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Halo |OT 24| In Before the Locke
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wesleyshark
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I've said it before and I'll say it again: Destiny is the worst game that I cannot stop playing. B)
Actually... I just really enjoy it *shrugs*
JumPeRJumPzZ
Banned
But someone at 343 is really loving this guy
http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/_...nsformers/nl/images/1/1a/Megatron_profiel.jpg
Everytime a look at this new Promethean Soldiers, i see his face xD
http://images1.wikia.nocookie.net/_...nsformers/nl/images/1/1a/Megatron_profiel.jpg
Everytime a look at this new Promethean Soldiers, i see his face xD
They totally riffed on that old concept art for the DLC Halo 4 armor too (which I loved). Weird that they've kept the designs so different, even in the games they have themselves produced.
Fahzgoolin
Banned
That happened to me too. In fact, I had two quizzes on my first day of Calc 2.
I dropped. No way am I suffering in my summer for that crap.
wesleyshark
Banned
MrGreencastle
Member
Haha, I complained and complained and still complain about that. I was just hushed up by people and told that if I were a "true fan" of Bungie, I would have paid attention and bought a PS4.
Poodlestrike
Banned
Probably my favorite Forerunner design concept.
I don't know about "true fan", but it was obvious Sony had Destiny on lock from the very early days, and it would be the premiere platform for it.
MrGreencastle
Member
Not exactly disagreeing, but it's more old Elite/Sangheili architecture rather than Covenant. They've been shown to have a more indo-islamic style futurist architecture in the past compared to the covenant's more insect-like organic style.
Well yeah. Still miffed about it though. But that's nothing compare to what Bungie did to Mac gamers back in the CE days
Fata1moose
Banned
I've always disliked the look of the Prometheans, there design just doesn't look like it fits in Halo. The Forerunner concept are posted looks really nice, I hope they put an end to the Prometheans in 5 and then we can fight actual Forerunners in 6.
My problem with the Prometheans, besides how annoying they are to fight on Legendary (fuck watchers) was how they were all the same. The enemies, all silver with light up bits. Their weapons, all silver with light up bits. The environments, more metal with light up bits. The Didact? Metal, light up bits.
Hoping we get any entirely new enemy type in 5, but the different coloured types we've seen are a good start.
Hoping we get any entirely new enemy type in 5, but the different coloured types we've seen are a good start.
Demoncarnotaur
Member
Fair enough, but I'm still not seeing that either. It just sorta looks like a crossbreed of UNSC and Covenant. I would have liked to see something a little more exploratory for Halo, perhaps something that embraces their culture and evolutionary heritage more, while infusing modern Covenant elements within.
FUNKNOWN iXi
Member
The Flood's returning as an enemy in the campaign and they're not talking about it to surprise us. "Hey, look here at this new Promethean Soldier class and all this new stuff for multiplayer!" Game releases, no one has The Flood on their radar and bam, introduce nostalgic Flood reveal, terrifying music included.
Could be awesome and extremely clever.
Could be awesome and extremely clever.
Fahzgoolin
Banned
FLOOD IN WARZONE
They are really my least favorite alien designs of 343i
I'd much rather have seen them double down on the proto-avian Skirmishers design from Reach. No aliens in a sci-fi game looked like that. Now they're just midget humanoid Godzillas.
Gonna echo what Greencastle said regarding this.
The "Covenant" style of architecture we know from Halo games prior to 4 is more likely attributed to the San'Shyuum--the technological forbearers of the Covenant--than the more militaristic, feudal Sangheili.
It's at night....? And it's half destroyed. Hard to look sleek when your city is falling apart.
I'm guessing this looked pretty grand in its heyday
I get most excited when we see unexplored worlds like Requiem. Giant Forerunner structures in the distance. Grand floating structures that we could not humanly create on one end of the scale. The other end is when even the fauna look intimidating, such as this:
These are the parts of Halo 5 I am going to love to visit.
Fata1moose
Banned
I've said this before, but I'd love the maps to be faction based, flood maps, covenant maps and Promethean maps. Would keep each game fresh (unless you played on the same map twice in a row).
MrGreencastle
Member
Wouldn't be that surprising. Halo CE, Halo 2, and Halo 3 all did this at some point or another.
I mean, I'd be much more surprised at a glorious reveal of Mendicant Bias - so long as it came with a little flashback cutscene of him orchestrating... a lot.
