20ozSlayer
Neo Member
After reading the convo on Twitter, how I understand it's full screen only when connected to their servers. So maybe I can play offline with my son split screen
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Halo |OT 24| In Before the Locke
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See that's what I wrote and thought too, but then I distinctly remember them saying that all customs ran on dedicated servers as well. And then you have the pre-order only showing 1-1 players Xbox one, but 2-24 with Xbox Live.
wesleyshark
Banned
Yes! The focus on the story, that we've seen so far, looks great. If the Hunt the Truth series is anything to go by, I think we're in for a hell of a ride.
The Jackdog
Member
im really really hoping someone from 343 gives a full clarification sometime soon
Captain Friendo
Neo Member
343i are good universe expanders.
H4: FuD, the new novels and the Fall of Reach animated series coming with Halo 5 Limited that will give the unfamiliar a background of Blue Team are some more examples of this.
wesleyshark
Banned
I'm so stoked that the animated series is based off of the novel. Ahhhhhh
It's based off the novel?
I wonder if they'll shoehorn the Reach retcons in there. I know they were officially 'explained' to fit, but it still ruined things.
Unless 343 allows people to run a Windows PC or another Xbox One as a dedicated server in between all of the Xbox Ones you wish to play with, no.
Any "LAN" will just be all of your boxes connecting to Live anyway to play with each other.
Reason: generally if you design a game around not having the server reside on one of the clients in the session, the client does not have leftover horsepower to also run as a server for LAN. If peer to peer existed on LAN, then it'd exist on Live too.
wesleyshark
Banned
Stinkles said there'll be very minimal use of dates so that it doesn't tangle some things, but it's primarily based off of the novel's guide posts.
Edit:
The novel was absolutely fantastic and I think Poodlestrike has a shrine for it in his house somewhere.
Captain Friendo
Neo Member
Frank said here it's a straight up adaptation of the book.
And honestly to me at least, between the journal and then the data drops the reach stories fit together pretty constructively now.
MrGreencastle
Member
I hope they give the Sigma Octanus IV Artifact its due screen time
ahem...
ahem...
20ozSlayer
Neo Member
Then all hope is lost...
Hypertrooper
Member
About splitscreen in Halo 5:
There will not be split screen for the campaign as I understood the last week.
There will not be split screen for the campaign as I understood the last week.
That was 6 months ago. A lot can happen in a few months.
Welfare
Member
But not graphics
User 73706
Banned
This is some YouTube comment-level stuff. 343 killing traditional family values confirmed
lmao
The Real Napsta
Member
I'd be fine with needing an extra Xbox One to act as a server for LAN.
Poodlestrike
Banned
Stinkles said there'll be very minimal use of dates so that it doesn't tangle some things, but it's primarily based off of the novel's guide posts.
Edit:
The novel was absolutely fantastic and I think Poodlestrike has a shrine for it in his house somewhere.
This is true.
Games begin as perfection and only get worse before launch. It is known.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
I think that had something to do with the orbital drop ordnance system or something.
Another stupid idea though. One of the great things about prior Halo campaigns was you had all those options to utilize in the sandbox. I'll drop this battle rifle for this sniper, use it up, come back and get the BR or whatever. Now you drop that shit, as soon as the sniper is out, you're forced to use one of those weak weedy promethean weapons, trying to shoot Crawlers as they're pinging you from a mile away and you're wondering what went wrong with your favorite franchise.
Here's the tweet just in case. The original tweet was a picture of the pre-order just showing 1 player for Halo 5. Who knows. I mean campaign it's one thing where guests may not want to get into campaign, but sometimes people just want to play team slayer or BTB with friends who are over. On the one hand, would be great not to be partnered with 1 guy and his first time guest or something who usually drop neg bombs, but on the other, I can see quite a lot of people upset because local MP has been huge since CE. Then again, maybe they have data that shows split screen players were becoming a minority with MCC or Halo 5 beta data.
Didn't they say during the beta that there WOULD be split screen in the full game?
Poodlestrike
Banned
I think it's the"ruined".
Well... hmm. IMO, changing the battle of Reach to a month long drawn-out 'event' that was somehow kept a secret from the Spartans and most people(?) on the planet just ruined the epic and sudden onslaught that was described in the book.
FoR certainly isn't the pinnacle of story telling. But it was decent enough and Reach came along and shat all over it.
wesleyshark
Banned
343's belligerent handling of the Halo franchise led to my divorce, caused my pregnant dog to die whilst giving birth and encouraged a hawk to swoop in and kill the puppies that survived.
The Reach game was a bull in a china shop when it came to canonical consistency and 343 did what they could at the time to make the game and the novel work together in the same universe. There were still some fairly obvious misalignments, but it was serviceable.
With the animated series mirroring the novel, looks like the game will be taking a back seat, which is fine... The book is superior and was loaded with all sorts of great lore bits that got dropped or ignored in the game.
