You're crazy. Enemies are still pretty stupid, though I will admit Watchers become difficult in that one episode for the first time.
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Halo |OT12| Last One Out, Get the Lights
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You're crazy. Enemies are still pretty stupid, though I will admit Watchers become difficult in that one episode for the first time.
bobs...onGaf
Member
I was talking about multiplayer but yeah thats very true in campaign! Its intense and fun in campaign but frustrating in multiplayer when it leads to me having to slow down and not move forward after a battle.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
I don't know. In campaign I didn't have elites trying to push my shit in and I didn't have PKs assisting eachother much at all. In spartan ops everything seemed to be working together to kick my ass.
Ah, gotcha.
If anything I think the delay was added to make use of regen.
Shake Appeal
Member
Didn't realize you could create 'normal' Halo weapon spawning by fiddling with Initial Drops in Forge. We need classic versions of maps stat.
Well I guess I could've missed something (played solo on Legendary), but they didn't change at all in the way I played it. Maybe the Elites would charge a little more but nothing drastic, IMO.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
I noticed Elites dodge more
Der Flatulator
Member
Just realized the "Midnight Launch" achievement actually has to be done at midnight. Strange...
...Or you could simply use regular weapon spawns..
...Or you could simply use regular weapon spawns..
Wait, what? I haven't done that achievement yet.
Yeah, the 35 second reset time is pretty ridiculous. On some maps it's practically impossible to return flags.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
Yeah, and they also push forward and retreated more. Also crawlers would "flush me out" more.
One bad thing I noticed in both campaign and spartan ops though is crawlers seems almost always to push "lemming style" through the same 1 or two paths, especially when they do that "high slow jump." Makes killing them very predictable.
PKs would assist (one would push forward)and the one I was hitting would teleport back when I engaged more than one in spartan ops which was frustrating, but a welcome change from campaign where I could just pick them off one by one.
Oh wow. I was wondering why I didn't get it the other day when I tried. How strange, haha
The Librarian
Banned
So you thought AAs were useful...except for most of them? Because I wasn't having much difficulty with the campaign, I didn't have any use for the HLS. There's plenty of cover for the player to utilize. If AS is only useful because you run out of ammo, I don't see that as a good thing. The campaign has a problem with the player running out of ammo, and I'd much rather fight with a useful weapon than the AS doing it for me.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
I think the only AA i used in campaign was the Jetpack, helps get around all the big spaces. Half of the time, I just completely forgot I had an armor ability.
I constantly ran out of ammo in the campaign. This is probably due to the way that I play Halo where I choose to engage from long range and stay alive (same as in matchmaking really). I found Auto Sentry to be indispensable and really only switched to Jetpack if I was bypassing a sticky part of a level.
Like I mentioned in the OT - Abandon has no place in the rotation. I want it out as soon as possible. It's a small map with a short, clear, elevated, protected path straight from one flag to the other.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
One big complaint about this "running out of ammo" thing is it feels like they purposely reduced the weapon availability/sandbox and pumped up shield strength to inflate difficulty.
Next game I'd like to see less weapon restriction, less shields (nobody likes bullet sponges) and to compensate, "smarter" AI in the enemies.
Now I don't want them simply dodging back and forth like crazy, that would just be annoying, but I definitely want to see smarter enemies next go around and less "pump bullets into the enemy if you can't find a PP" type scenarios. I'm also not a fan of "having" to use the boltshot to work around this bullet sponge concept either.
Next game I'd like to see less weapon restriction, less shields (nobody likes bullet sponges) and to compensate, "smarter" AI in the enemies.
Now I don't want them simply dodging back and forth like crazy, that would just be annoying, but I definitely want to see smarter enemies next go around and less "pump bullets into the enemy if you can't find a PP" type scenarios. I'm also not a fan of "having" to use the boltshot to work around this bullet sponge concept either.
That brought back some Halo 2 memories
NobleGundam
Banned
I fell off of the fourth level Reclaimer within the Jungle/Forest somehow. Never again...
Blue Ninja
Member
This happened to me, BUT the game does eventually stop spawning them and proceed the mission. It just takes a fuckton of time.
