We literally don't have the settings needed, well we do in some cases but they are modded gametypes. I know we aren't the biggest population but you can slim down a competitive game, you can't build up a casual game to be competitive. Here's a lot of the issues we have.
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We literally don't have the settings needed, well we do in some cases but they are modded gametypes. I know we aren't the biggest population but you can slim down a competitive game, you can't build up a casual game to be competitive. Here's a lot of the issues we have.
Sigh.for Over.
xxjuicesxx
Member
Its too late to keep the casuals.
You have to make a good game that they can practice and get good at. Dont cater to them and dumb the game down, they are smart enough to realize that, you make the game with a learning curve and they get the aha spark while playing and become addicted.
No matter what maps or settings you put in H4 the people will not come back.
Halo 5 cater to competitive crowd while leaving social things in like BTB.MultiTeam and Unranked Slayer.
The game will do just fine when they realize the game is good and they have a place.
You have to make a good game that they can practice and get good at. Dont cater to them and dumb the game down, they are smart enough to realize that, you make the game with a learning curve and they get the aha spark while playing and become addicted.
No matter what maps or settings you put in H4 the people will not come back.
Halo 5 cater to competitive crowd while leaving social things in like BTB.MultiTeam and Unranked Slayer.
The game will do just fine when they realize the game is good and they have a place.
K
kittens
Unconfirmed Member
Hypertrooper
Member
I saw Chris Haluke tweeting about it: "Gamespot: Spartan Ops and the Future of Halo's episodic content"
Goddamnit I will have some pretty awful rage rants like I had wtih Reach's grenades. CTF Playlist won't be touched anymore because of it. Sigh.for Over.
At least he admits that Infinity CTF is not competitive.
Bravo had a heavy hand in the Doubles playlist settings as well.
I love this.
Hypertrooper
Member
A playlist I am looking forward too. It is going to be fun!
At least he admits that Infinity CTF is not competitive.
You're being silly here. I actually like Halo 4, but there's no way you can argue loadouts have a place in classic Halo. If people perceive classic Halo to not have loadouts, then their perceptions are wrong.
Moa
Member
Dunno if you were kidding or anything, but they plan to keep Doubles as a permanent playlist.
EDIT: This is Moa, forgetting CyReN is a fucking Cartographer.
All I have to say is: lol.
While it was a positive statement produced to excite players, it shows Kevin is clearly unaware that the fanbase that is most vocal, and probably makes up the majority of the dwindling playerbase, does not care for "OP" anything. 343 is still incredibly ignorant to what the real Halo fans, the ones that still play and want to enjoy Halo 4, want.
While it was a positive statement produced to excite players, it shows Kevin is clearly unaware that the fanbase that is most vocal, and probably makes up the majority of the dwindling playerbase, does not care for "OP" anything. 343 is still incredibly ignorant to what the real Halo fans, the ones that still play and want to enjoy Halo 4, want.
K
kittens
Unconfirmed Member
Yeah, I'm pretty stoked about Doubles.
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
I'm not arguing anything about loadouts "having a place." I'm merely suggesting that the definition of "classic Halo" can be different depending on which Halo you spent the most time with. I'd bet that even HaloGaf would argue between whether Halo 1, 2 or 3 was the true "classic Halo." There is no rubric or template. It all depends on your reference game.
Mace Griffin
Neo Member
I don't believe so. Even if you remove AA's. loadouts, ordnance etc. you're still left with dumbed down shooting mechanics and very poor maps.
When I refer to shooting mechanics I mean the amount of aim assist and bullet magnetism coupled with a hitscan shot registration system. Basically there is not much skill involved in shooting, so considering its an fps and the whole point of the game is shooting its a bit game breaking. I personally think this aspect of the game is worse than everything else as its right at the core of the game.
HollovVpo1nt
Banned
Did they buff the lightrifle? That thing is 4 shot.
Moa
Member
4 shot when scoped in, 5 shot unscoped - been like that since launch.
Zeouterlimits
Member
The Spartan Ops video was frustrating for me to watch.
They'd likely agree it's the triangle at least.
Account Attempt #4
Member
Thanks solely to the DMR. I think the settings used at AGL is a great start to moving in a classic direction. The load out system should have been very restrictive from the start (ie. DMR, Boltshot, PP, plasma nades, etc.) leaving these weapons on the playing field as pickups.
Hypertrooper
Member
Even when I do enjoy Spartan Ops overall, I have to agree that the video is way too positive. But did you spot theThe Spartan Ops video was frustrating for me to watch.
They'd likely agree it's the triangle at least.
Engineer
How can it be competitive if it has Infinity Slayer and Infinity CTF?
Hydranockz
Member
I get you in a literal sense but the practical use of classic Halo is largely the more competitive settings. Loadouts are not classic. Well, the ability to mix and match anyway. Loadouts that are set and defied aren't inherently less competitive.
Poker Face
Member
Is GAF not working right for anyone else? The mobile version is fine but desktop redirects me to godaddy
edit: working again, that was weird. thanks for help below
edit: working again, that was weird. thanks for help below
Hypertrooper
Member
Desktop is working fine for me. No issues.
Hydranockz
Member
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The P of Poland
Member
After coming back to Halo after a two month hiatus, the only thing 343 seems to have accomplished is making Spartan Ops even more LOLworthy.
I mean, seriously, not a single flipping new map?
I mean, seriously, not a single flipping new map?
NullPointer
Member
There are new maps, right from the start.
Episode 6 and 7 are fucking amazing too. Battles are larger and better paced, at times becoming one very long running battle (my favorite, and reminiscent of parts of CE), or settling into Firefight like hold-your-position encounters (ODST campaign-ish).
I always dug SpOps as a terrorist hunt mode, but what they've been doing since the break has turned me into a fan of the concept.
Wish I knew what their plans were for a season 2. If they charge for it, I'd hope that could subsidize the versus map packs.
Enter The 36 Chambers
Member
Havent played the forge playlist?
Edit: Just realised you meant Spops.
Your still wrong.
The P of Poland
Member
Uh-huh. I'll have to wait until next month to find out, I suppose, because that's how long those episodes are taking to download. Episode 5 was just plain terrible. The second mission was particularly frustrating. How the fuck do you protect the scientists when they're unarmed and have a habit of charging toward the Prometheans like headless chickens.
Also, SpOps still does not scale for single player.
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Как?
Why shove medals and text to the right instead of left where its historically been?
And personally I'd rather keep ordnance centered where it is.
What is this?
NullPointer
Member
That's a big gripe alright. I don't really solo them as much anymore, preferring matchmaking if my buddies aren't around. Lag can be an issue though, so I'd actually like to see them consolidate the playlist more, and maybe have players vote on which episode to play. Of course then you'd lose story progression.
Early Spartan Ops with scoring? Or maybe some ideas of whats to come? Its from here (22 minute making-of and interviews about Spartan Ops).
Rickenslacker
Banned
Outside of the lack of any context for the screen the thing weirding me out is the Gamespot watermark.
Garrett 2U
Member
No Armor Abilities. RIP.
Infinity CTF is not in Doubles. Unless they snuck that shit in. Also, Doubles has Slayer Pro.
Random fun > fair funfor Over.
Design philosophy at 343
I wonder if dubs slayer pro is what the actual pro playlist will look like