ArchedThunder
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Halo |OT 20| It really does feel like Halo
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Does anyone else see something wrong here...
Poodlestrike
Banned
Pretty cool. Kinda janky, but pretty cool. There's a "preorder" button on the Scorpion, which through me for a bit of a loop for a moment XD
I don't see it.
GringoSuave89
Banned
Kinda odd they mention H3, but....
GringoSuave89
Banned
Ah there we go.
ArchedThunder
Banned
It says it includes Halo 3 but all the maps and gametypes are Halo 2.
EDIT: Okay, didn't see that, was only reading the actual playlist things.
Captain Friendo
Neo Member
So on the twitch. Is that warthog brand new or did they mod the old WETA one to look new-school?
Drifting weapon spawns:
In Halo 1 Xbox, the game ran in lockstep. So each Xbox ran it's own timer and spawned weapons back on it's own. So they never drift since the weapon spawns will never be more than 1 frame apart on each box. Each Xbox has the same processor and clock so they can depend on that.
In Halo 1 PC, the host has to sync the power up spawns. So it requests each client to spawn a powerup in the spot. This takes a bit of time. Then the client that picks up the powerup has to tell the server they picked up the powerup, which will delay the timer being restarted a bit. Clients in a session could either be in 30fps or 60fps and all have different quality clocks (in addition to the host), and you have to do time correction (much more server when catering to dialup).
Delayed respawning:
In Halo 1, clients request a spawn location and tell the server/other boxes where they are going to spawn. On Xbox this was instant due to being in lockstep, so you don't notice it.
In Halo PC, you have to ask the server, the server checks to see the space is open, then tells the client it's okay to spawn, then the client spawns. Due to latency, it takes a bit to spawn in.
In Halo 2, 3, Reach and 4, the HOST controls your spawn, and tells you where you're going to spawn, so respawning is a lot faster, and also why you can be shot at before you're fully spawned in on your box because the animation hasn't finished. The host basically knows where it's going to respawn you before you even die.
The exception to this is Invasion in Reach. Since you could choose your spawn, the host had to wait to see what spawn you wanted, check to see if there was enough space and safe area to do so, then spawned you. This is why in Invasion it was always better to stay on your original spawn or choose your spawn as soon as possible and NOT toggle between spawns, because each time you toggle the safety checks were re-done, and that's why you'd be stuck at "Respawning in 0.." for a moment
In Halo 1 Xbox, the game ran in lockstep. So each Xbox ran it's own timer and spawned weapons back on it's own. So they never drift since the weapon spawns will never be more than 1 frame apart on each box. Each Xbox has the same processor and clock so they can depend on that.
In Halo 1 PC, the host has to sync the power up spawns. So it requests each client to spawn a powerup in the spot. This takes a bit of time. Then the client that picks up the powerup has to tell the server they picked up the powerup, which will delay the timer being restarted a bit. Clients in a session could either be in 30fps or 60fps and all have different quality clocks (in addition to the host), and you have to do time correction (much more server when catering to dialup).
Delayed respawning:
In Halo 1, clients request a spawn location and tell the server/other boxes where they are going to spawn. On Xbox this was instant due to being in lockstep, so you don't notice it.
In Halo PC, you have to ask the server, the server checks to see the space is open, then tells the client it's okay to spawn, then the client spawns. Due to latency, it takes a bit to spawn in.
In Halo 2, 3, Reach and 4, the HOST controls your spawn, and tells you where you're going to spawn, so respawning is a lot faster, and also why you can be shot at before you're fully spawned in on your box because the animation hasn't finished. The host basically knows where it's going to respawn you before you even die.
The exception to this is Invasion in Reach. Since you could choose your spawn, the host had to wait to see what spawn you wanted, check to see if there was enough space and safe area to do so, then spawned you. This is why in Invasion it was always better to stay on your original spawn or choose your spawn as soon as possible and NOT toggle between spawns, because each time you toggle the safety checks were re-done, and that's why you'd be stuck at "Respawning in 0.." for a moment
Yep, Halo CE is pretty great.
Learn to love Twitch chat and streaming for setting up customs, etc. Or just full on blitz MM with players that are all going to vote for CE.
TRD Mr Blonde
Member
Nightfall looks great. Can't wait to watch it.
Watching the stream and melee's look off a bit. I've seen a couple what should be assassinations not register, and front melee's not lunge.
Edit: Also this championship series would be alot more interesting of there were more maps. Why not include H2 and H3? Are they going to do this in the future?
Watching the stream and melee's look off a bit. I've seen a couple what should be assassinations not register, and front melee's not lunge.
Edit: Also this championship series would be alot more interesting of there were more maps. Why not include H2 and H3? Are they going to do this in the future?
Just an FYI, the Xbox One stereo headset is on sale for $39 at Dell, can price match at best buy or wherever you want. They're obviously not as good as some 7.1 or surround headphones, but they're really decent quality stereo, and can let you hear game audio and chat. With customs seeming to be a regular thing, it'd be nice if people were mic'd up. They're normally like $60, so $39 is a great price.
Welfare
Member
I bought the adapter tonight, despite it getting terrible reviews from a lot of people in the user section. Hope it works ok with my A40s, otherwise it's Kinect mic!
ElRenoRaven
Member
I use the adapter and use my Sony Branded PS3 wireless headset. It works great with it too. Don't see why it wouldn't work with other headsets as long as you can plug them into it.
A lot of people complain about crackling/popping while talking, I dunno.
