wintermute181
Neo Member
We got matched with Europeans and Americans in every game, leading to shitty laggy games with frequent drops. We developed a strong LAN scene instead and serious players never really played online.
Halo: MCC Multiplayer "1th" patch "fix" live!
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We got matched with Europeans and Americans in every game, leading to shitty laggy games with frequent drops. We developed a strong LAN scene instead and serious players never really played online.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
You act like they are doing us a favor fixing a broken product.
They know they fucked up huge and put the future of the franchise/xbox at risk. They deserve all he backlash they get.
It amuses me how some people are so worried about the feelings of people that work there. THIS IS BUSINESS. It isn't personal. People are angry at the company as a whole not any specific person.
s my d lol
smyd. That's a word now you know, I'm using it here on out. I'll never say "s my d", I'll be all "yo tell them to smyd"
Tripp Daily said:
One of the ways of getting the potential outcome you want is to raise your voice and wave the BBB around. As my example illustrates, after 30 some odd times of trying to explain to some dispassionate clerk to fix something and they don't, you up to ante. And guess what: it works.
Which is why your whole naive bit about being all kind and gentle to 343i is complete idealistic bonkers nonsense. 343i is a company with employees like any other. These employees are expected to do a job. If they fail to do a job, consumers can get angry any damn well they feel like because they paid $60.
Chiggs
Gold Member
I guess it's not really surprising since 343 didn't develop any of the material outside of H4. 343 should just outsource the patch.
Actually, what the hell did 343 do in terms of work on this project? Burn the ISO to disc?
Mr. Enigma
Member
Nice job on totally generalizing his statement. He's saying that in regards to a business selling a consumer a busted ass product. If a business fucks up, that consumer has every right to contact the Better Business Bureau. Magically, 99% that fixes the problem.
Once again, you're trying to make these things a PERSONAL dealing. It's not personal. It's business, dude.
Dude, they sold and continue to sell a fundamentally broken product.
Conflict NZ
Member
There are a lot of people here who white knight companies. It's pathetic and sad.
Mr. Enigma
Member
I don't even understand what this post means. Someone translate.
Chiggs
Gold Member
One day it will pay off for them, just you wait. One day 343 will hire all those who defended their honor.
The company promised a working product and they didn't deliver. People are now angry that they got ripped off and are voicing it to them in order to get what they paid for or get their money back. I don't think anyone is saying they feel like they were attacked on a personal level by 343.
Shpeshal Nick
aka Collingwood
Honestly, I don't think they actually did anything on this or CEA on 360. Pathetic studio. Microsoft should really just keep the name given it's relevance to Halo and hire new managerial staff.
The technical staff seem competent enough, Halo 4 was mostly stable and looked great, felt great. But it was design/direction decisions that cost it. Everything involved with MCC also stems from management choices.
It's the non-technical, upper management staff that need to go. I won't name names, most would know who. Need to be less focused on TV Shows, Channels that don't work properly and be more focused on making good, working games.
shit I agree to expanding the blame game. Who else should we toss in for this mess? I forgot the names of the other teams lol ;P
grap3fruitman
Banned
I hadn't been paying too much attention but I thought match making was just borked somehow. I had no idea it was this bad. I was wondering why my brother's friend had to reformat his Xbox.
Conflict NZ
Member
Oh so it should be working for everyone then?
Good for you.
I don't understand why some people have to pull the "get a life" card. You charge someone $60 for a product, make sure the shit works.
I love how gamers have been trained to insult other games for getting upset that a product they spent their hard on money on doesn't work.
aspiegamer
Member
I don't own the game and have just been lurking so I'd like to think I have a bit of perspective. Seriously, have some damn compassion for your fellow forum-mates. Stop attacking them personally for business-related affairs. We're better than that here. You come here to post to avoid that kind of incivility elsewhere. Well, you should, I hope.
Sorry to ruin your streak, but Urban Dictionary has this one dated in 2004 and is top google result for a search of just that, um, word.
I'm not sure what the point of this is. Is it bragging? Trying to put down people who you think for some reason are enjoying the mess? That's just sick.
thunker 9000
Member
Matches are a bit more consistent, but there is party splitting in all playlists still.
DAMN IT. It rolled off the tongue so well too...
professor_t
Member
The anger certainly is justified, but it's not my prevailing emotion.
More than anything, I'm just bummed out by how badly they fucked this up. Halo probably is my favorite series, and it certainly is my favorite multiplayer FPS, and I was hoping that it could return to its former relevance (if only to ensure that we have a robust population with which to compete).
Those hopes are fading. Quickly.
More than anything, I'm just bummed out by how badly they fucked this up. Halo probably is my favorite series, and it certainly is my favorite multiplayer FPS, and I was hoping that it could return to its former relevance (if only to ensure that we have a robust population with which to compete).
Those hopes are fading. Quickly.
With in the 1st two weeks how is this less worse than Driveclub? At least Driveclub had excellent Single player performance. Halo seems to not be right on both ends.
I'm sorry but this is the most absurd post I have read in this thread.
It's technical problems and a bad release timeline that are holding this game back. The content is fantastic, and that is indicative of design choices, both of Bungie and the companies that made MCC.
When the game isn't working properly that is indicative of technical issues. To say people need to go is basically trying to scapegoat upper management staff. That'll do nothing other than derail Halo 5 when you have important staff leaving a year before release.
Edit: I think Microsoft has learned their lesson in this regard. I can foresee two long term consequences for Halo in terms of development:
1. 343i is going to be less likely to take risks in regards to getting more content into future games.
