Zeouterlimits
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I saw your tweet, but I did not, unfortunately.
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Halo |OT14| They call it Halo
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Can we please stop using the term 'fun' as the opposite of 'competitive'?
NullPointer
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Heh.
But in some ways they do seem counter each other. I see the dynamic and ordnance stuff as being about your enjoyment in the moment, personal score or team victory be damned. Competitive is for those who are all about the win and personal stats, striving to better their ranking.
The competitive guys want to strip out the dynamic stuff, which makes for a drier but more balanced match.
At least that's how it looks from comments here and on other forums.
But Infinity modes are meant to be fun mode
Keep them in social playlist for all I care.
Competitive gametypes are 'fun' for some people, casual gametypes are 'fun' for other people. It makes no sense to describe either of the two as 'fun', especially because indirectly calling the other type 'not fun' is dumb.
No, they doesn't, at least for me. I'm with Over with this one. I had a lot of fun in Halo 3 and Halo 2, because of it's competitive settings. If people are having fun with Flood, BTB, Infinity Slayer, that's good for them, but for me this isn't fun. It's a random mess.
Now, that we had 2 bad Halo games after an other, I realised how much, I miss the Halo 3 days. This is just my opinion, on the situation we have now.
Oh okay, good.
But where's the radar?
Spartan Ops Pro
Diet pro mode.
Ship it
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Ops scoring removed to make room for motion tracker confirmed.
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
They took out scoring so all the Spartans could wear yoga pants underneath their suits to appease Kyle.
Reagan's BR
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User 73706
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Over to petition renaming MLG Slayer to Just As Fun As Infinity Slayer Slayer confirmed
I mentioned this the other day, but scoring is in SpOps now, if you look at the post game carnage report it lists all your medals along with how many points they're worth. It also lists your "biggest kill" along with a points value. Moa pointed out that the SpOps leaderboard lists you in order by score, even though the score isn't displayed. Score is being tracked, they're just not displaying it.
Sparan Ops with scoring will begin the week after Episode 10.
Sparan Ops with scoring will begin the week after Episode 10.
That Spartan Ops video is painful to watch. Has anyone actually thought when watching the first SpOps cutscene: "Well that is where my Spartan suits up before I enter the War Games!"? This video really highlights the disconnect between any negative feedback and 343i. I didn't write an essay on Spartan Ops because I liked it. I wrote it because there are problems, because there are sections when I set my controller down and shut off my Xbox in frustration. I'm really, really disappointed with 343i.
Hasn't it been in that half-implemented state since launch?
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
I thought the second half of this season was fantastic? Even people that disliked the first half liked it.
(I need to play through it still)
Yea, not like they're selling millions.
The Librarian
Banned
Where's that from?
Yep and Sony hasn't announced that much new IP's either. 4 new IP's are enough and there will hopefully be some more, when the next gen consoles are getting released.
NullPointer
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MrGreencastle
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Cool video. They seem to be well aware of how they've improved over the course of developing SpOps. Call me a converted skeptic. I'm excited for the future of the mode.
Also, Kiki's hot.
Reagan's BR
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I'm not talking about Halo, Gears, Fable, or any other of their widely popular IPs, but rather all of the great IPs that they are sitting on like Banjo, Perfect Dark, PGR, Mech Assault, etc
I'd like to see some new titles using these IPs.
YourExWife
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My response was serious. Buttons have disappeared from multiplayer where they used to be important and could change they way you approached an engagement. In return they've taken over all campaign modes as the main objective and story-continuing action.
Being better than the first half of the season isn't exactly saying much. There's still a ton of issues involving waypoints, enemy composition, enemy behaviors(although I know this can't be helped at this point, it'd still be smart to lessen what is inherently bad), mission flow, and environment reuse(although it's not as prominent as the first half).
I get that much. But the first time you watched it, did that thought come into your mind?
I like the thread that talks about 4 New IPs from Microsoft.
It's all about Kinect...
NullPointer
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Enemy composition has gotten much better. There's still fuel rod enemies, but less of them at one time, and more often its grunts carrying them, which makes things easier to handle solo. Throw in a lot more rifle wielding elites and jackals, and more vehicles (ghosts and banshees) and you've got the makings for some really interesting encounters. There's alos a lot more ammo on hand, and even some AAs to equip.
What are you looking for in particular?