Or hell, even another form of Precursor similar to the Flood. Any other biblical things they could draw from for that? hmmmm
That's more like it. That looks sweet.
Yep. Prophet stuff is more in line with typical Covenant design than the Elites. High Charity was built out of a chunk of their home planet after all, and the bulbous nature of their fleets was more in line with that.
Oh shit. Infection mode could be really interesting with actual Flood going around.... Hmmm...
User 73706
Banned
Considering Invasion was flexible enough to house a bunch of sub-gametypes depending on how the map elements were tagged, I won't be surprised if each Warzone map is essentially its own "gametype." That, or I could see Warzone gametypes looking like this:
Hella Big Team Battle: MOBA Edition
Base Assault (invasion-ish)
Firefight (PvE, one large team of players is tasked with surviving against larger amounts of much stronger enemies)
Multi Team (~4 teams of 6, each of which is allied with an AI faction)
Skull Slayer (Campaign modifiers show up progressively like in Firefight)
Some sort of keepaway mode similar to Ultimate Frisbee would be hilarious at Warzone scale, too. Everyone has no shields and spawns with fisticuffs, only REQs available are speed boosts and Mongooses. When you're holding the frisbee you can't move, but are invincible. AI can pick it up, too.
Hella Big Team Battle: MOBA Edition
Base Assault (invasion-ish)
Firefight (PvE, one large team of players is tasked with surviving against larger amounts of much stronger enemies)
Multi Team (~4 teams of 6, each of which is allied with an AI faction)
Skull Slayer (Campaign modifiers show up progressively like in Firefight)
Some sort of keepaway mode similar to Ultimate Frisbee would be hilarious at Warzone scale, too. Everyone has no shields and spawns with fisticuffs, only REQs available are speed boosts and Mongooses. When you're holding the frisbee you can't move, but are invincible. AI can pick it up, too.
Hate to burst your bubble but the majority of people will be playing Warzone. It should have the most maps. Arena and small right maps is only for a small portion of Halo fans.
Personally I love all aspects of Halo and it's going to be great just to have 24 people in one map.
MrGreencastle
Member
I hate your ideas, they're worse than Frankies game modes (the firefight, multi team, skull slayer, invasion stuff is not bad). ...buuuut I really hope there's a custom game mode editor and Forge for Warzone. HIGHLY doubt it though.
When are they showing Forge anyway? Was it cut? :/
User 73706
Banned
Forge exists (it was used to make Pegasus and Orion), and Warzone doesn't have Forge or "custom games." Presumably that means you can't tinker with settings the way you could modify Reach Firefight, and conventional lobbies are still available.
Ragnarok Flames
Banned
Damn double posts
Ragnarok Flames
Banned
Yet arena should have more maps because they will be used for the HCS and their "renewed focus on competitive gameplay". Which Warzone is funding. And since the hardcore will stay longer than the fly by night gimmick players.
Warzone hasn't even released yet and you think what Halo has been is only for a small portion of fans. How many fans loved Infinity? Arena is what makes Halo, Halo.
People will play Warzone because they'll have the bigger is better mentality. It's the same reason Big Team Battle gets as many players as Team Slayer. So many are disappointed at only 12v12. Why does Battlefield get 32v32 etc. They don't even stop to think about player engagement in Halo.
Also, saying that people who want to play Warzone would never play Arena so it's all good. Those same arguments were used to justify new mechanics in Team Slayer saying that you have Slayer Pro or Team Hardcore, it won't affect the game because the casuals would never play blah blah. I think Warzone will be popular, why? Because they've cut out BTB for who knows how long. You can't play anything greater than 4v4 in Arena. There is no firefight, there is no Spartan Ops.
Breakaway Metal is Jem alt CONFIRMED.
Poker Face
Member
One of the things I'm really curious about is how 343 is going to ensure playlists stay populated. Since Reach players have avoided "competitive" playlists in favor of playlists like Zombies or even Action Sack. I can't help but feel like Arena will be ignored by 95% of the population because there's no customization and it's not chaotic enough.
not sure if bad opinion
Let's be honest. It's always an amazing opinionb
Holy duck. Auto correct somewhat worked.
My English right now is top quality.
User 73706
Banned
Destiny's got you covered
RowdyReverb
Member
I'd love to see some fresh designs for Flood enemies. It's weird to think that we haven't seen the flood in a Halo game in 8 years (if you don't count H4 Infection and H2A campaign). Maybe that's what the Guardian is guarding against and what will eventually unite Blue and Osiris?