AR is surprisingly good at taking down Ghosts, and once you get your hands on one of your own you can mop up those Wraiths. Abuse going inside Mammoth's interior for triggering checkpoints.
On the last mission on Legendary now. The
death star run
I used initial drops on my map so that the teams would still know the weapon was spawning but so that I wouldn't use random ordnance. It's not an obnoxious reminder like "HOLY SHIT LOOK AT ALL OF THIS FUCKING ORDNANCE RAINING DOWN FROM THE ETHER" but more along the lines of "Hey, guys, see that puff of smoke? Enemy team has their sniper back up. Stay in cover."
Sooo.. what decides which weapons you get in your personal weapon drop?
I swear I have almost everytime the needler or the SAW, while my friend had in one game two times in a row the binary rifle.
I never had the binary rifle as weapon drops or a human sniper.
Is it really only luck?
Also:
-The spawns on some maps are just dumb as fuck
-CTF on Adrift is no fun, the weapon recovery time is ridicilous, why not take the MLG timers ?
-Weapon spawns on maps are also weird, sometimes I have the feelign they never respawn or they aren't shown, even here I would prefer the MLG timers.
-Vortex and Complex are the worst maps I think, at least Complex 4vs4 is bad and CTF on Complex is also not optimal, the one flag is out in the open and the other one is behind some great cover.
-Theater is a joke without announcer
-Active camo is still as annoying as in Reach, if not worse. Jetpack is quite ok.
And I can't believe I'm gonna say that but we need forge maps at least for small slayer gametypes, Haven is great, but I don't want to play it non stop. Add Relay and search for small Arena style maps, especially if you want Team Doubles to work.
Also Dominion is shit, don't like it at all.
I swear I have almost everytime the needler or the SAW, while my friend had in one game two times in a row the binary rifle.
I never had the binary rifle as weapon drops or a human sniper.
Is it really only luck?
Also:
-The spawns on some maps are just dumb as fuck
-CTF on Adrift is no fun, the weapon recovery time is ridicilous, why not take the MLG timers ?
-Weapon spawns on maps are also weird, sometimes I have the feelign they never respawn or they aren't shown, even here I would prefer the MLG timers.
-Vortex and Complex are the worst maps I think, at least Complex 4vs4 is bad and CTF on Complex is also not optimal, the one flag is out in the open and the other one is behind some great cover.
-Theater is a joke without announcer
-Active camo is still as annoying as in Reach, if not worse. Jetpack is quite ok.
And I can't believe I'm gonna say that but we need forge maps at least for small slayer gametypes, Haven is great, but I don't want to play it non stop. Add Relay and search for small Arena style maps, especially if you want Team Doubles to work.
Also Dominion is shit, don't like it at all.
Der Flatulator
Member
Just in case you haven't noticed, the Wraith AI is INSANE in this game! Just get close to one and you'll be splattered within an instant.
Killed by my own overshield (calling it in in the middle of a battle, silly idea). Felt bad man.
Killed by my own overshield (calling it in in the middle of a battle, silly idea). Felt bad man.
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
Funny thing is I think some of the spawns are ordinance locations too. I've spawned into a hell of a loud noise and noticed a drop was right where I spawned.
Just watched the terminals... Love it! If there's one thing 343i are doing better than Bungie, it's developing the story (not implying 343i sucks at everything else, haha). The ones in CEA were great, and these are just as good. Glad they were included, even if we have to watch them on Waypoint.
Awesome job, 343i / whoever made them.
Awesome job, 343i / whoever made them.
RebornYeti
Member
I haven't, but my friend keeps getting killed by his own personal ordnance because he always walks forward after deploying it.
Der Flatulator
Member
Also, how do?
If it's relevant, I have completed all chapters of episode 1 on solo legendary.
If it's relevant, I have completed all chapters of episode 1 on solo legendary.
FUNKNOWN iXi
Member
Yup, that's the exact problem I had with the campaign. Without the little research I did in the past on the Forerunners I would've been even more confused than what I was.