Actually yes, but I'm probably an odd man out here as I've always wanted more Halo fiction in the multiplayer. Infinity housing all of the multiplayer and being the central focus of Spartan Ops seemed like a good move.
Halo has some interesting lore, and that lore can be used to make some new game types ala Invasion. Proper execution is still key though.
EagleBurnn
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People complain about not enough new IP's on Xbox
Microsoft announces 4 new IP's
People complain
This cycle is sacred and true.
Does your crystal ball say who's going to win the Super Bowl on Sunday?
No need to assume the worst when little is known. I'm sure MS has something up their sleeve. Be clueless and happy.
Reagan's BR
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Totally excited for new IPs but I don't want them to introduce them and just drop them like Kameo.
because they are all Kinect based.
MrGreencastle
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I dunno. There are certainly parts that could be improved, but as a stand alone mode, the second half of the season actually feels like what they hyped SpOps to be. Sort of 15 minute campaigns. The first half of the season (for the most part) felt like babby's first Halo mode. It wasn't sure if it was campaign, or Firefight, or co-op. It was just a mess of ten thousand grunts and elites with fuel rod cannons and waypoints.
It's a lot better, there are interesting battles, and the environments and progression actually feel like campaign missions, and in some cases, look better than any environments we got in campaign. The missions just feel tighter, and more deliberate than before.
I guess what I'm trying to say is, I wouldn't have even considered buying a second season if it had continued the way 1-5 had gone. Now, even just playing episodes 6 and 7, I'm definitely going to buy in in the future, so long as they can prove the rest of the season is up to that standard at the minimum. They really felt that much better to me. They're learning.
I'd love for single-player/co-op expansion packs to become standard. It's been something missing from Halo forever, save for the couple Firefight maps added in the Reach DLC (though the mode just wasn't very good compared to ODST, imo).
NullPointer
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Couldn't agree more, with all of this.
Are they really? If so, this just sucks, because the next gen Xbox announcement is right behind the corner and it would be such a good moment, if you ask me.
The last years Spring Showcase was on the 1st March and I guess, this will be the date for this years Spring Showcase, too. Maybe +,- some days.
More or less my thoughts. I didn't think the first half of season 1 was that bad but it felt too much like a compromise between campaign and firefight that didn't please fans of either. The second half thus far has been a lot more focused and I think more fun. I'm interested in seeing where the story goes and I'm looking forward to the playthroughs with the FUD guys on my list. If there's a season 2 I'd definitely be interested. I'd say they've succeeded.
Throwing waves of Needler Jackals just forces the player into cover and retreat from combat, just based on the weapon they are holding. It's generally fine if one or two enemies have it, but any more and it just becomes frustrating. And with them being Jackals, the can fight back with more ease relative to the player. Sending in a wave of Crawlers has never been fun, and having them spawn in right in front of the player is even worse. Fighting hoards of Knights isn't fun.
6.1, 6.2, the giant cavern of 6.3, and sections of Infinity were moderately fun.
6.1, 6.2, the giant cavern of 6.3, and sections of Infinity were moderately fun.
Garrett 2U
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But... but... but... what about all them 20,000 human years of play time?
The feedback has been extremely positive, Spartan Ops is a success.
NullPointer
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Karl, are you playing solo or with a team? I haven't had the same problems with the needler jackals since we're usually presenting too many targets for them to focus on just one player.
Fuel rods and their damn tracking sucks on legendary. Keep your feet planted because if you jump you're dead meat from a homing fuel rod or incinerator cannon shot.
Fuel rods and their damn tracking sucks on legendary. Keep your feet planted because if you jump you're dead meat from a homing fuel rod or incinerator cannon shot.
Is that the part where Cortana upgrades your firmware so you can use active camo because that's the only thing I remember from the campaign so far.
Enter The 36 Chambers
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Anyone any good at Halo Wars? Im trying to do mission 6 on heroic under par time and im having trouble getting it done. By the time Im bringing the 5th Rhino to the spot my army gets wiped out by the outnumbering covenant forces.
Anyone have any tips?
Anyone have any tips?
Zeouterlimits
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Sprint & Personal Ordinance on a good Turf remake I played just makes me think of the wacky fiesta increased player speed custom games we'd play and realise how that it was a quaint thing to do once in a blue moon and not as the main gametype we'd play.
DieBart Sprint, Die
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Watercooler moments? Sure, it has that. Mainly telling other people how terrible Spartan Ops is.