2. Microsoft will, if they're willing, not let this happen again.
The Halo: Master Chief Collection Content And General "Please Work" weekly update, bow in the 6gb flavor.
BlackBuzzard
Banned
Worrying trend, it started with day 1 patches and now publishers just release broken games and then later attempt to fix them.
This patch did absolutely nothing for me.
I still can't find matches. Granted I've only searched three times (twice in BTB and once in Team Slayer), but at this point I've lost patience for this shit. Not going to sit here for an hour in hopes that it decides to put me in a game
What a disaster.
I still can't find matches. Granted I've only searched three times (twice in BTB and once in Team Slayer), but at this point I've lost patience for this shit. Not going to sit here for an hour in hopes that it decides to put me in a game
What a disaster.
Head.spawn
Junior Member
Man, I don't know what to tell you guys that are having issues. I'm getting into games stupid fast, over and over and over again. I have yet for it to take longer than 45 seconds to find players tonight. People are dropping out of the parties post game as well, so I'm basically getting new players each time.
Every company that has ever released a shit product worthy of complaining about has employees. And yet, this is the first time other than in another videogame topic I've seriously seen someone argue that we need to "think of the employees" when leveling our severe criticisms.
What is it about videogames that allow some people to think people who spend $60 on these products shouldn't complain loudly and angrily when the shit does not work?
All the employees who worked on Halo:MCC, Unity, Driveclub: I am sooo sorry that your feelings might be hurt, but make sure you fucking release a product next time that works, mmkay?
Pops Maellard
Member
Halo is fine. No one is going to abandon the franchise because of one half baked collection of older titles on a new console that's still gaining traction. If Halo 5 launches in this state and isn't fixed for weeks, some actual damage might be done, but as it stands there isn't really an issue outside of places like GAF. I actually just bought a Bone on craigslist and enjoyed playing a few hours of Halo CE earlier.
Sikamikanico
#1 Dad
Searched for 20 minutes while I was getting ready for work....nothing,
Mr. Enigma
Member
I'm telling you, that dude either works for 343 or knows someone who does.
6gb worth of new medals.
I'm puzzled here. I wish people would describe more of the process where matchmaking hangs as it now has more status messages.
Does it hang on searching for players?
Does it hang on players found?
Does it hang on connecting to session?
JimiNutz
Banned
I've always had a soft spot for Microsoft.
I enjoyed the original Xbox, loved the 360 and bought my Xbox One on launch day (despite the negativity surrounding launch).
I've always liked Halo and have been looking forward to this game since it was announced to the point that I booked a bunch of days off work to play it.
I've been patient so far but just woke up and saw that the patch didn't work...
Can't explain the sour tatse that this has left in my mouth. It's got to the point where my experience with Halo MCC has actually made me dislike Halo.
When I think 'Halo' now I think of broken matchmaking and bug ridden games. Sucks for 343 but they've actually managed to make me dislike one of my favourite franchises of all time.
Fuck Halo.
Fuck 343.
Fuck Xbox.
Fuck Microsoft.
That's pretty much how I feel right now.
I enjoyed the original Xbox, loved the 360 and bought my Xbox One on launch day (despite the negativity surrounding launch).
I've always liked Halo and have been looking forward to this game since it was announced to the point that I booked a bunch of days off work to play it.
I've been patient so far but just woke up and saw that the patch didn't work...
Can't explain the sour tatse that this has left in my mouth. It's got to the point where my experience with Halo MCC has actually made me dislike Halo.
When I think 'Halo' now I think of broken matchmaking and bug ridden games. Sucks for 343 but they've actually managed to make me dislike one of my favourite franchises of all time.
Fuck Halo.
Fuck 343.
Fuck Xbox.
Fuck Microsoft.
That's pretty much how I feel right now.
Chiggs
Gold Member
I think he was just pointing out that 343 really didn't do much on this game, and that the technical problems are there because of upper management's decision to outsource.
Son of Sam
Banned
has halowaypoint or Frankie come out and said anything?
Mr. Enigma
Member
Of course not. The communication during this whole debacle has been extremely poor.
I think it is because some comments here are directed towards developers as if they are sub human because of the game.
I think everyone should be upset over this launch. However, some of these comments are going over the top and that too, is frustrating, seeing people act like that.
True, but then the problem is that two major Halo releases are coming out a year apart. Outsourcing was the only option 343i had in this regard. It stems back to the original decision to field such an effort that was probably done years ago. There's little benefit of going after 343i now; the damage is done.
I'm not going to "police" your tone but I will point out that the difference between yours in the Driveclub threads and this one is uh, something.
I didn't know you could shout over the internet. We are posting on a forum to discuss with other people. We are not directly sending hate messages to 343's inbox or anything.
I just want to highlight once again how truly crazy this discussion has become, because even I had to double take to notice this.
Let's put aside that shouting and anger has proven to work with companies in the past. Why does this whole idea of shouting even come up? As far as I can tell, nobody is shouting. I've seen no youtube videos of anyone shouting. I've seen no riots, protests, anything.
I see a lot of people posting comments that are clearly seeped in anger.
What exactly do you want everyone on GAF to moderate again? Nobody is shouting. No shouting has been done. In fact, there's even been precious few insults compared to the overall content of all complaints. And the few that went too far have been banned.
So my only conclusion can be that you just want to police the anger altogether. Because otherwise, what I see is a lot of justified anger at poor companies who can't get their act together.
Mr. Enigma
Member
NOT TALKING ABOUT YOU. I'm talking about the Tripp Daily person.
I think we should include reviewers who scored the game before matchmaking went live too.
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