paperspace
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If you're gonna show some world exclusive footage, why not have a guy with some interest and experience showing it off? It just looks so much worse with people who have no idea what they're doing.
Halo: MCC Halo 3 in 1080p/60FPS Glory - IGN First
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Final Verdict
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Wow, they have some really nice AA going on here!! I'm Impressed.
Also, the 60fps looks super smooth
Also, the 60fps looks super smooth
Diablohead
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flash video and anything over SD was choking my pc so hard for ages, it only became fixed once I installed a fresh windows (went from 7 to 8.1) and now most things play smooth again on a dual core cpu.
I hate flash video so much, I use html 5 extensions in firefox where possible right now.
SmokedMeat
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I'll have to check this footage out later, but I must say Halo does look a bit odd at 60fps. I'm this big hulking character in body armor, and I'm zipping around like a gazelle. Don't get me wrong, I like the smoothness, but it just doesn't seem right to me.
This doesn't really make sense
Twin Tails
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Navidson REC
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Well, from a story point of view, the armor actually enhances the capabilities of a Spartan, so it does kinda make sense.
SmokedMeat
Gamer™
Yeah, I guess your right. Still looks weird to me though.
BloodMoney
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Well, I'd hope that would run at 1080p/60... looks dated
Nonetheless, plenty of butter smooth nostalgia to be had.
Nonetheless, plenty of butter smooth nostalgia to be had.
Navidson REC
Member
I know what you mean. I guess you have to get used to it first. We're all accustomed to 30 fps Halo, after all.
Gabotron ES
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One of the selling points of TLOU remaster (a year old game from the previous gen) was playing it at 1080/60. Surely your console warrior armor has obscured your perception.
I was very excited for this collection but now that I have finally seen the footage in action, I think I am going to pass and invest in new gaming experiences. I just can't justify spending $460 on a new system when I don't even have the time to play the games I already own. The collection looks wonderful but I will hold off until Halo 5 before purchasing an Xone.
Thug Waffle
Member
That's the point. There is a marked difference in hit registration on LAN and online.This difference is more pronounced in 3 than in any other Halo game.
The Real Napsta
Member
Halo 2 anniversary man....
PerezDeCorcho
Member
Who's forcing you to deal with this "same stupid argument"?
My own stupidity =]
I never said anyone else was to blame but me for getting involved.
Yes. ;p
You don't actually go faster... you simply see twice as many frames of image per second.
You should also try it. I've been pounding clowns at 60fps - my headshots are up, the feel is right and the experience feels even better than it looks.
How frequently does it update controller inputs? Was that ever even locked to framerate?
From the video it looks like there's a slightly weird thing that's happening with animations that might be what people are calling out as looking too fast? When enemies die, it looks like they instantly transition to their ragdoll/death animation and it can sometimes look like their character mesh has jumped a bit. I guess that used to be masked by the lower framerate.
A couple of examples are the Brute getting punched at 1:25 and the exploding Grunt at 0:58.
From the video it looks like there's a slightly weird thing that's happening with animations that might be what people are calling out as looking too fast? When enemies die, it looks like they instantly transition to their ragdoll/death animation and it can sometimes look like their character mesh has jumped a bit. I guess that used to be masked by the lower framerate.
A couple of examples are the Brute getting punched at 1:25 and the exploding Grunt at 0:58.
There's a point to be made that higher framerates reveal a lack of texture to motion, though. I was messing around with cameras in WarCraft 3 cinematics some years ago, and had that issue with a dolly low to the ground alongside a cavalry charge; looked stupid until I added a high-frequency low-amplitude shaking to the camera's tilt. That sort of thing tends to become less of a problem with lower framerates, since the low framerate constitutes chop in its own right. The obvious drawback being that your temporal resolution sucks.
It's a tricky issue. Our brains know that first-person movement in the real world is extremely choppy, but they also in some respects smooth it out on an experiential level. A perfectly smooth camera isn't a great emulation of this, but neither is a choppy one with chop that's decoupled from anything the brain can follow. Of course, there's no real reason that you have to emulate it.
...Racing games have an easy way "out", in that added vibrations happening outside of your control and anticipation aren't necessarily "weird." Not that going crazy oversmooth is always a bad choice for them.
Diablohead
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I'm happy that you peeps at 343 went with a 60fps future for halo, you could have easily left it at 30 but decided not to, and for that I thank you all.
Due to the precieved faster movement do you think we will get people complaining about no sprint or will the perception of being faster get rid of some complaints.