Being moderately censorious once in a while is never wrong.
Halo 4 Announced (MS Conf, 2012, Start Of New Trilogy)
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Being moderately censorious once in a while is never wrong.
Buttonbasher
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It's the content that has been released by them so far (Books mainly) that seems to imply the direction that their heading that has me personally hyped. I was excited at the announcement because I'm a fan of the series, but it wasn't until I read the Forerunner Saga books and saw implications as to what this new trilogy will be that I got super hyped.
They've been dark about the game itself, sure. But they've released a ton of non-game content out of the studio that shows they're taking that universe in the right direction in my opinion. I imagine the game will do the same.
Then again I'm a single player only guy, so as long as the story is good and they don't completely forget how to make a character control I'll be fine.
Wrong.
Being purposefully over critical when there's literally nothing to criticise is always wrong, 100% of the time.
Yes, but doing it constantly and consistently is wrong and annoying. State your opinion, if somebody goes in on it then it's a debate, now it's more forcing then an actual debate. I for one like reading critiques, if they are well constructed.
These are your statement: Halo died with Bungie, no faith in 343 and do not get why people are hyped. All these statements are conclude that you have already written this off, so my question is why are you still in this thread then?
You've claimed that anyone excited about Halo 4 will be disappointed, and you did so in a manner that elevated you to prophetical genius. Such a 'censorious' comment might be justified if we'd seen enough footage to make such a statement.
As it is we've not even had a reveal of the game, seen a second of gameplay or learnt an iota of the story or feature set.
bobs...onGaf
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Bungie are fantastic and all, but they seemed to move further away from the formulae they created with each game. Eventually we ended up with Reach which dissapointed me greatly.
Im holding my reservations about 343, but I am glad that they seem to be fans of the original trilogy and will at least try and make a game that appeals to me. If they succeed is a whole nother thing, but since we havent seen any media I have no reason to criticise them. Sure on the flipside that means Halo 4 itself doesnt excite me, but it does mean that the reveal is going to be exciting, because it will allow me to see if Halo 4 is something that will appeal to me or not.
So essentially, my excitement and expectations from Halo 4 is literally nothing, but I am pretty excited about seeing the first footage so that I can set my hype and expectations.
I assume I ought to be a bit more constructive and heartening in this thread.
My advice once again, nevertheless: hype the game, not the name.
I care about it, I'm merely not as hopeful as you peeps.
Demoncarnotaur
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Considering the team behind Halo 4, and what 343 has done with the expanded universe of Halo, Im hyped. 343 seems to have a great team working there and I really cant wait to see what type of game they design.. Also, Im willing to bet they tell a story in Halo 4 better than past Halo games, as they seem to have a bigger picture in mind already. Yes, it may come out different than what we expect, but for now I remain just as excited as if it were developed by Bungie still.
I'm hyped because all recent content from 343 (Books, Terminals in CEA etc.) has all been pointing towards a more interesting story than in previous Halos. Also, the list of employees working at 343 gets my hopes up.
Narrative aspect might be fitting, however if the gameplay's second-class, why bother?
But nobody knows whether that's going to be good or not. People are just exciting about the things we've seen so far. It makes no sense assuming the gameplay is going to be either good or bad because we don't know anything about that yet.
Strange thing to be curious about.
You didn't fix it. You just changed it. My opinion is still as it was; unfixed, unchanged excitement the longer 343 keeps it close to the vest.
It's looking like February, guys. Do we dare hope?
How do you know this? We have not seen anything.
Were you playing with friends constantly.
For the first 8 months, I played occasionally with friends but most of the time I would go solo.
Soon after, I started playing with friends/full teams and found a new love for Reach's MP.
His entire argument is a hypothetical one, based upon the notion that because Bungie is no longer associated with Halo there can only be a steep drop in the quality of the franchise.
If there was any negative argument to stand on at this point, it would be that. But because he has literally nothing to support his pessimistic position, there is proportionately nothing so far to disprove him.
Which is a fence staddling position to take, but whatever.
I'm surmising. I'd preferably be gloomy and pessimistic, and get pleasantly surprised than the other way around.
The hype is half the fun for me. Even if it doesn't meet my expectations, I'll still enjoy it and will not be let down in the process.
Got that...
The Librarian
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Surmising from what?
Now we have an understanding.
