You're absolutely right. Teamwork and strategy should be encouraged, not forced down your throat.
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You're absolutely right. Teamwork and strategy should be encouraged, not forced down your throat.
Well I've never played Gears of War, but I've always been interested. I'd really love the chance to play supposedly the best game of the series.
Thanks for the consideration bro.
Gabotron ES
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Good, I'm guessing something along the lines of Ridgeline's tree and some new big rocky formations hopefully.
Maybe even some 2D bushes to add some scenification, we'll see...
lol
FUNKNOWN iXi
Member
How about getting hit with a Smoke at the top of the Blood Drive staircases? LOL you'd literally just tumble all the way down..
They have been using the same engine since Halo CE. They need to build a new one for next gen.
So here's the official press release.
It really sounds like we(those who ordered the original LE) would have to order a CD/download version. While the people who order the LE now (at a cheaper rate) get it included. :/
It was funny to see Gears characters which resemble tanks just slide down stairs, but absolutely horrible for gameplay.
Than I hope you're ready to wait another 3-4 years just for the engine to be built.
and this ^
StalkerUKCG
Banned
step 1. remove BR spread
step 2. increase movement speed and acceleration
step 3. Make BR 3sk
profit.
BUT MORE TEAMSHOT = MORE TEAMWORK = BETTER GAME. How dare you?
Might as well just have "always on" damage boost lol
I was with you until your free market analogy.
The Reach engine? Oh yeah, lots of love there.
Then you should read up.
Fast kill times scare the hell out a lot of people here. Most of those people are under the false impression that fast kill times automatically = who-sees-who-first. If only they knew that it can make the game have less of an emphasis on first shot when done right. Those people probably have never played a fast-paced arena shooter before.
Demoncarnotaur
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I think some of this concept art may be 'new':
A lot more here: http://conceptartworld.com/?p=20803
In the future, I would love to see numerous natural pieces that are connectable and stack-able so we can create hills, cliffs, etc. Strangely, the vertical cliffs in Exile look like they would work really well for this if they were made smaller.
What I really want to see from Forge in the future is Color/Palette/Texture swaps being possible.
A lot more here: http://conceptartworld.com/?p=20803
In the future, I would love to see numerous natural pieces that are connectable and stack-able so we can create hills, cliffs, etc. Strangely, the vertical cliffs in Exile look like they would work really well for this if they were made smaller.
What I really want to see from Forge in the future is Color/Palette/Texture swaps being possible.
they played it, it was called Halo CE and they constantly 3-shotted people across Blood Gulch all day and so they realized that basically Halo CE was for mountain dew chugging ADD-addled neanderthals
Yep. That game was who-sees-who-first just like CoD. Fast kill times = CoD. Long kill times = real skill = post CE Halo.
I'd be cool with 4sk, but 3sk seems like it would be crazy...
It would be fun to test it out if we could.
Syphon Filter
Member
how is that possible? wouldn't hat mean it sold over 11 million?
K
...also, I liked Gears 3 a lot and I've been playing the judgement demo a ton lately,
but not sure I should get it until they get more maps and maybe lower the price.
Only ever played the PC version's campaign co-op years ago at a friends house.
Is there still a population for the xbox multiplayer? Is it laggy?
I would definitely like to play some of it since by all accounts I seem to have missed some seminal moment in gaming by not playing Gears 1 multi.
Latvian Hitman
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Probably includes guests and rental and used copies.
It would only be crazy if we bumped it up to 3sk without increasing the movement speed. And yea, it would be cool to test out, lol. What are the odds of H3 coming to PC anyway? Sorry, I haven't been paying much attention to that.
FUNKNOWN iXi
Member
First let me say that I like this because you create a more consistent BR that takes more skill to use because of the increased movement speed and acceleration. That 3sk may look scary, but in reality that's a consistent 4-6sk from your above average player. Then..
step 4. Lower auto aim/magnetism on DMR
step 5. Remove bloom
step 6. Make DMR 4sk
profit.
The same applies here with the DMR. Also, I wonder how the DMR would feel online if you had to lead your shots like the H1 Pistol.. Would be interesting to try out if steps 4-6 were actual changes. Saving Halo, little pieces at a time.
There are objective differences between competitive game design and economic influence from the government. Also, far too much political ideology for me to engage in depth in a Halo thread.
While I do not overtly object to your assertion that movement speed should increase as aim assist decreases (I do agree that movement speed should increase), I find that my preferences would be more focused on the melee system and weapons sandbox.
I'm not convinced that all they have to do is make another CE, however.
Well, step 4 is unnecessary since multiplayer PC FPS games usually don't have auto aim to begin with. But yea, I would prefer a single shot weapon over a burst when it comes to Halo (due to how the shield/headshot mechanic works).
True, but the comparison of over-meddling obstructing the natural growth of a system is warranted. I agree though, that this is not the place to get into that side of things. In other words, create a framework that facilitates the system but doesn’t attempt to replace the system. The system in this case being two competing sides
placed in an arena using their unique, individual skills to complete an objective.