Pretty much going to happen. You're gonna have people deny, say that Arena is it's own thing, that Warzone people would never have played. But it's inevitable, just like it was inevitable in Halo 4. The classic Halo people didn't want to play Infinity, the Infinity players didn't want to play classic. Because Infinity was more casual and didn't require skill, it won out. That's going to happen here. Why would Warzone people used to calling in Phaetons and heavy weapons, used to choosing loadouts go back to Arena? Hey I can play 12v12, go 14-22 and unlock sweet guns, or I can go play 4v4, struggle to play against competitive players, go 2-15 etc. Halo can't ever support two wildly different styles of play, and maybe that's what 343 wants. The REQ system is the evolution of Infinity. Expect it in every future Halo title, maybe more refined.
MrGreencastle
Member
Each Guardian is in charge of looking after a fragment of Mendicant Bias and protecting it from a potential return of the Flood.
That's my guess/wish. It'll be like looking for all the pieces of the Triforce.
Gravemind IV
Member
As much as I would like to see the Flood back at some point, it's probably not going to be in Halo 5. Although, hats off to 343 if they can keep the return a surprise.
RowdyReverb
Member
I have no idea what Mendicant Bias means, but it sounds fancy. I need to read the books.
They've been pretty tight lipped about campaign so far, but yeah I figure that's the sort of spoiler that people wouldn't even realize was a spoiler and give it away before the game launched. Or maybe they'll make the reveal themselves at one of the other gaming conventions between now and then.
JumPeRJumPzZ
Banned
Do we know if there are going to be different variants of vehicles? Because in the warzone footage it always says "Ghosts" "Mantises" "Warthogs"
MrGreencastle
Member
Just like Didact and Librarian, MB was introduced as a character in the Halo 3 terminals. It would be an excellent payoff for lore nerds like me. But part of me wants them to keep that card for a later time, too.
edit: I don't even think he's mentioned much in the books except in the Forerunner trilogy. 343i have already shown glimpses of him in Halo Legends Origins though. Fuckin badass.
Slightly Live
Dirty tag dodger
Cortana is still viable.
Considering she gave the Chief new information, Im not buying the hand waving explanation that it was just Chief's memories because that makes no sense.
With Halsey and Chief finally crossing paths and doing so early in the game, and the clear mention of the Domain, I'm going assume Chief is interested in the Guardians because of the Domain or their links to it - motivated maybe by the possibility Cortana or something of her may survive in the Domain.
With the Domain being linked to the Flood, it opens doors. What are the Guardians guarding exactly? They seem to be some kind of Heralds of a new Forerunner "Reclamation". Maybe Didact is trying to establish a new connection to the Domain or maybe re-create it?
Considering she gave the Chief new information, Im not buying the hand waving explanation that it was just Chief's memories because that makes no sense.
With Halsey and Chief finally crossing paths and doing so early in the game, and the clear mention of the Domain, I'm going assume Chief is interested in the Guardians because of the Domain or their links to it - motivated maybe by the possibility Cortana or something of her may survive in the Domain.
With the Domain being linked to the Flood, it opens doors. What are the Guardians guarding exactly? They seem to be some kind of Heralds of a new Forerunner "Reclamation". Maybe Didact is trying to establish a new connection to the Domain or maybe re-create it?
Fata1moose
Banned
I have no idea what "The Domain" is and I'm having flashbacks to knowing fuck all about "The Composer" in Halo 4. Hope they explain the story in 5 better than they did with 4.
no way cortana doesn't play a pivotal role in the story. Pretty sure she's going to be merged with the librarian or some shit. her selfless sacrifice probably made her one with the force - er, the Domain.
The Domain is basically the Forerunner's internet. It's the entity upon which all Forerunner experience and perspectives across history is linked and cataloged, and is the backbone to their connected society across the galaxy. It was inherited from/built by the Precursors, and it was destroyed when the first Halos first fired.
The Domain is basically the Forerunner's internet. It's the entity upon which all Forerunner experience and perspectives across history is linked and cataloged, and is the backbone to their connected society across the galaxy. It was inherited from/built by the Precursors, and it was destroyed when the first Halos first fired.
Zeouterlimits
Member
The only way is up?
I think they heard those complaints in particular. Whether what they do is good enough, we'll see.
wesleyshark
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