My biggest problem is that he consistently written this game off, for every reason possible. I get it, his complaints are not unfounded but does he have to press anybody who has intrest in the title with his opinions? It's not that I don't get where he is coming from, but the whole forcing it down on everybody is terrible.
It's like saying The Last Guardian looks like a pet simulator and repeating it in a thread going "Why the hell would you buy that? It is terrible".
For me, and I'm sure a handful of others, the latest Halo games by Bungie were pretty underwhelming and disappointing in a sense they brought these new crinkles to the gameplay, along with having piss poor maps and mediocre single player campaigns, it wasn't as fun as the first few games. There is new creativity behind these newer games so the hype/disappoint bar is neutral - I'm honestly not sure what to expect. Can you realistically base anything for MP off their decisions and maps made in the Defiant map pack and the Halo CEA Anniversary playlists? That's why I'm holding down any rants or excitement posts until we see something concrete.
343's history and involvment in bringing genuine FPS games to life, which is nothing.
They have a team assembled from past Bungie employees and other men and women who've worked on other franchises and shooters.
There's more to experience than a company name, friend.
Expectations don't need to be quartered and stabled, but merely guided. Let them take you were you want them to go, but know that your only outlet is feedback and the final decision of the direction of the game is left outside your hands.
Different strokes, though.
No track record as a team together. It's not like MS hired a bunch of new people cutting their teeth on a blockbuster, flagship game. The difference is palpable.
bobs...onGaf
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In that case your surmising nothing from nothing?
I mean you can be pessimistic about a team with no track record, but literally exclaiming that they are going to do a bad job because they haven't done a good job in the past is being silly.
Earnestly, it's not. But whatever, as long as you peeps are incapable of becoming reconciled to some modest Halo criticism, I could be fine lurking in this thread.
All what m0dus said is pretty much my point tooThis is a general response, not necessarily directed to xHAASx alone.
I encourage a certain degree of pessimism to help reign in expectations, as a rule.
But don't get so carried away to the point that every sliver of information/speculation is met with eyerolls and groans, especially when said attitude elicits a page of people asking you to stop. The reality is, when THAT happens, it's generally not because people are over-sensitive, it's because your letting your criticisms override your objectivity. IMO that IS trolling, and it will be met with the appropriate response.
Carry on
You have not brought any Halo critiscim to the table, not one thing about the games.
You have been debating about business aspects, such as developer and the people who work there.
This is a general response, not necessarily directed to xHAASx alone.
I encourage a certain degree of pessimism to help reign in expectations, as a rule.
But don't get so carried away to the point that every sliver of information/speculation is met with eyerolls and groans, especially when said attitude elicits a page of people asking you to stop. The reality is, when THAT happens, it's generally not because people are over-sensitive, it's because your letting your criticisms override your objectivity. IMO that IS trolling, and it will be met with the appropriate response.
Carry on
Yeah, I got that.
What criticism? Something concrete, please.
Gameplay of Halo 4 suck, bro. All jetpacks and one-hand grenade launchers.
The Librarian
Banned
You're not making any sense. You can't "surmise" from nothing. What you're doing is "assuming." Big difference, both aren't making any sense.
Yet you're speaking to certain people who've criticised the past Halo game to death.
You've skipped from lambasting a game that you know nothing about to criticising a fan base in which you've clearly misread.
Dino blasters as the entire game? They warned us of this...
dragonelite
Member
So we can have dual wield pro pipe?
the one big and bald reason why halo 4 is going to suck: frankie.
I'm okay with this.
The Librarian
Banned
By the gods...
Hydranockz
Member
Pinnacle is a stretch in my book. I think it was the pinnacle of netcode and XBL integration. The active roster is amazing and it's crazy how much I take for granted as a result.
The gameplay was great, but the handling of playlists and maps left a sour taste in too many mouths.
Too many mistakes with bloom, banshees, arour abilities and so on.
Cautiously hoping for better next time.
bobs...onGaf
Member
I find that a lot of people who didn't really play much Halo in the past enjoy Reach whereas long term Halo fans find it disappointing because it doesn't really contain the elements of gameplay they enjoy from the series.
Out of curiosity, is this true for you? Of course many long term Halo players enjoy Reach so im not saying it is the case, im just curious though. Did you play the older games a whole bunch? If so what makes Reach seem like the pinnacle of the series?
Feel the Swift
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And the fact that Forge World custom maps are everywhere.
base shagohod
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There you go, much better.
this.