But wait,
the Composer isn't a different person?? lol
That's fun, sure.. but you're doing it wrong ;]
Rickenslacker
Banned
Yeah, unfortunately powerups are still limited to Global Ordnance and can't be placed without it, but I guess it's not so bad.
NobleGundam
Banned
Campaign is good. Terminals adds a lasting impression. Imo.
I'm loving the campaign so far. I'm on the final level and can't wait to see what happens. The only mission I didn't really enjoy was the sixth. The fifth mission however....blew me away. I'm going to try to finish it today and get a start on Spartan Ops.
My friend and I tried out campaign coop for a bit, there was no lag whatsoever, so much better than Reach. I just hope it stays that way for Spartan Ops.
My friend and I tried out campaign coop for a bit, there was no lag whatsoever, so much better than Reach. I just hope it stays that way for Spartan Ops.
Buddermilk
Neo Member
While you eat your lunch I would recommend skimming the cliff notes to Cryptum, Primordium, Glasslands, and The Thursday War if you haven't read them. You will get much more out of the story.
HigherLevel
Member
The farther I got into the campaign the more I notice the combat is a step back. Enemies don't react like they do in the older games. It's more pop and shoot gameplay. The atmosphere and story are great though, definitely a step up from Halo 3 and Reach. I just hope 343 listens to the fans and changes this stuff in 5. It is only their first game after all.
Fixed it. Watch before playing.
MaximumFlipFlop
Banned
Terminal story is better told than Halo 4's Campaign story.
If this is the Halo/COD hybrid, I don't mind it. Unlike COD or Max Payne 3, there aren't killer weapon unlocks for higher ranked players. You have DMR and BR unlocked at the start, the main difference is perks which only slightly change the game. Furthermore, none of the perks seem anywhere as unbalanced/frustrating as something like Armor Lock, which is nice.
Not a Jellyfish
but I am a sheep
The only problems I have with the Campaign story is that the terminals should have been apart of it, the Didacts back story should have been apart of it.
People who have played say only 1-3 and have not read any of the books have no clue what is going on and why they are doing things.
Der Flatulator
Member
Yeah the terminals were great, nothing much there that wasn't in Cryptum and Primordium, but the story is really good.
Agreed. I had to explain SO MUCH to my brother it got ridiculous.
Agreed. I had to explain SO MUCH to my brother it got ridiculous.
Franklinator
Member
I just found out that the frowney face emblem I've had since Halo 2 is not in this game. Today is a dark day.
ElRenoRaven
Member
Yup. The campaign really falls flat. It's fun but between the lack of certain details in the campaign and a few too many bullshit encounter set ups it just really seems to lack that heart the original trilogy had. I really don't see myself going back to replay it again. I can say with every single one of the previous games I've played them time and time again. This one though I just have no desire to.
I'm really torn on the game. I really am.
MaximumFlipFlop
Banned
What truly disappointed me as a Halo fan, was that Halo 4's biggest plot twist/event Campaign Spoiler
I honestly thought that reading Crytum and Primordium would be a supplement to Halo 4's story, and not such an integral part of the storyline. Really killed the mystery for me 
was the human-forerunner war and the Promethean Knights being Composed forerunners and humans.
I can't believe I found all but two terminals on my own. I think halo 3 made it easier because they were mostly in forerunner locations so I searched those well in this game. What's the message translate to at the end of the last terminal? I don't want to waste time with glyphs that all look the same to me.
I...don't think he'll do that.
Why not? Kyle loves that shit. Eats it right up.
Hydranockz
Member
Shake Appeal
Member
I have near-zero idea of what is going on in this videogame's story right now. It is literally incomprehensible.
Kyle's favorite part in reach was the master chief versus Jun.
What truly disappointed me as a Halo fan, was that Halo 4's biggest plot twist/event Campaign SpoilerI honestly thought that reading Crytum and Primordium would be a supplement to Halo 4's story, and not such an integral part of the storyline. Really killed the mystery for mewas the human-forerunner war and the Promethean Knights being Composed forerunners and humans.
Well I don't know about anyone else, but I considered the biggest plot event in the game Campaign spoiler
to be when Cortana died or whatever.
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