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Halo |OT 23| Thruster is Love, Thruster is Life

Host check thingy appears to work. You can also change lobby privacy there and invite friends too. Didn't even know that was there. Currently worked for the two lobbies I've been put in for MCC H4 playlist.
 
Host check thingy appears to work. You can also change lobby privacy there and invite friends too. Didn't even know that was there. Currently worked for the two lobbies I've been put in for MCC H4 playlist.

Party lead in customs doesn't necessarily mean host. Are we sure it isn't showing a provisional 'party leader' in a random MM match, this being MCC an all? What does it show when a match is on dedicated servers?
 

RowdyReverb

Member
Good news, I hope it's real. I still don't understand why developers won't show who is host or specifically what server/region you're on. It's vital player information. I'll be trying this out later tonight, if matchmaking will be so kind as to actually put me in a game.
They're probably afraid of someone figuring out a way to use the information for network manipulation or other such trickery. Not so much the server/region, but host identification
 
Party lead in customs doesn't necessarily mean host. Are we sure it isn't showing a provisional 'party leader' in a random MM match, this being MCC an all? What does it show when a match is on dedicated servers?

This was matchmaking as a solo. Game 1 showed my GT as session leader then game 2 showed some other player's GT as the session leader, who was in the second game. Here's the vids:

Me as session leader-
http://xboxclips.com/Ozzy+Onya+A2Z/543b021e-2ded-4993-8760-260a40a75237

Matched player as session leader-
http://xboxclips.com/Ozzy+Onya+A2Z/aa1412b9-ba39-4f5f-9210-3501b926f512

It even shows their party as closed. As for dedis I have no idea mate. I imagine this system will change with the new updates anyhow.

They're probably afraid of someone figuring out a way to use the information for network manipulation or other such trickery. Not so much the server/region, but host identification

Anyone that knows to cheat will have simple network traffic monitoring for server or client host IP addresses in a flash. They can't hide that stuff regardless.
 
I never thought Id go from being so pumped to play with thousands of people through all 4 halo games to wondering if when its fixed if there will be anyone left to play with.

This game is gonna need some games with gold/deals with gold discounts REAL soon to get people back on board.

Watch them discount it in like august/september just to get people hyped for h5
 

op_ivy

Fallen Xbot (cannot continue gaining levels in this class)
Hold on to ya butts.

looking forward to this. a great deal actually. hope its meaty with lots of stats, honest with what went wrong or needs attention, and teases things to come.

also, new footage.

thats not asking to much is it?
 

willow ve

Member
I never thought Id go from being so pumped to play with thousands of people through all 4 halo games to wondering if when its fixed if there will be anyone left to play with.

This game is gonna need some games with gold/deals with gold discounts REAL soon to get people back on board.

Watch them discount it in like august/september just to get people hyped for h5

Discount won't move the population. I say give it away for free with Games with Gold.

People that bought the game get ODST as free DLC.
People that get MCC with Games with Gold can purchase ODST for $5.
 
I have an Xbox One now and I've read HaloMCC is still a broken mess 3 months after release, what in the hell

I figured by now it would be safe to jump in, hopefully by Halo 5 release they get this game functioning

I never thought Id go from being so pumped to play with thousands of people through all 4 halo games to wondering if when its fixed if there will be anyone left to play with.

This game is gonna need some games with gold/deals with gold discounts REAL soon to get people back on board.

Watch them discount it in like august/september just to get people hyped for h5

I'll be one of those people waiting for a heavy discount or games with gold.
 

DJ Gunner

Member
Party lead in customs doesn't necessarily mean host. Are we sure it isn't showing a provisional 'party leader' in a random MM match, this being MCC an all? What does it show when a match is on dedicated servers?

AFAIK in the MCC, party lead will always have host in customs. At least, as of a month or so ago, the last time we played customs.
 
I think I posted this in another thread, but if I were in 343's position, I would release the Halo Multiplayer Suite as a GWG separate download once they have finally fixed the game.

People could but the full MCC suit for a discounted rate, or just play the multiplayer for free, forever.

