Poker Face
Member
so if ADS doesn't do what ADS is supposed to do...
why did they change the scope animation?
why did they change the scope animation?
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Halo |OT 20| It really does feel like Halo
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nillapuddin
Member
Im betting there will be customizable scopes of various zoom levels, and probably (an "acog" scope) that is identical to the traditional BR scope
TheOhrenberger.
Banned
the fuck are you talking about?
Tha Robbertster
Member
Find me on MCC with a huge hangover on the 12th! (start of carnaval season heeeeeeuuuuuuuuuyyyy)
I don't want to derail the thread with too long a tangent on the platform question. I'll just say there are plenty of games on both platforms that are not Halo. As for Destiny, it's a great foundation, hopefully Bungie builds the right things atop it.
The Halo 5 footage (such as it is) is about what I expected. Josh's tweet is encouraging, though. Flinch was a really bad call with Halo 4, nice to see they excised it from Halo 5.
FUNKNOWN iXi
Member
Already looks/sounds much better than Halo 3, Reach and Halo 4.
Fahzgoolin
Banned
That's good news though for real...
Poodlestrike
Banned
so if ADS doesn't do what ADS is supposed to do...
why did they change the scope animation?
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Honestly, not the end of the world for me. I'd prefer traditional scope, but whatever. If that's what they're using to try and appeal to the COD crowd instead of loadouts and perks, I'm prepared to call that a win.
And yes, I realize how low my standards are for that to qualify as a victory.
Aww yiss.
I don't feel like Josh's tweet really solves anything. We could tell from the clip that hip fire wasn't affected. Here are the issues:
1. All weapons have ADS
2. Weapon attachments
3. Sprint
4. Obstructing players' view with scope
5. Retconning existing reasons for zoom
Then there's the question of spawns (are they instant?), killstreaks (are they back), loadouts, perks, etc. I don't doubt they will have some playlist bereft of these features, but I suspect they will remain intact for the actual release. Halo 5 can and probably still will be shit. I don't think that's an overreaction, that's just what I've garnered from how they treated Halo 4 and what's in these clips.
Obviously, we'll know more tomorrow, but from the sounds of things ADS is here to stay. It's not cosmetic, it's a design choice that alters every encounter.
1. All weapons have ADS
2. Weapon attachments
3. Sprint
4. Obstructing players' view with scope
5. Retconning existing reasons for zoom
Then there's the question of spawns (are they instant?), killstreaks (are they back), loadouts, perks, etc. I don't doubt they will have some playlist bereft of these features, but I suspect they will remain intact for the actual release. Halo 5 can and probably still will be shit. I don't think that's an overreaction, that's just what I've garnered from how they treated Halo 4 and what's in these clips.
Obviously, we'll know more tomorrow, but from the sounds of things ADS is here to stay. It's not cosmetic, it's a design choice that alters every encounter.
Nothing in that tweet mentions ADS. At all. That alone seems like ADS is in the game. For no reason. Did Spartans somehow lose the ability to link a weapon scope with their built in HUD?
nano machines
TheOhrenberger.
Banned
Pretty much. I mean it already tricked a bunch of us here, so those scrubs will certainly fall for it.
Orochinagis
Member
Notice of the new clips dont try to show ADS at all.
I never claimed ADS wasn't in the game. I said that it was only ADS in the visual sense, which is the case.
It's a visual redesign for zoom.
Well, there's no flinch. Don't know what solution they would use instead of de-scope.
Poodlestrike
Banned
Well, there's no flinch. So while it's possible that there's no descope, they'd have to come up with something else to replace it.
Well they managed to calm some of my rage over this. Look good actually. Wish i didn't have to work tommorrow.
ArchedThunder
Banned
They've said loadouts aren't in, and if they meant they aren't in the entire game and not just one playlist I think the BR is stuck with the scope it has and then the DMR will have a real scope, makes the two weapons more different. Make the light rifle have the original 2X zoom of the BR and we're good I'd say.
