Prinz Eugn
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Hoooollly shit, connections can still be an issue. Playing with a cross-country party is still somewhat harrowing.
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Halo |OT 21| Battle is the Great Redeemer | LIVE. DIE. RESPAWN.
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ViewtifulJC
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RebornYeti
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Crosspost from the Beta thread:
It is known.
Little things for sure. And stuff before the 29th. Right now is a shakeout test.
Kibbles
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Yay that's one of my big issues as well.
Agreed with essentially all of this, good write-up. I like the way Empire plays with the various different visual cues, but I agree it can be hard to tell the difference between Pink and Tower in Truth because of the art direction. I have always loved how "clean" Halo 3 looked (seen in that picture you posted) and I hope they tone down some of the bloom and make it so the visuals don't hamper shooting or locating enemies which is occasionally the case currently.
Sniper Rifle just feels bad all around. I'd be happy if they took it straight from H2A and put it in H5. Agreed that Smart Scope feels natural and I really have no issues with it. Autos could be tuned down a little bit but having competent automatics just adds another layer to the game, as opposed to a match being absolutely dominated by precision weapons... you have a chance off the spawn with the AR/Magnum, which keeps things competitive right away.
The ranking system needs to be expanded/explained more but I like that ranks are displayed prominently... I just hope that there is more distinction between what rank you ACTUALLY are in future versions. (show me with a symbol who is Onyx I vs. Onyx III, etc.) Overall though, I'm really digging it.
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Good to hear.
Regret Upon Approval
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Well, we'll know for sure if Frankles weighs in.
ViewtifulJC
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Yessss
The other issue I hope can be fixed before 29th is kill cams.
I'd like to disable them or make them a button press to bring up.... but even then the issue with them is the recorded gameplay from the kill cam is NOTHING. It shows basically the bullet that killed you and nothing else.
There have been times where I didn't understand how someone killed me, how they got to me, etc. But the kill cam doesn't show enough
FUNKNOWN iXi
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29-7-10, game ends 50-44 and we win; we were down a guy too. When there's no input lag or hit registration issues, the game's obviously more fun, BUT motion tracker is the bane of my existence. I find myself watching my motion tracker too much when I should be solely focusing on my surroundings and being effective with all the mobility options. Motion tracker, I feel, may make it such that lesser-skilled players feel they may have to choose one over the other, inhibiting their skill progression.
What's the problem without motion tracker? Why can't they just test it out and give us 100% no radar and see the feedback from that? New game, another chance to groom Halo players without motion tracker but nope.. Still the same despite the legitimate arguments made against it. If 343 is serious about creating a competitive Halo multiplayer, then they need to axe motion tracker.
What's the problem without motion tracker? Why can't they just test it out and give us 100% no radar and see the feedback from that? New game, another chance to groom Halo players without motion tracker but nope.. Still the same despite the legitimate arguments made against it. If 343 is serious about creating a competitive Halo multiplayer, then they need to axe motion tracker.
Poodlestrike
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You can start out at Onyx, or even semi-pro. It depends how well you do during your qualifying matches. W/L is what matters here, not KDA.
User 73706
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ur bad
That seems kind of backwards to me. I still have better W/L then most Onyx players I've checked, (39 wins out of 50 matches), but because I did bad in my first 9 matches, I get stuck at rank Silver?
Probably because you're playing silver ranked people?
ViewtifulJC
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I don't understand what this is implying
edit* Oh, you mean I have better stats because I'm playing with silver ranked? Pretty sure most matches I've been playing have all been mixed with Silver, Gold, and Onyx.
FUNKNOWN iXi
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Cross posting from the Halo 5 thread. Thoughts?
Syphon Filter
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uhhh
Not surprised they lied.
My issue with things like Hover, Ground Pound, Slide is that if you can go 30 matches without seeing these mechanics in action or using them yourselves, why even include them in the game?
I've come around on clamber, even though it has eliminated the skill of crouch jumps, or even normal jumps. Most stuff that you needed to jump for before, is now able to be ledge grabbed in a sense.
Thruster is good, as is the charge. I dislike sprint. One match with prophets bane on Truth, felt like I was playing Mirrors Edge or something. Probably did 25 laps around a circle full sprint barely stopping. Base movement without sprint feels a bit too slow.
The worst offender is ADS. In a cluttered game where it's already harder to distinguish players especially at distance, it's unnecessary. It feels clunky coming out of sprint or clamber and having to ADS to aim further. Completely makes automatics overpowered at everything upto mid range. DMR is basically useless because of scope, unless there is a large open field for maps, I'd never pick it up, making do with the pistol or BR. I hate ADS so much I only hip fire. But this puts me at a disadvantage because I need to ADS to see or shooter further. Give me back classic click/zoom anyday. To me, ADS in Halo 5 will be flinch in Halo 4. I can play with it, but it will always make the gameplay and gunplay feel disappointing.
I've come around on clamber, even though it has eliminated the skill of crouch jumps, or even normal jumps. Most stuff that you needed to jump for before, is now able to be ledge grabbed in a sense.
