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[FUNKNOWN iXi]

In the streams I watched and games I've played, I rarely ever saw a lesser skilled player use anything but the BR (probably because they think they already spawn with the best weapon, although it's really not), nor did I see some of the pro players even touch the Hydra, not to mention how easy it is to avoid shots. That's what I was referring, but personally I try to switch out the Magnum whenever I can because other weapons are better.

If BR starts are to remain, the Magnum wouldn't need that much of a buff because it's a weapon you want to replace for a better one (every weapon). If BR/AR starts, might as well just remove the Magnum from the sandbox or make it the Breakout weapon lol

 

[jem0208]

Even though I love you guys, I laugh at any ce fan who's against br starts

Map movement is far more interesting with AR starts and the sandbox usage is also far more interesting with AR starts. Buff the pistol slightly and it would be perfect.

The last few days of the beta has been nothing but BRs and it's boring. We've had 10 years of nothing but boring BRs. It's nice to see that change.

 

[IHaveIce]

Magnum being the go to Breakout weapon would be for the best, and no BR at all in that mode

Edit: ok Jem you done it. You will take a break for me

 

[VinFTW]

Map movement is far more interesting with AR starts and the sandbox usage is also far more interesting with AR starts. Buff the pistol slightly and it would be perfect.

The last few days of the beta has been nothing but BRs and it's boring. We've had 10 years of nothing but boring BRs. It's nice to see that change.

If you want to see the game die, make it ar starts, that way people leave and by the time they correct that mistake and make it br starts, everybody will be gone.
Still think ar/br starts would be fine and a buffed pistol should be added.

 

[Ramirez]

Map movement has returned.

 

[Prinz Eugn]

Map movement is far more interesting with AR starts and the sandbox usage is also far more interesting with AR starts. Buff the pistol slightly and it would be perfect.

The last few days of the beta has been nothing but BRs and it's boring. We've had 10 years of nothing but boring BRs. It's nice to see that change.

Boring BR's? If you think spray and pray encounters are more fun... wait

jem

have you, uh


have you not gotten a headshot before?


its okay you can tell us

 

[MaGlock]

Halo CE pistol for power weapon.

 

[Overdoziz]

Halo 5 Forge is still placing grey blocks?
Maybe Halo 6...

 

[Ozzy Onya A2Z]

Here's a nice stabilizer kill, from 16secs, don't mind the lag on the kill/headshot registering I'm enjoying this mechanic but it has sparing use. Anyone using it to hover over a grenade they would've landed in?

http://xboxclips.com/Ozzy+Onya+A2Z/d5229dc2-0dca-45d3-b0d1-0aebcd8078e2

Edit: might as well put up some clips from last night. The connections on games last night were brilliant, the beta really took another step up in terms of gameplay enjoyment with solid connections for me.

Nice hat-trick
http://xboxclips.com/Ozzy+Onya+A2Z/18e16bbc-01a9-4e5b-90b5-8185413326b4

I like radar, sword vs. sword (from 12secs)
http://xboxclips.com/Ozzy+Onya+A2Z/2e2e8117-9854-4730-a22d-da1135e30356


An older clip but man did I want to pull a win on this game, got a game saver medal/announcement to complete a killing frenzy but couldn't carry my team to victory at the final post.
http://xboxclips.com/Ozzy+Onya+A2Z/b6cdc779-1104-46b4-806c-af1ba101aae3

A quick scoped followed up with a snapshot
http://xboxclips.com/Ozzy+Onya+A2Z/cb0ba2f3-7158-40bc-ae83-6abaafae19fa

Perfect close range DMR beats AR
http://xboxclips.com/Ozzy+Onya+A2Z/77dd8c52-8581-4066-a1a5-e1ecc1dcc10d

Evade sniper, flank, perfect DMR kill
http://xboxclips.com/Ozzy+Onya+A2Z/f8af3570-bcf8-43cf-8984-6752fcf6fb11

 

[m23]

Map movement is far more interesting with AR starts and the sandbox usage is also far more interesting with AR starts. Buff the pistol slightly and it would be perfect.

