Except that one leaves us with something great and its "sequel" picks back up and is no fun to read.
We shall not speak of the Kilo Five Trilogy.
Except that one leaves us with something great and its "sequel" picks back up and is no fun to read.
We shall not speak of the Kilo Five Trilogy.
Except that one leaves us with something great and its "sequel" picks back up and is no fun to read.
Way before Halo 1.This episode was great! Can't wait to see more! Just one question though, I thought Forward Unto Dawn was supposed to happen between Halo 3 and 4. Well this obviously isn;t the case (?), so when does this take place? Before the events of Halo 1?
This episode was great! Can't wait to see more! Just one question though, I thought Forward Unto Dawn was supposed to happen between Halo 3 and 4. Well this obviously isn;t the case (?), so when does this take place? Before the events of Halo 1?
I don't understand how they could conceal first contact with an alien alliance and the war, but OK I'll play along.
The shot of the elite slicing the statue was the best.
They can absolutely take their suits off.
I'm going to recommend reading The Fall of Reach. It's the first and best Halo book, and it details the full extent of the Spartan II program and many of the people who went through it.
The story also includes the battle at Reach, and many parts of the book have been retconned by Halo Reach, so expect that too.
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We shall not speak of the Kilo Five Trilogy.
Huh? I love Kilo Five. Don't understand the hate. Books have been a lot of fun so far.
I think I'm the exact opposite of most fans when it comes to Halo expanded universe stuff. I like Kilo Five and the Fincher trailer yet I didn't like the ODST live action trailers at all.
FUD has been good though. Not exceptional but I know they are working within the limits of a tight budget.
I do think it tonally misrepresents the game the worst of all the Halo live action trailers I saw that ran on tv.Sorry, but how could you not like the ODST trailer? It's the epitome of trailers, IMHO. Even objectively speaking, it has all the ingredients of a great trailer. Great drama, great action, great music, great special effects, and it ties into the game. Unless you think the drama, action, music, and special effects are poor, then what's not to like about it?
Huh? I love Kilo Five. Don't understand the hate. Books have been a lot of fun so far.
Looks like I´m not alone. Love those books, can´t wait for the next.
This, basically.Then you must love the Halo canon being completely shitted upon.
Then you must love the Halo canon being completely shitted upon.
I´ve heard this said before, but I don´t see the evidence.
Halsey seen critical by ONI? Thats something I can imagine in the powerplay just after the war. What else is there I´m not aware of?
I'm not sure why people hate how she's treated. She deserved everything that was coming to her.
Do we really have to spoiler this?
I´m not saying she deserved it. But she clearly wasn´t playing by ONI rules for a long time, and opposed them often enough. That they decided to get a little payback is not surprising
Part 1 is up (didn't see a thread for it)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfJVgXBfSH8
http://halo.xbox.com/en-US/Universe/detail/halo-4-forward-unto-dawnpart-1/55106d58-91d9-4281-bdbc-079ef3e0a62d
Really enjoyed it, can't wait for more.
PART 2 UP
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K56gSEJ6IGc
PART 3 UP
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WbBYG77VeCE
The situation with Halsey made sense in Glasslands.I'm not sure why people hate how she's treated. She deserved everything that was coming to her.
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Tell me you're not serious with this shit.
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Tell me you're not serious with this shit.
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Tell me you're not serious with this shit.
Just watched the first three, damn, this is awesome. I was completely burnt out on Halo after ODST/3/Reach, haven't looked at anything regarding Halo 4 because I simply no longer cared. But this series is fantastic, and now I'm hyped for the new game and I've never even seen anything on it. Damnit!
Said it in the other thread, the "backlash" to that book was totally unwarranted. Halsey behaves like a mad scientist bitch in every other piece of Halo fiction, and rightfully got what was coming to her in Glasslands.
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Basically what Sir Fragula said. Tactically, from Paragnosky's (sp?) point of view, it also made complete sense. Keep one of the top human scientists, a loose canon, on a leash. Humanity still needs her even though what she did was morally wrong.
I read the short story Pariah from Evolutions about a week before Glasslands, and I think Glasslands get's it spot on.
Halsey IS a War Criminal, somethings really are just unconscionable and plain wrong, regardless of the outcome, and abducting kids at 6 to turn them into super-soldiers is one of them.
Throughoutt the expanded universe it's been made into a grey area depending on the point of view (echoes of Obi-Wan?).
I really enjoyed Glasslands, Halsey has been on a pedestal in the books for too long.
I don't understand how they could conceal first contact with an alien alliance and the war, but OK I'll play along.
The shot of the elite slicing the statue was the best.
itsworking.gifJust watched the first three, damn, this is awesome. I was completely burnt out on Halo after ODST/3/Reach, haven't looked at anything regarding Halo 4 because I simply no longer cared. But this series is fantastic, and now I'm hyped for the new game and I've never even seen anything on it. Damnit!
