the campaign but LOL at the pinnacle of gameplay...armor lock and bloom say hi.
Biggest-Geek-Ever
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http://www.computerandvideogames.com/334143/halo-4-set-for-reveal-this-month-claims-mag/
Hopefully very true
and hopefully not old
dragonelite
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Old but halo Gaf devolved back into ranking halo games
.Halo gaf cycle News --> Ranking Halo games --> BR vs DMR vs AR --> Begging 343 for news --> back to News--> and so on