The last few days of the beta has been nothing but BRs and it's boring. We've had 10 years of nothing but boring BRs. It's nice to see that change.

Tell us the truth, are you getting #rekt?

Okay, so I'm going to give this a go.

If you want in, either post your clips here for my attention (I lurk and read every post, every day, because I'm very sad like that) or perhaps more sensibly, PM me.

Format of your post/PM:

Please include your Gamertag

Clip description (Example: Double kill noscope) and then the link (use Xboxclips.com is probably the easiest way)

If you have what I would describe as a blooper clip (i.e something funny rather than skilled gameplay) send them too - if there's enough, I'll do a two part montage.

I'll collect clips from everyone right up until the end of the beta, then get straight to work.



Also, feel free to suggest a good name for the thing.

PM'd you a few.

 

[User 73706]

Boring BR's? If you think spray and pray encounters are more fun... wait

jem

have you, uh


have you not gotten a headshot before?


its okay you can tell us

well to be fair he's the only one that had to ask me where Bronze tier was on the survey

 

[Enter The 36 Chambers]

I've been watching streams of players ranging from pro to not-so-pro and all they've been using is the BR too. Boring to watch, boring to play.

I'm interested to see how much the BR is used over the other weapons between each week.


EDIT:
"Waypoint idiots" are better than "BR idiots" who started with Halo 2 or Halo 3 and think those games are ideal for Halo's design going forward.

See how that works? Less insulting, more using your words.

I started with CE and still prefer BR starts.

I'll wait till the game is out, but AR/SMG starts will kill any interest I have in Arena gametypes. I didn't enjoy week 1 remotely as much as Im enjoying this week.


The BR is the gears equivalent of the Gnasher. Other weapons must still be viable, but the main weapon should be the BR.

 

[FUNKNOWN iXi]

Main weapon should be the Magnum, you mean.

Halo is classy and exciting when the Magnum is great. Look how excited people were when Halo 5 launched with Magnum/AR starts and they thought the Magnum was effective. Time passes and they realize how it's not as good as they initially thought, and here we are again battling between BR vs AR when the answer lies within the Magnum.

 

[belushy]

Halo 5 Forge is still placing grey blocks?
Maybe Halo 6...

Halo 3 Anniversary

 

[Granadier]

Okay, so I'm going to give this a go.

If you want in, either post your clips here for my attention (I lurk and read every post, every day, because I'm very sad like that) or perhaps more sensibly, PM me.

Format of your post/PM:

Please include your Gamertag

Clip description (Example: Double kill noscope) and then the link (use Xboxclips.com is probably the easiest way)

If you have what I would describe as a blooper clip (i.e something funny rather than skilled gameplay) send them too - if there's enough, I'll do a two part montage.

I'll collect clips from everyone right up until the end of the beta, then get straight to work.



Also, feel free to suggest a good name for the thing.

Did you collect the ones I sent you yesterday?

 

[jem0208]

If you want to see the game die, make it ar starts, that way people leave and by the time they correct that mistake and make it br starts, everybody will be gone.
Still think ar/br starts would be fine and a buffed pistol should be added.

If you want to see the game die, make it ar starts, that way people leave and by the time they correct that mistake and make it br starts, everybody will be gone.
Still think ar/br starts would be fine and a buffed pistol should be added.

The game won't die because of AR starts, especially considering the AR is a viable weapon now. Halo 3 had AR starts for the majority of it's lifetime and it did fine even though the AR was completely useless and boring in that game.





Halo 4 didn't have AR starts and that game died. Obviously BR starts are to blame.

Boring BR's? If you think spray and pray encounters are more fun... wait

jem

have you, uh


have you not gotten a headshot before?


its okay you can tell us

Tell us the truth, are you getting #rekt?

well to be fair he's the only one that had to ask me where Bronze tier was on the survey

I'm in Gold. Was right near Onyx but had to quit a few games and that seriously knocks you down. So no, I'm not getting wrecked, I just enjoyed the game more with AR starts.

 

[User 73706]

So no, I'm not getting wrecked, I just enjoyed the game more with AR starts.