Or have the classic Halo 2 BR in as well and give it a 2X zoom.
I noticed. I also noticed how those clips gave people the impression that ADS had simply disappeared. It hasn't. Most Halo encounters occur at mid-range. ADS will affect it. ADS will change it. I don't know what that means or how people will respond to it, but ya'll best believe your Halo is now a different beast altogether.
Deputy Moonman
Member
That's cool. I don't have a ps4 and didn't have an xbox one until the sunset overdrive bundle came out. I got sucked in lol. Most of my real life friends actually went the ps4 route. Several games I'd be interested in playing on the ps4 though - the last of us, uncharted, and bloodborne. I'll probably just do the wait and see game for now. I have yet to play destiny. Seems to be quite a few positives that can be built on. So there's that too.
RowdyReverb
Member
There is a fever going around, and the only cure is H5 Beta footage tomorrow.
Fahzgoolin
Banned
The ADS people are worried about aren't in. It's a new visual affect instead of the old. That's what's saying.
Poodlestrike
Banned
If it really is cosmetic (as seems to be the case), it shouldn't be too hard to fix.
Much, much more optimistic now
I saw that, and what that insider knows comes from whatever they're showing on Monday, which is evidently very "esports"-centric. Doesn't address what the full game is going to be like.
GringoSuave89
Banned
ArchedThunder
Banned
1. It appears only weapons with sights have "ADS"
2. If you are talking about the SMG, he didn't fire a grenade, he thrusted backwards.
3. Yup, but I can deal I guess...
4. Yup again, hopefully they change it since it appears ADS functions the same as scoping.
5. Yup, but of all the retcons that Halo has had over the years this is a pretty minor one, especially if we're lucky and they reskin scoping to look like it used to.
FatMarshall
Neo Member
So I've calmed down, and I just have two questions.
One, what time exactly will the official footage be shown on Monday?
Two, what is the to-the-hour deadline for preorder cancellations at Gamestop?
One, what time exactly will the official footage be shown on Monday?
Two, what is the to-the-hour deadline for preorder cancellations at Gamestop?
Demoncarnotaur
Member
Anyways, lets not forget from this weeks earlier leaks we also have:
-No loadouts, no armor abilities.
New 'Spartan abilities' that everyone always has:
-Double jump
-Thruster pack
-sprinting
-'sprint melee/tackle'
-'ground pound' melee
-the ability to vault/climb over objects via an animation when jumping
-No loadouts, no armor abilities.
New 'Spartan abilities' that everyone always has:
-Double jump
-Thruster pack
-sprinting
-'sprint melee/tackle'
-'ground pound' melee
-the ability to vault/climb over objects via an animation when jumping
GringoSuave89
Banned
1) stream starts 9 PM PT, IGN made it sound like H5 footage starts a 10 PM PT
2) For a refund? I'd imagine at least two days notice.
Ein Bear
Member
Were it so easy.
Poodlestrike
Banned
What'd be cool is if they let you pick which player you watched, and whether you listened to the team chat or the announcers. Maybe even have a "custom" and "curated" view, where the latter would work the way it does now, and the former would let you decide what you watch and listen to.
Ragnarok Flames
Banned
if it isnt ADS then whats the fucking point in Changing the scope animation?
change for the sake of attracting a group of people that will tank the population in a week.
change for the sake of attracting a group of people that will tank the population in a week.
Ricky Ricardo
Member
Sooo ... is Halo dead?
GringoSuave89
Banned
I feel like that's what the Halo Channel functionality will bring. Wish they discussed it more.
Soooooo dad.
I'm on the fence now.
It looks like it COULD work, but if after the beta they don't take out sprint and increase movement speed instead, I'm selling that shit ON STREAM.
RowdyReverb
Member
I think cosmetic ADS for zoom without movement penalty is a perfect middle ground between modern FPS design and classic Halo. Some trends are just inescapable if games want to stay relevant and sell millions.