I really hope they do this - would give the game such a population boost.
 
I think I posted this in another thread, but if I were in 343's position, I would release the Halo Multiplayer Suite as a GWG separate download once they have finally fixed the game.

People could but the full MCC suit for a discounted rate, or just play the multiplayer for free, forever.

I really hope they do this - would give the game such a population boost.

That idea makes too much sense, but I doubt they'd do that as they're all too happy with the unsuspecting customer walking into a store a casually spending $60 on the game
 

TTUVAPOR

Banned
This Josh Holmes blog for Halo 5 lessons learned better be good.

I have a feeling though that the changes or data learned isn't going to reflect what us core Halo players want out of Halo 5.

  • Sprint will probably remain in the game...hoping for toggle
  • Aiming down the sights will probably remain in the game...probably will not get a toggle for classic zoom
  • Full-auto weapons with smart scope will probably get slight adjustments, but I think the smart scope buff bonus is going to stay with them
  • Time to kill better not be nerfed...if anything, I'd rather see an increase, meaning kill FASTER
  • Default starting weapons...I'm really hoping they do AR/BR starts across the board...god help us if they say AR/Pistol is the default

With the Halo 5 feedback surveys emailed out...the questions were so specific...I can't help but have a glimmer of hope they're genuinely going to listen to the feedback via those surveys....because the answers are going to be there in pure black and white...so to me, if the surveys show a strong push for NO SPRINT...I will be disappointed if they completely ignore it and force sprint upon us.

Toggling sprint will help for custom games...but for matchmaking...it's going to be a nightmare...I mean, we already have too many community splits with things in Halo...this will only add fuel to the fire.
 

GrizzNKev

Banned
This Josh Holmes blog for Halo 5 lessons learned better be good.

I have a feeling though that the changes or data learned isn't going to reflect what us core Halo players want out of Halo 5.

  • Sprint will probably remain in the game...hoping for toggle
  • Aiming down the sights will probably remain in the game...probably will not get a toggle for classic zoom
  • Full-auto weapons with smart scope will probably get slight adjustments, but I think the smart scope buff bonus is going to stay with them
  • Time to kill better not be nerfed...if anything, I'd rather see an increase, meaning kill FASTER
  • Default starting weapons...I'm really hoping they do AR/BR starts across the board...god help us if they say AR/Pistol is the default

With the Halo 5 feedback surveys emailed out...the questions were so specific...I can't help but have a glimmer of hope they're genuinely going to listen to the feedback via those surveys....because the answers are going to be there in pure black and white...so to me, if the surveys show a strong push for NO SPRINT...I will be disappointed if they completely ignore it and force sprint upon us.

Toggling sprint will help for custom games...but for matchmaking...it's going to be a nightmare...I mean, we already have too many community splits with things in Halo...this will only add fuel to the fire.

They are not removing sprint. They are not redesigning all of the maps.
 

TTUVAPOR

Banned
They are not removing sprint. They are not redesigning all of the maps.

If the make it a toggle though, it can easily be negated with faster player movement speed.

EDIT: I wonder what the speed was for sprint? If we were to use 100% player movement speed as the base...what percent increase does sprint actually provide?
 

Granadier

Is currently on Stage 1: Denial regarding the service game future
If the make it a toggle though, it can easily be negated with faster player movement speed.

EDIT: I wonder what the speed was for sprint? If we were to use 100% player movement speed as the base...what percent increase does sprint actually provide?

Probably 125%
 

TTUVAPOR

Banned
Probably 125%

So...if we were to know what sprint speed is...and if we consider that too fast...why not do something like this:

If base speed is 100%
Sprint makes it 125%

Make base speed 115% to 120%? This will make for a fast player movement speed, plus the trusters will still allow for large gap jumps...especially with clamber in effect.

I wouldn't mind it personally.
 
That idea makes too much sense, but I doubt they'd do that as they're all too happy with the unsuspecting customer walking into a store a casually spending $60 on the game

Yeah...but I think they need to weigh up what's worth more - goodwill or a few more sales on an already "broken" game.
 