Okay, see - I can hear you saying words, but it's like they don't match up in a way that makes sense. Did you have a stroke?

 

[Cow]

So does anyone have any idea when next MCC patch will be? Thanks for your continued patience.

 

[Impala26]

Halo CE pistol for power weapon.

Yes please!

Keyes' Magnum!

 

[Enter The 36 Chambers]

Main weapon should be the Magnum, you mean.

Halo is classy and exciting when the Magnum is great. Look how excited people were when Halo 5 launched with Magnum/AR starts and they thought the Magnum was effective. Time passes and they realize how it's not as good as they initially thought, and here we are again battling between BR vs AR when the answer lies within the Magnum.

A game where the main weapon is the Pistol is never going to happen. And it shouldn't.

Spartans all running around with a handgun as the utility weapon is a silly prospect.

 

[link1201]

Yes please!

Keyes' Magnum!

He doesn't keep it loaded though...

 

[Rev3rb]

Okay, so I'm going to give this a go.

If you want in, either post your clips here for my attention (I lurk and read every post, every day, because I'm very sad like that) or perhaps more sensibly, PM me.

Format of your post/PM:

Please include your Gamertag

Clip description (Example: Double kill noscope) and then the link (use Xboxclips.com is probably the easiest way)

If you have what I would describe as a blooper clip (i.e something funny rather than skilled gameplay) send them too - if there's enough, I'll do a two part montage.

I'll collect clips from everyone right up until the end of the beta, then get straight to work.



Also, feel free to suggest a good name for the thing.

PM'd

 

[HTupolev]

He doesn't keep it loaded though...

That's because, like Keyes' other items, it can be stored in pocket universes and has teleportation powers; he loads it by simply expecting it to become loaded. It's also the only weapon in the series that can access the mysterious 3rd weapon slot.

 

[Prinz Eugn]

The game won't die because of AR starts, especially considering the AR is a viable weapon now. Halo 3 had AR starts for the majority of it's lifetime and it did fine even though the AR was completely useless and boring in that game.

Halo 4 didn't have AR starts and that game died. Obviously BR starts are to blame.

I'm in Gold. Was right near Onyx but had to quit a few games and that seriously knocks you down. So no, I'm not getting wrecked, I just enjoyed the game more with AR starts.

The AR might not be completely useless in the Beta, but it's still random, not very skillful (thanks to the enormous hipfire spread), and boring.

Or maybe I just enjoy aiming as a gameplay component in my FPS's and should try to appreciate the fine art of holding down the trigger until bad man goes bye-bye.

 

[Enter The 36 Chambers]

Makes sense. Get continously rekt by Brs, then want AR starts.

Magnum could work if it was reskinned to be a DMR. Magnum has no place at the top of the weapon food chain anymore

I'd be for letting social slayer have AR starts. Leave the competitive lists to be centered around skill required weapons.

 

[Gabotron ES]

Halo 5 Forge is still placing grey blocks?
Maybe Halo 6...

I noticed a huge cylinder piece fully coloured in red.

 

[Welfare]

Halo 5 Forge is still placing grey blocks?
Maybe Halo 6...

Swappable textures rays:

 

[HTupolev]

Swappable textures rays:

Seeing as it's 343i, they'll probably have implemented swappable textures, but the only alternative texture is a blue-to-orange 30Hz strobe.

 

[FUNKNOWN iXi]

How can you guys talk about wanting skillful weapons and at the same time beg for BR starts? lol -- Some may find BR starts lead to boring gameplay that we've seen for too many years while others may find AR starts boring because it's an automatic weapon that's easy to use, while at the same time neglecting the Magnum's ideal role in that weapon start. Truth be told, neither weapon is crazy difficult to be really good with, so if you want to argue skill.........

Only skillful starting weapon we've had in the Beta is the Magnum.

 

[tootsi666]

How can you guys talk about wanting skillful weapons and at the same time beg for BR starts? lol -- Some may find BR starts lead to boring gameplay that we've seen for too many years while others may find AR starts boring because it's an automatic weapon that's easy to use, while at the same time neglecting the Magnum's ideal role in that weapon start. Truth be told, neither weapon is crazy difficult to be really good with, so if you want to argue skill.........

