AdmiralSnackbar
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If you read the data pads in Reach
you find out that the Covenant can't really glass planets and that it is really just a sort of urban legend that the AI Illuminati is allowing to be perpetrated to boost fighting spirit.
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If you read the data pads in Reach
Space tethers are energy efficient ways to launch personnel and small payloads into space. They tend to be clustered around equatorial regions as they relate to the spin of a planet. They lead directly into orbital space. They are made of lightweight materials like carbon nanotubes and they are based on solid scientific principles. The energy a descending elevator creates through friction and other forces is almost enough to power a return trip. They lead to hubs or stations that are balanced to ensure the best return on energy and spin. Infinitely safer and more energy efficient than solid or liquid fueled rockets, and in a Halo fiction, the default civilian/light military solution to escape velocity.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_elevator
Baconsammy
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NERD!
spootime
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Someone please answer this: will this happen within my lifetime?
spootime
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what do you think buddy
nhlducks35
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How old are you?
That seems to contradict several scenes in the books then.
Which is apparently what Halo: Reach does.
Ghost_Protocol
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Those lips are amazing:
Demoncarnotaur
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Out of curiosity what happened
to the rest of the elevator? Did it fall down after it was shot, or did it get pulled out into space?
I do not understand how
This episode was even better than the last, and I really liked the last one. I'm just afraid that things will get cheesy when the Spartans start coming in.
people were falling from the sky. Either they were up in a space station or locked inside of the elevator area, which seemed enclosed. Unless the chamber the people were inside of blew up, but then you'd expect them to be charred from that, or at the very least dead.
This episode was even better than the last, and I really liked the last one. I'm just afraid that things will get cheesy when the Spartans start coming in.
Dear lord yes.
Never watched the Narnia films (and I still won't now), but of the bits and pieces that I've seen, all I remember are those lips.
I H8 Memes
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Those lips are amazing:
You need to rehost the image.
But yes, they are the nicest DSL's I've seen since Tania Raymonde.
Probably not. And maybe you don't want it to. From Halo 2, FUD, that horrible Star Trek: Voyager episode, Mars Trilogy from Kim Stanley Robinson... space elevators are the red shirts of future transportation.
If the elevator was broken where it was shot in the episode, the majority of the length of the tether will fly off into space, with the counterweight (space station/asteroid) flung out of orbit. If it breaks closer to the counterweight, the tether falls down, wrapping itself around the planet. Maybe twice :\. They're seriously long.
http://gassend.net/spaceelevator/breaks/index.html#Animations
Demoncarnotaur
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Jesus, I wish we would have got a longshot of that. It would have been amazing.
Just bought Halo Anniversary and halo ODST
damn halo anniversary is pretty good. but I must say, the most stupid decision not to include an updated physics engine. my mind cannot comprehend the stupidity behind this decision.
they want it to remain untouched? why exactly? we are talking about a technical limitation back in the day that prevented halo from having ragdoll physics, so it would of been a no brainer to include them in anniverary, hell would of been a no brainer to include halo reach's death animations. considering its the halo reach engine....
but nooo nostalgic bullshit prevailed.
damn halo anniversary is pretty good. but I must say, the most stupid decision not to include an updated physics engine. my mind cannot comprehend the stupidity behind this decision.
they want it to remain untouched? why exactly? we are talking about a technical limitation back in the day that prevented halo from having ragdoll physics, so it would of been a no brainer to include them in anniverary, hell would of been a no brainer to include halo reach's death animations. considering its the halo reach engine....
but nooo nostalgic bullshit prevailed.
Spazznid
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Anniversary is NOT a remake.
Imagine that you're playing Halo CE with a shiny coat of paint on it... Except that you're NOT imagining it. You are literally playing the original Halo with new graphics thrown on top. And most Halo fans wouldn't have it any other way.
The ONLY thing I can say that I dislike about annivesary is the lack of ALL of the original multiplayer levels and the original multiplayer component it self. I'd love to go back to Wizard... Or Blood Gulch/Sidewinder with the original Halo physics and indestructible vehicles...
It's the Halo:CE engine, exactly. (aside from whatever magic they used for the Kinect features)
Clockblockers
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I believe that's why the original halo movie fell apart. MS wasn't willing to give up enough control to Hollywood, and negotiations stalled pretty quickly.
Considering how some classics such as Super Mario Bros and Street Fighter turned out I can't believe MS wouldn't trust the movie industry to do whats right for the franchise.
TacticalFox88
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Um...this takes place in 2531 right? If so, how does Lasky and the others not know about the Covenant? I doubt even ONI can coverup first contact with an alien species that wants to WIPE OUT ALL OF HUMANITY.
Same year as the Harvest attack iirc
This is a very good thing, i think. Only thing that sucked was losing Blomkamp.