Thruster is good, as is the charge. I dislike sprint. One match with prophets bane on Truth, felt like I was playing Mirrors Edge or something. Probably did 25 laps around a circle full sprint barely stopping. Base movement without sprint feels a bit too slow.
The worst offender is ADS. In a cluttered game where it's already harder to distinguish players especially at distance, it's unnecessary. It feels clunky coming out of sprint or clamber and having to ADS to aim further. Completely makes automatics overpowered at everything upto mid range. DMR is basically useless because of scope, unless there is a large open field for maps, I'd never pick it up, making do with the pistol or BR. I hate ADS so much I only hip fire. But this puts me at a disadvantage because I need to ADS to see or shooter further. Give me back classic click/zoom anyday. To me, ADS in Halo 5 will be flinch in Halo 4. I can play with it, but it will always make the gameplay and gunplay feel disappointing.
NobleGundam
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I'd like a covenant version of the shotgun.
Plasma based cqc shotty with an alternate firing when using smart scope that adds a skill gap to it when using the alternate mode it has a rapid fire but increases bullet spread.
Descope negates rapid fire.
Plasma based cqc shotty with an alternate firing when using smart scope that adds a skill gap to it when using the alternate mode it has a rapid fire but increases bullet spread.
Descope negates rapid fire.
ViewtifulJC
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If I had to guess, Thruster is far and away the most well-received of all the new additions
Welfare
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It's also the only one that is used besides clamber.
Poodlestrike
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Man, the "letter from Bonnie Ross" thread has gone full toxic.
I don't think I've seen slide once except for during the 343 stream when Enable was doing it. He was doing it like it increased movement speed (which I believe it does in AW, which might just be a habit for him since he has been grinding that game) so that might be a use for slide. Also apparently Ninja was able to use ground pound for movement.
edit: By the way I don't have access to the beta so you all with access need to be mentioning how dumb grenade hitmarkers are, too.
biosnake20
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So broadly the damage is the same. Can you give me an example of a behavioural change between hip-fire and Smart Scope?
Tim Longo: Spread. Spread of bullets.
Josh Holmes: For example, the SMG, which you might have used, when you free-fire it, it has a very wide spread. When you go into Smart Scope there's a slight narrowing of the spread.
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No motion tracker is bad. I think it makes the game for the worse when you're playing with randoms. There's no cohesion. Obviously this is just by my experience in other Halos but I don't see why this one would be any different
Wouldn't be opposed to having like a competitive playlist with it disabled. But as default? Not a game I'd ever want to play. Opinions and all that
FUNKNOWN iXi
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But we have Spartan chatter now, lots of it. We have timers for power weapons and call-outs for those too. So much info on action and feedback as to what's going on in the match without the need for motion tracker.
Spartan Callouts and better audio cues marginalize the need for Motion tracker imo.
It's objectively better Halo with the right players, so if Spartan Chatter is tuned to be actually useful info, then even with randoms, it would still be fine to play without motion tracker.
Makes for sicker plays with the new movement abilities anyway.
Gnome Scat
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I think he means when they said ADS is purely cosmetic.
To be fair sometimes people just play really bad. :/
Then again, don't think my bad game was ever as bad as 3-13
TheOhrenberger.
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I've been getting matched against people who shouldn't be matching up with me. I kind of feel bad sometimes when my team wins 50-10. It's not because I'm some god at halo either (I'm above average at best), but I'm just getting matched up with unranked people. It's less of a problem for me and more of a problem for them. The game is much less enjoyable when you're losing like that.
I've seen very few gold/onyx players on the other team.
It makes evading and engaging so much more fun and (cringe) dynamic. Thrusting to the side to throw off an enemy and popping off one or two more shots to finish the kill is so damn satisfying.
does the DMR have a farther range than the BR with aim assist mechanics when not zoomed?
That might be part of what makes it so good, not having to ADS to hit midrange shots with consistency.
I think DMR had a farther range in H4 as well. I remember always using it for distance kills in h4 and the battle rifle for close quarter combat
FUNKNOWN iXi
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I think it more has to do with the DMR being single shot and better for range than the BR. Don't really have to ADS all too much if you set up in good positions, but I did pull this off for a kill lol (Stabilize + DMR from close range).
DMR better not get a nerf though.. The gun is sexy.
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Counterproductive to the mobility options we have at our disposal.
KidA Seven
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Radar is trash. It makes it harder to sneak behind the other team, slows the game down, and makes it easier for campers.
Deadly Cyclone
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Nah. Learn to use it.
FUNKNOWN iXi
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lol
Probably why I'm scrub-tier Iron right now, almost Gold. I don't know, I just don't see myself picking it up at all. BR gets the job done and also doesn't clutter up your screen with the scope. I have always loved the DMR, I love single shot precision weapons better than burst fire, but so far, haven't really found the DMR to be much help. Pistol, BR, SMG basically carry you for any situation in the maps so far.
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