*puts on flame suit*

I enjoyed the Halo 5 beta, and don't want to change anything aside from up the base walking speed a smidge and some weapon balance tweaks.

Come at me bros.

Played a few games of MCC last night...man it felt so fecking slow.

And believe, I'm a purist Halo nerd.

Halo 5 beta was good. I want more.
 

Computer

Member
*puts on flame suit*

I enjoyed the Halo 5 beta, and don't want to change anything aside from up the base walking speed a smidge and some weapon balance tweaks.

Come at me bros.

Played a few games of MCC last night...man it felt so fecking slow.

And believe, I'm a purist Halo nerd.

Halo 5 beta was good. I want more.

I will walk into the flames by your side. Feels like Halo or not it was fun.
 

jem0208

Member
*puts on flame suit*

I enjoyed the Halo 5 beta, and don't want to change anything aside from up the base walking speed a smidge and some weapon balance tweaks.

Come at me bros.

Played a few games of MCC last night...man it felt so fecking slow.

And believe, I'm a purist Halo nerd.

Halo 5 beta was good. I want more.

Ooh, watch out. Some people here don't like it when you disagree with them. They'll get angry and try to insult you over the Internet ;)


I agree though, 5's beta was fantastic. Regardless of how different it was to classic Halo, I thought it was extremely fun.


What do you mean, "some people"???

Oh no one in particular...
 

SaganIsGOAT

Junior Member
Ooh, watch out. Some people here don't like it when you disagree with them. They'll get angry and try to insult you over the Internet.


I agree though, 5's beta was fantastic. Regardless of how different it was to classic Halo, I thought it was extremely fun.

What do you mean, "some people"???
 

Impala26

Member
*puts on flame suit*

I enjoyed the Halo 5 beta, and don't want to change anything aside from up the base walking speed a smidge and some weapon balance tweaks.

Come at me bros.

Played a few games of MCC last night...man it felt so fecking slow.

And believe, I'm a purist Halo nerd.

Halo 5 beta was good. I want more.

No need. I was pleasantly surprised that a noticeable majority of regular posters on here lauded Halo 5 or a the very least seemed to be of the "with a few tweaks this game piques at greatness" mindset.

It was the most Halo fun I've had in a long while, I'd have to go back to the early days of Reach to remember a time where I was so enthralled with Halo and constantly had to fight that "just one more game" urge. Halo 5 is definitely a marked improvement of Halo 4 to be sure.
 
*puts on flame suit*

I enjoyed the Halo 5 beta, and don't want to change anything aside from up the base walking speed a smidge and some weapon balance tweaks.

Come at me bros.

Played a few games of MCC last night...man it felt so fecking slow.

And believe, I'm a purist Halo nerd.

Halo 5 beta was good. I want more.

I can accept that going forward, there would be changes in Halo 5, since the lore has this 5 + years later.

However, only if they would do as they promised with the MCC, give us the original games as we remember them. That includes:
<> being able to play with friends,
<> party up with players you met in game in the lobby afterwards,
<>have people be able to join each other's custom games and Forge sessions that are already started.

It also means:
<> the forge or better than we remember with objective placements,
<> being able to see who is talking in game in matchmaking,
<> clans and proximity chat in Halo 2.

Fix all that, Microsoft might, MIGHT have my dollar for Halo 5.
 

Stinkles

Clothed, sober, cooperative
Stay tuned. Meltdown or Rage!

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Fuchsdh

Member
Seems like there's nothing to actually complain about in here. Toggles are being provided for customs, sprint is being nerfed, strafing increased, chatter is optional, fewer medals...

That means everyone will complain.

Only complaint I had I don't see being addressed was to return to more traditional SFX for shield strength.

Thanks for the writeup, Josh.
 

Impala26

Member

"It is important that we continue to evolve Halo multiplayer while ensuring that legacy Halo players feel right at home. As a result, I&#8217;m happy to say that we will provide toggles in custom games so that sprint and the other Spartan Abilities can be turned off. By putting these tools in the hands of players we will give them the ability to play the game their way, enabling them to create a more traditional style of Halo if they prefer."

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