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Halo |OT 24| In Before the Locke
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You'll miss an egghead here and there but no, you'll be able to understand it well.
Fahzgoolin
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Ugh Marathon. I miss that game!
As noted by another user Monoprice cables are great. This is the cable I had used, but in white (looked dope
)DiiGoliath
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wesleyshark
Banned
[A Grave Stream]: Guardians
Guardian:
The multiplayer map Guardian from Halo 3 was originally part of an actual level in the camagin that was cut during development. The level took place in the Guardian Forest, and was to feature Guardian Sentinels as fightable foes throughout. The forest itself was to be littered with Forerunner stuctures that would be explorable as you progressed. The multiplayer map was one of these structures. What the campaign mission would have focused on, or what objectives were to be completed, are unknown, as again, this was cut at some point. Another piece of this level was also removed and spliced into The Covenant level.
Guardian Sentinel:
Hmm. Where have we seen Guardian Sentinels before? Ah yes. Halo Origins! The Guardian Sentinels can be seen escorting/protecting the Key Ship.
343 definitely, and massively, overhauled what they look like, but the Guardian assets and lore have been floating about for a while, and almost made it into Halo 3 before getting left on Bungie's cutting room floor.
Catching up on some twitter stuff, some guy asked Josh why the pre-order for Halo 5 only shows 1 player for the game. He responded by saying all MP modes use full screen on dedicated servers (Arena, Warzone) etc. A lot took it to mean split screen cut entirely from the game, not just campaign co-op. Was this confirmed? Or are people drawing a wrong conclusion?
Welfare
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They can be different. Remember these are Sentinels. We don't know what classification these new Guardians are.
wesleyshark
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I've been under the impression that there is no local co-op at all.
True. Just seems like a possible (certainly not probable or definitive) connection, given that the Guardians were cut entirely. Perhaps that class was repurposed. Could just be new altogether. Fun to speculate!
Poodlestrike
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If that is the case, it's the first I'm hearing of it. Thought Arena still had 2 player split screen.
Sadly, the West Coast is probably still asleep, so no bugging Frankie about it for another few hours at least
Welfare
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I'm taking that as no split screen. Why else would he say that?
And AGAIN, 343 can't give straight answers.
wesleyshark
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If that is the case, it's the first I'm hearing of it. Thought Arena still had 2 player split screen.
Sadly, the West Coast is probably still asleep, so no bugging Frankie about it for another few hours at least
Pppssshh. Frankie can sleep on Oct 28th.
Yeah, I saw this.
Would really fucking suck.
My hope is that they're still trying to get or working so he doesn't want to commit to an answer until it's confirmed.
wesleyshark
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- Shannon Loftis - Microsoft General Manager of Games Publishing
From what I can find out on the Internet, sounds like there's no splitscreen whatsoever that will be in the game at launch. Maybe down the road, but I doubt that would happen. I don't like splitscreen, so it's no bother, but I know that it will definitely urk a few folks who want to have a friend over to play who may not have their own Xbone, etc.
The Real Napsta
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Stinkles, will Halo 5 have System link/LAN?
wesleyshark
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Bring back the blade menus while you're at it!
If that is the case, it's the first I'm hearing of it. Thought Arena still had 2 player split screen.
Sadly, the West Coast is probably still asleep, so no bugging Frankie about it for another few hours at least
Yeah I'd be pretty surprised if home console split screen cut altogether. I mean I was understanding for campaign, it needs to maintain 60fps visual fidelity, they can't really drop frames, and do what they wanted, but no split screen multi-player would just be a poor decision. Who knows, maybe it was just worded weirdly. I figured someone here might have heard something. But the full screen on dedicated servers probably means that it split screen is cut for MP modes too, not just campaign.
Iirc, the Xbox One doesn't support real LAN, so it will probably be like Halo MCC, where one Xbox One needs to be connected to Xbox Live and the others connected to that console.
We're playing MCC Halo 3 coop with 2 consoles on the same network and it's loosing connection just like at launch, where that would bizarrely happen with split-screen play too. There's no explicit option for LAN like there was in the 360 versions of these games and anyone who isn't host sees lag.
Will Halo 5 have LAN support?
Still, Tsavo Highway middle to end is pure distilled Halo as far as Legendary cooperative campaigns go, and think Halo 3 has the best overall look, even now.