Ein Soph Aur
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It takes place in 2526.
Monumental
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There is NOTHING of the Reach engine in Anniversanary except for the graphical overlay.
You've made the mistake to think that an engine is graphics. It is not.
Everything from the jump height, the inertia of the player, the turn radius of the warthog, the height of fall damage, the hitboxes of enemies, all of that and a thousand other things are calculated in Halo. To give it the Reach engine would mean that the entire game would play differently and so much of the campaign would be broken. They;d have to redo practically the entire game, and it still wouldn't feel like Halo:CE.
Now there's an argument to be made about whether they should have completely remade it or not, but that denies the practicality of the situation where they only had a certain amount of time and budget to create the game. Hopefully, they'll plan out the next remake (I really hope there is one), a little further in advance. People don't think of Halo 2's campaign as fondly, and a completely overhaul with remixed levels and new levels thrown in will make the Halo 2 remake A LOT more appealing.
Wait wtf? Stinkles which one is it?
fastford58
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I'm loving this series. I almost think it would succeed on TV if the quality stayed consistent. Even the acting isn't too shabby.
Agreed. Quality is already better than the garbage that is Falling Skies.
Demoncarnotaur
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Probably both.
As said, glassing was a bit of an exaggeration; it would simply take too long to do full planets. However, Im sure it existed to some degree and then was blown out of proportion as a propaganda tool.
Both, and some planets required less energy to do a more thorough job of. Thin mantles, high in more volatile minerals and metals etc.
Ein Soph Aur
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There are two more episodes.
NekoFever
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Halo 4-6 predictions based on the lore. I'll spoiler just in case.
I think she's going to go rampant, do something terrible and become a villain, and then reach stability and try to redeem herself. It's already been foreshadowed in Mendicant Bias.
For those who don't follow the lore, Mendicant Bias was a Forerunner AI built to interrogate a captive Gravemind to find a way to combat the Flood. It went rampant and switched sides, becoming a big reason why the Forerunners had to fire the Halos. It was still present in the Forerunner dreadnought used by the Covenant hundreds of thousands of years later, but had stabilised and wanted to help the Forerunners' inheritors (humans) to atone for what it did to its creators.
For those who don't follow the lore, Mendicant Bias was a Forerunner AI built to interrogate a captive Gravemind to find a way to combat the Flood. It went rampant and switched sides, becoming a big reason why the Forerunners had to fire the Halos. It was still present in the Forerunner dreadnought used by the Covenant hundreds of thousands of years later, but had stabilised and wanted to help the Forerunners' inheritors (humans) to atone for what it did to its creators.
Characters on the show will show up in the game, some will play pivotal roles.
BigTnaples
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Bit drastic, you still fight mostly elites after the introduction of Brutes in Reach...
soulassssns
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LOL, no
The elevator was cut less than a kilometre away from the planet's surface, I think it's enough to pull the rest of its body down from orbit. Then again we don't know how heavy the counterweight is (see pic).
Everything moving in orbit, as far as I know, is falling at massive speeds but due to the planets gravitational pull all things go sideways. If the cable is cut and if the counterweight weighs a lot, then It might be enough to throw the rest of the body out to space (?)
BUT the planets gravity (I think) is a much bigger factor. So everything might just fall down. OR continue orbiting - really we don't have anything that is attached from earth all the way to space to know what would happen
My uneducated conclusion: It falls down or keeps orbiting. If it was cut at the very top, that last section might have been thrown off to space (or not), but the rest would still fall (or not)
.... well that was a waste of time
TacticalFox88
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The elevator was cut less than a kilometre away from the planet's surface, I think it's enough to pull the rest of its body down from orbit. Then again we don't know how heavy the counterweight is (see pic).
Everything in moving orbit, as far as I know, is falling at massive speeds but due to the planets gravitational pull all things go sideways. If the cable is cut and if the counterweight weighs a lot, then It might be enough to throw the rest of the body out to space (?)
BUT the planets gravity (I think) is a much bigger factor. So everything might just fall down. OR continue orbiting - really we don't have anything that is attached from earth all the way to space to know what would happen
My uneducated conclusion: It falls down or keeps orbiting. If it was cut at the very top, that last section might have been thrown off to space (or not), but the rest would still fall (or not)
.... well that was a waste of time
I never got the point of a space elevator in the 26th century. I'd imagine Pelicans, Longswords, Sabres, Frigates, and Evac ships EASILY able to leave a planet's atmosphere, seeing as engineering is 500 years more advanced then ours. Plus it's just an enormous structure that has a lot of technical issues, such as space chunks, asteroids, all that jazz.
It'd be like the Forerunners building ships with no AI on board. Completely worthless.
Interplanetary shipping. Ships never have to land. Cargo is sent up the elevator. It makes the whole process much more efficient.