Only skillful starting weapon we've had in the Beta is the Magnum.

CE was 14 years ago. Let it go

 

[Impala26]

CE was 14 years ago. Let it go

Eh, gonna side with Funknown on this one.

Magnum Duels > BR Duels

 

[FUNKNOWN iXi]

Never.

Spoiler

But seriously, doesn't it make sense? Always has, always will. It's directly linked to Halo Happiness.

 

[Chitown B]

I literally can't find any games.

they're probably in a drawer somewhere. literally.

 

[Madness]

Eh, gonna side with Funknown on this one.

Magnum Duels > BR Duels

Except you don't seem to realize the BR has superseded what the Magnum was, so did the DMR. That's the sole reason the Magnum isn't the 3sk beast it was from CE. There is no reason to make the Magnum better because the BR and DMR fill that role.

I hate the BR and hate burst fire. Give me a DMR single shot rifle with the same kill times and even zoom any day. But to say somehow the duels are more boring is odd to me.

The CE magnum existed in a game with no BR or DMR. In a game with both of those rifles, it's foolish to think it would encroach on their roles, without introducing more redundancy in the weapons. Ultimately I think once the full game launches, magnum will kind of be obsolete in the face of BR, DMR, Carbine, Lightrifle or whatever else they decide to be a mid to long weapon.

 

[Chitown B]

Ah okay.


That's something I've noticed as well actually. The sheer distance you can travel with a single jump is pretty crazy, combine sprint jumps with thrusters and clamber and you can cross half the map.

on the flipside, unfortunately this is why all maps are gigantic now.

 

[Brolic Gaoler]

Posted?



From the IGN thing. New Rocket launcher is ass.

It's basically a lock on more powerful brute shot m

 

[Chitown B]

After switching to Recon (thanks Hyper!), I'm coming round on the beta.
Some general thoughts:

• Spawns are sometimes a bit iffy
• I need recon & bumper jumper to have a baby, there is too much functionality on the face buttons with recon
• I rarely, if ever use the offensive charge, ground pound or stabilisers. Even sprint, especially being on A, is something I rarely initiate
• I find Eden confusing, almost a few too many routes, might feel better with age?
• Killcams need to be optional
• 'The' Halo respawn sound effect seems to be played when using certain menus, no thanks
• Apparently the death music can be turned off, I should do this

Sad thing is, without my old Halo crew [</3] I wonder how much I'll play when September / November comes around

Spawns can suck. I've gotten spawned right in front of a rushing enemy more times than I can count.

I like face buttons.

Sprint, on Recon, is X not A

Eden is too dark and closed off.

Killcams suck and should be removed. I want to see my body and be able to help call out while I'm dead.

Death music?

 

[aHebrewMenagerie]

Halo |OT22| Hail Hydra!

Halo |OT22| Funknown's Magnum Opus

Halo |OT22| Funknown's Magical Magnum Emporium

Halo |OT22| #butts

Halo |OT22| Wood Tier Incoming!

Halo |OT22| Smart Down Sights

Spoiler

yes i know they're all bad, i just want to get the train rolling

 

[FUNKNOWN iXi]

Why is it foolish to think the Magnum could be improved without making it redundant with the BR and DMR? Both of those weapons would outclass it at range (mind you, ranged combat improved significantly in this game overall).

As is, might as well just remove the Magnum from the sandbox and give us BR/AR spawns. Alternatively, they could make the BR a 3x weapon that would be balanced by its burst fire at range, meaning the DMR could then be removed. That won't happen, so we're doomed to this discussion of AR vs BR until the Magnum is a legitimate weapon.

It's not rocket science and it's not blind fanboyism to a game that was created 14 years ago. It's what would work best, plain and simple. People hate the BR because of what the gameplay turns into, something we've experienced for the past 10 years (Halo 3 didn't disappear when Reach came out, but if you want, then 8 of the 10 years), and people rightfully hate the current AR/Magnum starts because the Magnum isn't effective at range and is too weak.


