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Classic way.
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Twilight Gap
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Exactly. You knew that when you picked up the Camo, you were rushing and making use of it by sneaking behind them for the flag pull or securing a weapon.
But Camo AA? Grab Shotty, sit in hallway all game. Or sit in the back of the map with a sniper rifle.
There's no pushing. No strategy. No teamwork. It's just selfish.
Is it too hard to ask for people to move around the map? What's the point in making them bigger if you can get everything where you're standing?
CreateNowSleepLater
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It is an absolute refusal to change their vision. If they changed one MAJOR core change they implemented then I would say they are listening. In reality, they have changed nothing.
Give me the option to turn off sprint, add descoping, remove flinch, give me Ranks in a ranked playlist.
Those ranks won't mean shit if they apply to all playlists.
CreateNowSleepLater
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I get your point. I recall that equipment was not positively received with Halo 3 but it was better than AA's.
It's a refusal to change their vision but their vision itself is blurry.
xxjuicesxx
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BTB can S my D!
Lets all chant that.
Boop Marquette...closeeeeee!
Lets all chant that.
Boop Marquette...closeeeeee!
Franklinator
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I had Davidson winning that game. Feels bad.
User 73706
Banned
It's almost like dew is fogging up their rose-tinted glasses.
And Blind for Certain affinity. Worst maps ever.
If there is one thing I have noticed with Halo 4, it is that people dislike having a lack of options and 343 has done nothing to address this. Custom Game options suck and Sound options suck. Custom options was something I was hoping 343 would carry over from Bungies Halo, and the Sound options should be expanded upon for everyones sake. I don't want to hear music during the game, and I would really love the option to turn down game sounds so I can hear my friends if I'm recording.
They can't do any harm by adding these Sound options, and CoD had these ages ago. Sorry to keep going back to CoD with things like this, but for all the flak CoD devs get, they sure know how to give us Sound options.
They can't do any harm by adding these Sound options, and CoD had these ages ago. Sorry to keep going back to CoD with things like this, but for all the flak CoD devs get, they sure know how to give us Sound options.
Silly.Mikey
Banned
To me this was so obvious. Not that every gametype should be that way but that the custom options should literally let you turn on or off anything you wanted regardless of what their vision is. That to me is the big problem with this game. It doesn't bother me that they wanted to try stuff like a CTF with no flag drops, i enjoy it just the same tbh. But It bothers me that i cant customize the gametypes to my likings though.
This is one thing Halo has always done well, until now. Custom options. And although i do not believe that this would suddenly make it king again on Live, it cant fucking hurt it.
Twilight Gap
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343 cut the Spectre...
MY Spectre...
The thing that I would have made love to in Halo 2 had there not been a digital barrier between us?
You guys, cut it?
Dongs Macabre
aka Daedalos42
343 cut the Spectre...
MY Spectre...
The thing that I would have made love to in Halo 2 had there not been a digital barrier between us?
You guys, cut it?
Don't know why. It looks pretty functional.
Wait this whole thing is fully textured and almost polished, how is this not in the game? Not even in the campaign.
CreateNowSleepLater
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lol, yeah.
Seriously though, the bulk of the sales are over. What harm could possibly come from giving the faithful the changes they want. If I was those guys just give them an option to turn off sprint. I mean who cares?
It would be different if any of there announcements changed the online population. 2 map packs and a TU and it keep dropping. Someone of authority needs to speak up over there and just put it out there. Our vision for the game has impacted the playing community in a negative way.
Change it.
This is what happens when you go Corporate. Anyone in a white collar job can easily see whats going on here. 343i is too big, to many people not talking. To many people with say over "their area" and too much BS.
xxjuicesxx
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From here on out. You should almost add the option to turn off X before you actually put X in the game. If X is a change from the previous Halo.
You do not FUCK with Halo.
And stop trying to make it CoD, if they want to play CoD theyll play the version that runs at 60fps...
No way that game was insane! and Gonzaga game is kinda tight right now! Would be insane if they lost and totallly fuck me over lol. This is great basketball!
Wahrer you need to make a salt level rising graph with your drawerings.
You do not FUCK with Halo.
And stop trying to make it CoD, if they want to play CoD theyll play the version that runs at 60fps...
No way that game was insane! and Gonzaga game is kinda tight right now! Would be insane if they lost and totallly fuck me over lol. This is great basketball!
Wahrer you need to make a salt level rising graph with your drawerings.
Enter The 36 Chambers
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Angry HaloGAF is best HaloGAF
Revenant looks cool
Revenant looks cool
User 73706
Banned
Question for Stinkles - would a Hard Sound Rifle work really good or really bad against Prometheans?
CreateNowSleepLater
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Yes. This disappointing news is uniting HaloGAF. Until I say something stupid and everyone hates me again.
Twilight Gap
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I never thought I'd say this about Halo, but an option to turn off the announcer would be glorious.
Maybe there's a glitch that causes it to spontaneously transform into a dragon?
Because you're not important. None of the hardcore Halo communities are important. The 9.8 and initial sales is all that matters. They're shitting out ancient maps from Digital Extremes and Certain Affinity and trying to milk the community while there's some semblance of interest left in Halo 4 and even though we know these maps are old turds from the scrap pile, there are people here who still get excited about them. We had people excited here because we got shadows in Forge after 5 years. I wouldn't try either if I were 343.