Will Halo 5 have LAN support?
Still, Tsavo Highway middle to end is pure distilled Halo as far as Legendary cooperative campaigns go, and think Halo 3 has the best overall look, even now.
wesleyshark
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They've been saying for a while now that 60fps was the target for MP.
Zeouterlimits
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Jeez.
The reasoning that you couldn't drop from 60 to 30 in campaign was more than just visual I believe, there would be "mechanical" issues, so it might be the same for multiplayer.
wesleyshark
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I'll gladly take quality and consistency over splitscreen. Destiny is a great example of a play-with-your-friends FPS that doesn't suffer from a lack of local co-op.
See Stinkles' quote. The entire game is built from the ground up to be 60fps, sounds like.
If it really is completely reliant on 60fps and they just can't hit it then I guess it's understandable...
I think I'd rather take 60 over split screen. That said, I'd much rather they designed the game in a way which wasn't reliant on 60 so we could have 30fps split screen and 60fps single player.
I think I'd rather take 60 over split screen. That said, I'd much rather they designed the game in a way which wasn't reliant on 60 so we could have 30fps split screen and 60fps single player.
Here's the tweet just in case. The original tweet was a picture of the pre-order just showing 1 player for Halo 5. Who knows. I mean campaign it's one thing where guests may not want to get into campaign, but sometimes people just want to play team slayer or BTB with friends who are over. On the one hand, would be great not to be partnered with 1 guy and his first time guest or something who usually drop neg bombs, but on the other, I can see quite a lot of people upset because local MP has been huge since CE. Then again, maybe they have data that shows split screen players were becoming a minority with MCC or Halo 5 beta data.
wesleyshark
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How is that not a straight answer?
I think he asked is split screen removed entirely, and so Josh didn't flat out say yes or no, but said that which is why he's all Michael Corleone 'Can't you give me a straight answer!' upset.
Because it's really weird language to use.
A straight answer would be straight up saying "no the game doesn't have split screen".
That could mean that they don't have black bars when in split screen for all we know.
Zeouterlimits
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That is a terrible answer, c'mon! You are ludicrous with your 343-are-only-fantastic goggles.
"Full screen". I have never heard it called full screen. It either has split screen or it does not.
wesleyshark
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The guy's questions are horribly convoluted before that point, so why he expects a simple answer to his question is beyond me.
I'm surprised we still even see so many Guests on Xbox Live, considering one Gold account can share Gold with all of the other profiles on it's home console.
See? Should have stayed with 30fps. Now we have 800x830 native resolution and no split screen.
I hope you're happy, HaloGAF.
Poodlestrike
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Still only speaking about Campaign. Maybe still in multi...
It's probably cut.
I do commend Frankie for not trying to spin it as a positive, tho. Much better than "giving players the opportunity to spend more money."
Answering 'yes' or 'no' is not hard
You say that like it wasn't an early build.
Inb4 someone makes a stupid comment about how games can't be optimised before launch.
Poodlestrike
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They can't, tho. Jumperz has proved it by repeating it until it became true, thus altering the fabric of the universe, and that other guy provided numbers demonstrating that Halo 5 is gonna clear 1.5 mil, tops. Halo is dad.
20ozSlayer
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Not happy about this at all. My 8 year old son begs me to play halo with him all the time. One of my favorite things about halo is I can have a great time killing aliens alongside my son. 343 has taken this from me.
wesleyshark
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I didn't want to make a thread, but I felt it's warranted. I hope we get actual discussion, and I did bring up how past threads were unnecessarily used to just dump on the game. Hopefully it works out better. I know I also was one of the few who was trying to calm the coop campaign users by saying they could still play MP split screen.
wesleyshark
Banned
Yup, so dad, so sad.
I only posted that to get the inb4 in
Inb4 the inb4 crowd uses an inb4
Game is gonna be best selling exclusive to both consoles to date when it comes out. Especially if it gets a sweet ass console bundle like the Forza or Sunset bundles. Imagine a gun metal gray with Locke visor blue light or something.
Not much to discuss. It's just going to be a bunch of people complaining about how "incompetent" 343i is on one side and the other side defending the issue saying performance is king, it was a tradeoff, etc.
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