I'll let you know how the adapter works with some regular quality headphones I have Ram as well.
Here is the link for others though. Would be smart to price match locally if you can.
http://accessories.us.dell.com/sna/productdetail.aspx?c=us&l=en&s=dhs&cs=19&sku=A7605127
As the adapter comes with these, if you factor in adapter price, this is not bad for the headphones. I think the armed forces camo ones are for $49 if you want those.
ElRenoRaven
Member
My friends have said I come in crystal clear. Course this is just my experience. I have my controller's firmware completely up to date too. So maybe that helps. I don't know.
GringoSuave89
Banned
Alright here's the big question for me: should I get the Xbox One Stereo Headset, or the adapter for my x12s?
Poodlestrike
Banned
I picked up the X1 Stereo headset a week ago; it's my first full-blown gaming headset, and I gotta say, I like it a lot. I got it for 36 bucks, though, so it might not be worth the full price to someone with a more discriminating ear.
ElRenoRaven
Member
Assuming the x12's work with it I'd go adapter.
GringoSuave89
Banned
Thanks for the input guys. I love my x12 set, so I think I'm just going to go the adapter route.
If you use the link, it's what an extra $14 over the adapter? Not bad for an extra headset. Can try and flip it or keep it as a spare. Ideally, I'd have lived 7.1 wireless top of the line ones, but can't beat like $37 for them.
Majima Everywhere System
Member
GT: Class A Ninja. I have invested too much to get Halo 1 again on a console to turn back now. Looking forward to ruining people's day with our votes.
BeamImpact
Member
list is growing, already 5 people
ive sent everyone of you a buddy request
CE Love List
What is it for?
As there is no dedicated CE playlist on launch we team up to force win the map elections in 4v4, 8v8 or FFA playlist in CEs favour
as we target to get full teams going, our election win is pretty much guaranteed
this is also a great way to get in contact with other CE fans for potential Customs and stuff
Participants:
beamimpact
FUNKNOWN iXi
Welfare Queen I
NeedlerFanPudge
Class A Ninja
ive sent everyone of you a buddy request
CE Love List
What is it for?
As there is no dedicated CE playlist on launch we team up to force win the map elections in 4v4, 8v8 or FFA playlist in CEs favour
as we target to get full teams going, our election win is pretty much guaranteed
this is also a great way to get in contact with other CE fans for potential Customs and stuff
Participants:
beamimpact
FUNKNOWN iXi
Welfare Queen I
NeedlerFanPudge
Class A Ninja
nillapuddin
Member
I wasnt listening for a few minutes, whats the quick version of what Bravo was talking about?
GringoSuave89
Banned
The issue is I haven't been about to use my x12's without an adapter. Does the Stereo Headset have an adapter separate from the headset? Cause that IS really appealing...
Enter The 36 Chambers
Member
Evening friends.
Have MCC installing right now. How do I download the patch? Is it done automatically or do I have to download something manually?
Hit me back, just to chat, sincerely yours, your biggest fan, This is Enter the 36 Chambers.
Have MCC installing right now. How do I download the patch? Is it done automatically or do I have to download something manually?
Hit me back, just to chat, sincerely yours, your biggest fan, This is Enter the 36 Chambers.
Yeah, I missed it too. Anyone have a run down, or just the same info we already know?
K
kittens
Unconfirmed Member
Whoa, haven't heard that song in forever. And yup, the patch should download automatically, but a lot of people have been reporting issues. It might not download the patch right away, and in a worst case scenario you'll have to start the whole download over again.
Chaotic-Strike
Banned
Ah thanks for this but how hard would it to be to patch it back to the original weapon spawns and placement time etc?
Enter The 36 Chambers
Member
Awesome I'll cross my fingers so.
I specifically remember you mentioning problems when not leaving the console on the whole time, so at least I'm prepared for that.
Thanks kittens!
Hmm I'm using the digital store or whatever to download it. No discs. Unless by disc you actually mean the digital version?
Once you let the disc install and you try to boot the game, it'll ask you to apply the update.
Yeah it's the headset, and the adapter. So you're looking at about $14 more and you get a decent pair of stereo headphones to use, maybe sell if you don't want them, keep them as spare etc.
GringoSuave89
Banned
In that case, it'll only be the preload, which is even more confusing. Just leave that sucker running!
That changes things! I'll have to pick it up then. Thanks!
Spawning is just going to be a different engine due to different networking.
Much like how in Halo 2 Classic, you're still going to be able to clone Swords if the host leaves a game and you're holding the sword, but Halo 2 Anniversary won't because they added weapon spawn sanity checks in Halo 3 onwards.
They could reduce drifting by upping the tick rate of the server, it would still slowly drift over really long games but it would be less noticeable.
GringoSuave89
Banned
Still reeling. This tournament is turning out more intense than I thought it would.
LinkToTheFuture
Member
I know 20+ people who use A40 mixamp with the headset adapter & have had no issues
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ﾉ　Poodlestrike
Banned
Best Buy will match basically anything that isn't a garage sale.
If FUNKNOWN is in count me in. GT - xCliQuEx
LinkToTheFuture
Member
GringoSuave89
Banned
They should.
YourExWife
Member
This only happens on wireless if you have a poor signal to the Xbone or you're out of range. Decent wireless space or wired and it's crystal clear.
Enter The 36 Chambers
Member
Silly question but will playing Destiny (only game I have) while MCC installs cause any problems?
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