You all must be forgetting this tiny little fact that if it WEREN"T FOR HALSEY HUMANITY WOULD BE EXTINCT!
Was what she did morally wrong? Sure, no one's questioning that. But to say what Halsey did wasn't necessary is ludicrous and completely and utterly asinine. You all know as well as I do, that if you were in her shoes you'd do the exact same fucking thing.
Glasslands tried to make an issue black and white, when it's still has several shades of grey in it.
So, do morally bankrupt things or preserve the human race in its entirety. You pick.
And let's not mention Parangosky's stupidity involving the Elites. This woman's stupidity is risking ANOTHER war with the Elites that Humanity couldn't hope to (Logically without Deus Ex Machina) to win.
You all must be forgetting this tiny little fact that if it WEREN"T FOR HALSEY HUMANITY WOULD BE EXTINCT!
Was what she did morally wrong? Sure, no one's questioning that. But to say what Halsey did wasn't necessary is ludicrous and completely and utterly asinine. You all know as well as I do, that if you were in her shoes you'd do the exact same fucking thing.
Glasslands tried to make an issue black and white, when it's still has several shades of grey in it.
So, do morally bankrupt things or preserve the human race in its entirety. You pick.
And let's not mention Parangosky's stupidity involving the Elites. This woman's stupidity is risking ANOTHER war with the Elites that Humanity couldn't hope to (Logically without Deus Ex Machina) to win.
The funny thing is she tries to use that argument in the book, and they point out that the Spartan II project was set up during the insurrection, years before the Covenant even showed up. It worked out in the end, but it was hardly necessary to kidnap children and indoctrinate and experiment on them until they're soldiers to fight some terrorists.You all must be forgetting this tiny little fact that if it WEREN"T FOR HALSEY HUMANITY WOULD BE EXTINCT!
Was what she did morally wrong? Sure, no one's questioning that. But to say what Halsey did wasn't necessary is ludicrous and completely and utterly asinine. You all know as well as I do, that if you were in her shoes you'd do the exact same fucking thing.
Glasslands tried to make an issue black and white, when it's still has several shades of grey in it.
So, do morally bankrupt things or preserve the human race in its entirety. You pick.
And let's not mention Parangosky's stupidity involving the Elites. This woman's stupidity is risking ANOTHER war with the Elites that Humanity couldn't hope to (Logically without Deus Ex Machina) to win.
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That is true, and I'm not denying that, but for ONI to sit there and call her out for all of her so called morally bankrupt projects that THEY FUNDED and the fact they've inarguably done shit far more fucked up than she did, reeks of hypocrisy of the highest level.
To me, it seemed like Halsey was scapegoated for ALL of ONI's morally unsound practices, when in reality, they are far more despicable than Halsey could ever be.
To me, it seemed like Halsey was scapegoated for ALL of ONI's morally unsound practices, when in reality, they are far more despicable than Halsey could ever be.
that's the point.
scapegoat halsey > look good to the public > distract everyone from your less than savory nature > continue to have halsey work for you without repercussions/restrictions
sorry if already mentioned, but did anyone else notice Frankie in the most recent episode of FUD? I'm 99% sure it was him, but I haven't gone back to check.
Awesome.
Glasslands tried to make an issue black and white, when it's still has several shades of grey in it.
So, do morally bankrupt things or preserve the human race in its entirety. You pick.
This episode was great! Can't wait to see more! Just one question though, I thought Forward Unto Dawn was supposed to happen between Halo 3 and 4. Well this obviously isn;t the case (?), so when does this take place? Before the events of Halo 1?
Why is there a lack of any vehicles other than the standard ones seen in the main trilogy (Like the stuff in Halo wars) in most things? i thought the explanation for them hardly been seen was that all the places manufacturing them were destroyed by the covenant, that's why we don't see them in the main games.
If anything, Halo has done a great job of making Halsey one of the most complete grey areas of the franchise. In one book you can agree with her, and then starting with Glasslands, you kind of see how you were given into some sort of Stockholm syndrome. When I read through her journal that came with a limited edition of reach, I began to see that even she felt guilt. You could see the effect that her actual crimes were having on her.They did Halsey one better too. They let the world think she was dead instead of revealing what she had done. Worked out for Parangosky and Halsey. Halsey gets to work on the most advanced ship in the fleet and Parangosky gets her lapdog. Everybody wins!
god damn it guys. compelling arguments from both sides.
Does the end justify Halsey's means? Kill a few to save many?
shit like this needs its own OT thread in community, this is more heated than poligaf jaja
My biggest issue is Halsey's flaws can be spread all over ONI, yet Glasslands is biased towards painting her to be the worst of em. She clearly is a war criminal; but so is ONI. I don't like how Mendez is somehow better than her even though he was hands on with kidnapping kids to mass produce and send them on suicide runs at the age of 12. Basically, Traviss was way too biased with her writing and there were way too many inconsistencies.