Genesis Knight
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Seems like. So we have the Halo ring Forge environment, a UNSC asteroid Forge environment, and a...?
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Halo |OT10| The Calm Before The Storm
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Seems like. So we have the Halo ring Forge environment, a UNSC asteroid Forge environment, and a...?
Zoso Achilles
Member
That's a static building on the map, not a forge piece at all. It's similar in function to the forerunner building seen in The Ravine (from the RTX forge reveal.)
Hypertrooper
Member
UK HaloGAFfers! Prepare yourself:
The magnetize feature is pretty good and will help a lot of people to create better maps. In a lot of the community created maps edges stick out, Forge parts aren't connected properly or there are some gaps. Furthermore there is the dynamic lighting which makes the map look better in a lot of ways. Small changes and addition.
Demoncarnotaur
Member
So, Meltdown on thursday?
Whoa!
So I love the envrionment, much easier on the eye. However we moved from 50 shades of grey to 50 shades of white. It looks better, and the lighting helps, but I am underwhelmed.
This will suffer the same repetitive issues that Forge did with Reach.. At least the base environment is easier on the eye. The other one that looks like Forge World looks awful though.
I'm with you on this. At least have a few base color options or something... maybe separate pallets on the same map. It would be nice to have some real options so maps don't have the same, bland and repetitive look.
Guys (if you haven't already) please sign the twitter petition against Microsoft's new rules about Halo 4 videos.
http://twitition.com/avf8n
http://twitition.com/avf8n
Vire
Member
ThatsMytrunks
Member
Cool, so the Mantis is forgeable. Now the next question: How many can we place at once? Can we have 8v8 mantis battles?
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
One thing I noticed in the Forge video is that he says "This map uses a UNSC Forge palette" in a way that seems like maybe there are other palettes...
So, Meltdown on thursday?
Whoa!
So I love the envrionment, much easier on the eye. However we moved from 50 shades of grey to 50 shades of white. It looks better, and the lighting helps, but I am underwhelmed.
This will suffer the same repetitive issues that Forge did with Reach.. At least the base environment is easier on the eye. The other one that looks like Forge World looks awful though.
I'm with you on this. At least have a few base color options or something... maybe separate pallets on the same map. It would be nice to have some real options so maps don't have the same, bland and repetitive look.
It does help that there is also now some animating scenery objects. Like the core thing.
Vire
Member
Shh.. don't tell that to team downer.
So UNSC is white and Forerunner is Grey? Yay I guess!
I've been following your conversation with Frank. Indeed, some of these items are new, and a lot of the bullet points are old - but yes, difficult to tell what is new. If there are workarounds, this is good news.
made me lol.
The magnetize feature is a bit overrated if you ask me. It was already easy to align pieces in Reach using the coordinate system and I don't see people saving a lot of time using the magnet system instead. It will hopefully make aligning angled objects easier, though.
That's an entire forge map, and its completely grey. Maybe some of the insides have yellow lighting, who knows. But from what I see there, all grey.
Hey Stinkles, find out of the Halo 4 team used my pioneering Lightmap baking technique I described here in 2007:
http://www.ogre3d.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=37128&start=25
http://www.ogre3d.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=37128&start=25
I don't think I had ever seen this balance thing before. Is it some sort of skill rating?
Damn, exactly this is what I wanted to post.
Also I'm with Kylej on this, although I think it looks better and have better features, only one repeatign color isn't good in forge.
I think lighting does an incredible part, but I hope we can change the white parts.
The environment by itsel is astonishing, really beautiful
Demoncarnotaur
Member
So far we have only seen UNSC, even on Ravine correct? Even if there are forerunner pieces I bet they end up looking nearly identical to the white UNSC pieces. I wish they had some more color options, maybe some more industrial UNSC pieces, Covenant pieces, etc. I also wish maps weren't locked into a theme.. its going to have a lot of the same issues Reach had down the line.
Yeah, that is true.. also, the space environment is a lot easier on the eye.
RebornYeti
Member
Oooh, Gravity Volumes affect vehicles as well as players.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Forge!
It's still grey and boring as hell!