If there's one good thing to come out of Halo 4, it's that hopefully the community as a whole raises their expectations and hopefully 343 realizes this halfassed Houdini trick (Complex is a real Halo map, trust us! etc) with the community doesn't work anymore.
I'm sure we'll get some boring Forge environment or DMR tweak at PAX, but unfortunately that too does absolutely nothing to bring people back to the game.
I partially agree. Maybe an option to toggle certain announcements. Maybe even a classic option where you get the start of game announcement, objective announcements and multikill announcement. Nothing else. I'd like that.
Kyle. I think the main issue with Halo 4 was that all we had to go on for some time was the word of 343. We had to trust them or we wouldn't look forward to a new Halo. We had to believe that 343 would deliver. I'm hoping Halo4 was just first game teething issues. I'm hoping 343 can bring us a miracle with Halo 5. That's when most of us will be done with the franchise if they fail to deliver there.
I'm already going rental only however. I can't afford to keep pissing away money into a developer I'm not confident in supporting. If I'm impressed by Halo 5 during my rental time, I'll buy it. If not then 343 will not see anymore money from me.
Again it just says what they CAN do, not what they will. So my excitement and hope for the panel aren't that big
Zeouterlimits
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:-/ A lot of the complaints I've read today haven't had to do with the weapon tuning.
Not that it mightn't be very cool.
Halo 4 is in such a weird spot. Without a relaunch/big set of coverage and hype it'd be hard for the multiplayer to go "up" in population.
xxjuicesxx
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We actually said that a bunch here, before the game was even released.
True its really funny how they just are literally talking about adding something that lets them change stuff. If I talked about what I was going to do and then waited months to do it, my god I would be out of here so fast...and I'm watching NCAA tournament at work.
I'll hold my breathe. They said they had all the knobs and levers from the Reach TU, then set the lever to 85% Bloom then locked it in place for the rest of the game's sustain run.
I don't think that test map is on the disc. Seems that person acquired it through other means.
I don't think that test map is on the disc. Seems that person acquired it through other means.
But why would they add the ability to change things on the fly like this and then not use them?
I think he means that they might make wrong changes/changes to something that he wouldn't want changed.
Oh I'm pretty sure they will use them, but if they will show us the stuff that will be coming to MM in the next weeks is still open for confirmation.
Not that I say it won't happen, just keeping expections in check.
Didn't meant that this time, but yes I'm pretty sure they will do it like this.
Ok fair enough
Fair enough, then.
I'd love to see a real post-mortem of Halo 4, have a nice lengthy video discussing what they've learnt, could be a great way to build confidence for the next game.
I guess they're worried that anything they put out there could be turned into ammo to take shot at them by certain folks though..
That's because they have steitzer say stupid shit like distraction, comeback kill, we gotta new king, like every two seconds. Save the announcer for worthwhile stuff like multi kills or sprees.
I remember a lot of people discussing the announcements pre release and a lot of people felt a lot of things were not worth announcing, and it just ended up feeling like spam.
Twilight Gap
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Yup. When you heard the announcer before you thought "Oh shit I just did something incredible", and it'd increase your adrenaline.
Now it's like he has to announce everything from you pressing buttons to when you turn your head away from the screen. "Lost focus! Doorbell rang! Sibling entered the room! Popcorn finished popping!"
This just makes it more difficult to give callouts and more difficult to follow what's going on in the game.
I get a massive amount of them goosing. Half the time the person was already off my back because they lost sight of me or ended up switching targets after realizing I wasn't dying to him.
At least Halo doesn't have supression. That is annoying as shit in BF3.
Twilight Gap
Member
I like the Distraction medal because of how ironic it is.
Silly.Mikey
Banned
They dont have to do that. It isn't complicated what they need to do god dammit, just put customization options for everything in the game! Thats it thats all. It doesn't take a fucking genius to figure this out. You wanna add a new feature, fine add it. Now, put an option in the game type customization options for the users to turn it off. Disaster averted.
Bungie didn't do that with Reach and thats why everyone complained about it. AA's and loadouts had to be used, and people bitched. 343 didn't do it either and now everyone is complaining about Halo4.
People wanna be able to play the game the way they want, if you dont give them that option, they will bitch to no end. Reach and Halo4 are proof of this.
Good update. Have they said if there will be announcements at the PAX East panel or no?
That's pretty cool, though it is a bit.. excess, for the Covenant design style.
Dongs Macabre
aka Daedalos42
Lord Zedd also uploaded some gameplay on the test map.
The Spectre actually seems useful, unlike the Warthog.
The Spectre actually seems useful, unlike the Warthog.
Twilight Gap
Member
I don't disagree, but how can we support this without coming off as spoiled, entitled sounding brats? I mean, we all want to enjoy the game and I doubt any of us actually hate the developers or players who play differently ('cause that's just childish).
But where do we draw the line? When does it go from "I enjoy the game this way and I'd like for you to support that" to "You better put this in or I'm not playing your $%&@#"?
We're all passionate about things we love (some more than others), but I think we'd get a lot more things done (both us as a community and 343 as developers) if we'd all just communicate in open, constructive ways. I'd feel a lot better about things that were cut if there were explanations as to why. This way, I know what and how to ask for other stuff.
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