Again, the games are the primary medium for Halo. FoR was written almost a decade before by someone MS had hired. No way was Bungie going to shoehorn themselves into what the book established, as opposed to the story they wanted to tell in the game they're making for the series they created.
20ozSlayer
Neo Member
What does Rod Fergusson mean when he says Gears will support lan?
User 73706
Banned
The fact that you have to punctuate literally every criticism of it with "ruined" or "shat all over it" just comes across as ridiculous, for one. Bungie is a company made of human humans that do human things such as occasionally wanting to make changes to their narrative, in particular to better fit a playable game. It's unrealistic to assume every single encounter in FoR could have been properly implemented in a playable state on the 360. Not to mention that some point between the Cortana Letters and CE's release Bungie lost the original Halo story arc in full, which is probably what prompted creating something more defensible - the Story Bible.
343 gets blame for UNSC power creep - rightfully so - but Bungie did this to a lesser degree and had to accommodate accordingly. FoR was made before the advent of smorgasbords of super-powered prototypes outside of the Pillar of Autumn, and it's a logical jump from days to a month considering the UNSC was running all of these covert missions with Spartan-IIIs in addition to IIs.
I think Halsey's Journal really does all it needs to in terms of rectifying things, and it would make sense that Reach - the penultimate bastion of humanity at the height of its military power pre-343 - would have a more drawn-out struggle than a few days. Granted, FoR covers the first few days where they were understandably blindsided, but the final throes of the planet in an attempted turnaround no doubt lasted a few more weeks.
You know Bungie made Reach, right?
wesleyshark
Banned
Yes. They were in charge for the novel and the game... And the game was more or less a messy retcon.
Edit: I meant to say that 343 has sort of carried both along so far in regards to which one was more factual- looks like they are declaring that the novel is the one to consider closest to canon.
I didn't mean to say 343 made Reach.. I can see how my comment was worded oddly though haha
User 73706
Banned
Bungie themselves did what they could to get the two entities playing nice with Halsey's Journal, the Assembly data pads, the ambient Blue Team radio transmissions on multiplayer maps, etc. 343 didn't play a huge part in magically getting those two to coexist.
Poodlestrike
Banned
While I definitely agree that the game's take on events is (comparatively) whack, I reject the idea that it retroactively ruined the book, because a) that's impossible, and b) they're not entirely irreconcilable, other than a few details.
I think far fewer people would have been bothered if the story they told in Reach had been actually been better than TFoR. As it was, none of the retcons actually made it better.
Poodlestrike
Banned
Definitely true in my case.
wesleyshark
Banned
The game definitely didn't ruin the book. The book has stood the test of time, and will continue to do so (because it freaking rocks!). The game also made a mess of what Ghost of Onyxs established as well, as the Spartan IIIs were a well guarded secret. It made no sense that suddenly a squad of IIIs were sent to Reach. Halsey didn't know about the IIIs until she got to Onyx.
True. But I'd counter by saying for literally millions, there is no fall of reach. All they know about Reach they learned from the games. So even if the game isn't better story wise than the book, for most people the book doesn't even exist in their minds.
wesleyshark
Banned
Better late than never! FoR was so good.. I'm glad that more people are going to be made aware of that story.
User 73706
Banned
I at least like the addition that the Forerunner artifact / crashed ship in The Package either held some kind of Rosetta Stone that finally allowed Halsey to translate Forerunner texts into English, or that it had coordinates to Alpha Halo on it. It sounds a little more plausible than a "blind jump," not to mention it kicked off the events that would ultimately turn the Covenant War around.
wesleyshark
Banned
Wasn't really a blind jump though. There was an assumption of something of value or intense interest being at the coordinates they jumped to. Plus, there's also the deeply behind the scenes sting pulling of the Minds of the Assembly (if you like your Halo with a side of tinfoil hat).
Best point of defense of the Halo Reach game's story bar none.
Wasn't really a blind jump though. There was an assumption of something of value or intense interest being at the coordinates they jumped to. Plus, there's also the deeply behind the scenes sting pulling of the Minds of the Assembly (if you like your Halo with a side of tinfoil hat).
This is the Wahrer way of course.
Moa
Member
Hi?
As Wesley said, there was never a real blind jump. Cortana figured there might be something at the location which they gleaned from the Cote de Azur artifact. Halsey needing to send Cortana to the Autumn with stuff to save us all was another Bungie retcon, although you could argue it actually had a purpose in the story to make Noble Six and co. not just die for nothing.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Because people like you will defend it saying "if it had to be done for 60fps, then so be it. So silky, so smooth, :wow: can't go back"
wesleyshark
Banned
It did give them a purpose, but it was a sort of shoehorn, as they shouldn't have even been there in the first place as the Spartan IIIs were hidden away and in training on Onyx.
JumPeRJumPzZ
Banned
There should be no framerate over resolution. Both should be in a good condition. I dont really care about 60fps if the game i play looks like shit thanks to the low resolution and aliasing.
wesleyshark
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