Halo |OT22| TMCC Won't Let Me Be, So Let CE Magnum Be And You Will See

Spoiler

3

Spoiler

sk

/10

 

[Cow]

Well forge in Halo 5 looks extremely underwhelming. Was hoping they'd go full on terrain editor, with convenant and human pieces that can be edited in size.

 

[Chitown B]

Why is it foolish to think the Magnum could be improved without making it redundant with the BR and DMR? Both of those weapons would outclass it at range (mind you, ranged combat improved significantly in this game overall).

As is, might as well just remove the Magnum from the sandbox and give us BR/AR spawns. Alternatively, they could make the BR a 3x weapon that would be balanced by its burst fire at range, meaning the DMR could then be removed. That won't happen, so we're doomed to this discussion of AR vs BR until the Magnum is a legitimate weapon.

It's not rocket science and it's not blind fanboyism to a game that was created 14 years ago. It's what would work best, plain and simple. People hate the BR because of what the gameplay turns into, something we've experienced for the past 10 years (Halo 3 didn't disappear when Reach came out, but if you want, then 8 of the 10 years), and people rightfully hate the current AR/Magnum starts because the Magnum isn't effective at range and is too weak.


Halo |OT22| TMCC Won't Let Me Be, So Let CE Magnum Be And You Will See

The magnum is already a 5sk. Like the BR if you don't shoot perfectly. I don't think it's underpowered - it fires way faster than any other gun.

Well forge in Halo 5 looks extremely underwhelming. Was hoping they'd go full on terrain editor, with convenant and human pieces that can be edited in size.

It's 11+ months out.

 

[Enter The 36 Chambers]

BR starts are far from boring to me.

Yeah anyone can get good with a BR with enough practice with it. To say there isn't much skill involved is silly. There's fewer things more satisfying than communication with your team, and wiping a whole team in an encounter and landing well aimed BR team shots. We've all been using this weapon for 10 years now, you can't be using the thing this long and not know how to use it. Beginners soon enough figure out the starting weapon (BR) is the preferred weapon (seeing how many people use them effectively) and can then start learning how to be better with it.

One on one BR duels are a huge test of skill. If someone misses a shot on me, that could allow me to outplay him and get the kill, after being in an encounter I was more likely to lose. There's a lot of skill involved in duels. Everytime i lose a duel I think "what did he do better than me?" identify what I did wrong and try integrate that into how I play so I can get better. I always want to get better when playing halo. The precision weapon is much more skill demanding than hold the trigger down and spray bullets with random bullet spread luck, to win.

Good weapon balancing will hopefully take care of the rest. The BR should be the starting weapon, but not overly powerful to where it's always the best choice in different situations, power weapons being power weapons etc.

AR/SMG starts are bad.
Magnum can stay the way it is right now, I think it's fine.

 

[Cow]

It's 11+ months out.

I doubt much will change.

 

[FUNKNOWN iXi]

Magnum is a 6sk with terrible range in a game where every weapon has good range.

Haven't tested the 5sk headshot bonus damage Defect mentioned though.

 

[Ramirez]

Man you guys are crazy, BR starts are fucking awful. What's the point of any other weapon when you start with it? It just ruins the flow of a typical halo match, "sniper rifle in 10 seconds" who gives a fuck when you can outsnipe the guy with the sniper rifle with your default weapon?

So fucking boring.

Yea, I'd rather be completely defenseless against the sniper with my AR!

 

[Ozzy Onya A2Z]

Halo |OT22| Beta, Better...Best

 

[Enter The 36 Chambers]

Do we know whats gonna be the starting weapon for week 3?

 

[VisceralBowl]

Halo |OT22| TMCC Won't Let Me Be, So Let CE Magnum Be And You Will See

lol, I might change it to this.

Also, wrong number.

 

[aHebrewMenagerie]

Do we know whats gonna be the starting weapon for week 3?

DMR i think

 

[Impala26]

Halo |OT22| Funknown's Magnum Opus

Consider me a fan.