Can't wait for Halo Reach 2.0 playlists with a flood of ugly Forge variants
It's still grey and boring as hell!
Can't wait for Halo Reach 2.0 playlists with a flood of ugly Forge variants
bobs...onGaf
Member
if the potential different pallets can co exist on one map that would probably help with visual identity - I really hope that's the case
Poker Face
Member
i still dont like how forge made maps look.
please don't put them into normal matchmaking. make a community playlist pls
please don't put them into normal matchmaking. make a community playlist pls
Well the bigger issue was like you mentioned objects with different depths that made alignment harder. I do hope they fixed that for the objects coming in from Reach--that would be a big timesaver and prolly help some of the phasing issues that hurt performance.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
Mass Effect 1 vibes in particular. Very good thing.
Unlike Complex, where I continue to wait for the Collectors to drop and shoot ol' Lazy-Eye Williams.
Vire
Member
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
I don't think I had ever seen this balance thing before. Is it some sort of skill rating?
This is interesting.
bobs...onGaf
Member
Gravity volumes could be a cleaner way to block off maps than kill walls - I wonder if you can use them to push down a jet pack user.
I'm fine with the color no complaints here, the lighting engine really helps.
I'm still lost on how Weapon Drops for power weapons will work in this game. How does the game play when you don't know what spot to go to for the Laser, when you NEED the laser to take down something?
ViewtifulJC
Banned
and then get to that ending and be like, "...why did I even bother"
I don't think I had ever seen this balance thing before. Is it some sort of skill rating?
It's spartan points, see the SP at the right?
Balance: 3 Spartan Points
Kyle has a very good point about the colors. You need SOME way of being able to differentiate areas. I remember there was this one forgeworld citadel or midship remake that was built half in the colliseum, half out. And the lighting difference (despite being indoors) made a HUGE difference.
That map they showed, the symmetrical arena one, looked nice but so disorienting. The shitty forge world color "trims" were so small they were almost unnoticeable, and we were only allowed 2 small red and blue light sources per map.
That map they showed, the symmetrical arena one, looked nice but so disorienting. The shitty forge world color "trims" were so small they were almost unnoticeable, and we were only allowed 2 small red and blue light sources per map.
As a Forge hater I must say that the new environments look better, the pieces look somewhat better, and the lighting is great and will really help.
But this just has me disappointed. This video seemed to suck all the magic out of Halo 4. So empty and lifeless. It still looks one solid color and boring. I appreciate what they've done, but bah what a turn off.
I really hope Forge maps are pushed aside to their own playlist (we sort of know this) and I hope to play then as minimally as possible. User created maps are just not fun for me to play on. I'll maintain that Forge is great for customs, mini games, and the Forgers themselves, while it totally sucks for everyone else.
But this just has me disappointed. This video seemed to suck all the magic out of Halo 4. So empty and lifeless. It still looks one solid color and boring. I appreciate what they've done, but bah what a turn off.
I really hope Forge maps are pushed aside to their own playlist (we sort of know this) and I hope to play then as minimally as possible. User created maps are just not fun for me to play on. I'll maintain that Forge is great for customs, mini games, and the Forgers themselves, while it totally sucks for everyone else.
There is a rumored Group system, we have no idea how it works, but a clan system would be great
Criticism can only make something better.
indubitably
Member
We won't need a community playlist when we get the custom game lobbies.
Those were never completely shot down, right?
AllIsOneIsNone
Banned
I just don't think changing colors is going to make a difference. Imagine being able to make these white structures blue or red or green and putting them together side by side. The contrast is going to look horrible no matter what you do. The only way I see different colors looking good is if it's a lighting filter or completely different looking textures/models (which in a way I guess is what you were saying now that I read it again).
Proper lightning/shadows makes it look much better, but it's still got a long way to go to leave repetitivity and unpleasantness behind. Please 343i, shove the community creation shit into its own playlist, give the huge part of the community who don't care for them at all the option to avoid them!! The way this was handled in Reach was disgraceful and downright embarrassing to witness.
Hydranockz
Member
Firebase Condor anyone?
That glitch was hilarious!