I'm not asking for another CE. They can keep all their new bells and whistles, and I think they would actually work much better if we increased the player speed, strafe and potential kill times. A larger skill-gap in the foundation of the gameplay would enhance the other aspects as well.
Are there options in custom games to increase movement speed and maybe apply a constant stream of damage boost to all players?
I'd like to try a few customs of only BRs with this if it's possible.
This gives me a friendship and caring boner, the best kind of boner.
It wont work simply because the strafe is too slow for that kind of power. It will be way too easy to land 3 shot kills and it will destroy the weapon sandbox (I hit kill sniper body shots, nuke nades, etc). We've tried a lot of different combinations of custom options over the past 5 years trying to get a faster base movement speed that, at the very least, doesn't make the strafe even worse. It doesn't work. I've been begging for an option to increase player acceleration as well as movement speed so we can have a good strafe but, like every other request, it's to no avail.
User 73706
Banned
That's called upping player damage, dude.
High kill times are balanced as long as movement speeds are equally high.
Unlimited thruster pack.
i guess i'm not surprised...
That's called upping player damage, dude.
I haven't messed with the custom game options in H4.
Wasn't sure if that was an option that got cut from the previous games.
Yeah, there's the damage multiplier option and we do have speed options. The problem is that we don't have movement acceleration and auto-aim options, though. Without those, I don't see how it's possible to make a 3sk BRs only gametype work well in H3/H4.
I guess the first thing to do is set the damage multiplier to a 3sk BR. Second thing would be to increase the movement speed until a 5-shot becomes the most common kill time. The problem in Halo when you increase the speed is that you get an insane amount of inertia and it makes it feel like you're on ice. Movement becomes super frustrating.
An auto-aim option would be great because we could turn that down by a ton so we don't have to resort to increasing the movement speed and consequently having super slippery movement. In summary we need more options if we want fast kill time Halo to be fun. Either an auto aim option OR a movement acceleration/inertia option would suffice. Having both would be perfect.
FUNKNOWN iXi
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I swear Bungie and 343 tried very, very hard to make sure all the custom options wouldn't allow players to increase damage or player speed in a realistic manner. I don't know how else they managed to prevent it despite a myriad of seemingly useful options if not by design.
Strafing is momentum based, so increasing movement speed creates an even slower strafe and ice-skating.
Increasing weapon damage to get a faster killing utility weapon ruins all the other weapons in the sandbox.
You can't control player shields independently from their health (this would allow you to "unbreak" the sandbox by increasing player health and encourage headshots).
Seriously, all we need (and I've been asking for these options since Halo 3) is 1) a player acceleration slider and 2) a health slider independet of the shield strength. Sure, there are other options that would be fantastic (an aim assist slider, for example), but those two are the big ones.
You give us those two options and we can fix a lot of our complaints with the game. Instead we get the option to have a flaming helmet when a player with 25 kills enters a certain area of the map.
Strafing is momentum based, so increasing movement speed creates an even slower strafe and ice-skating.
Increasing weapon damage to get a faster killing utility weapon ruins all the other weapons in the sandbox.
You can't control player shields independently from their health (this would allow you to "unbreak" the sandbox by increasing player health and encourage headshots).
Seriously, all we need (and I've been asking for these options since Halo 3) is 1) a player acceleration slider and 2) a health slider independet of the shield strength. Sure, there are other options that would be fantastic (an aim assist slider, for example), but those two are the big ones.
You give us those two options and we can fix a lot of our complaints with the game. Instead we get the option to have a flaming helmet when a player with 25 kills enters a certain area of the map.
Hypertrooper
Member
I hope 343i will clarify it. Does 343i have anything to do with the OST?
It would be the biggest bullshit if I didn't get the second vol for free. Hell I paid about 30 bucks more than the price now and I have to buy the second vol? WTF. Bullshit.
User 73706
Banned
Discs will be 50 GB instead of 2 GB next gen and Frankie's not so subtly suggested we may have community control over individual weapons in the future so you may be in luck.
Real talk though: would people be okay if all the AAs and Sprint got scrapped, but everyone spawned with Thruster, used it in first-person, and could shoot during its use to compensate? It'd still have its current stats and charge times.
It is the #1 thing that bothers me the most about the past Halo games. And I think my top two would be an auto-aim slider and a movement acceleration slider. I'd rather have aim assist options instead of health ones. The health option is a great idea, btw.
Gears 1 campaign was best campaign. Can't count how many times I've replayed it. A friend and I played through campaign split screen in one day, good times. I remember seeing that game for the first time on my TV, it was definitely the first real next gen game for me.
They need to bring back the survival horror aspect back.
They need to bring back the survival horror aspect back.
That's called upping player damage, dude.
High kill times are balanced as long as movement speeds are equally high.
Not quite that simple. There's a fine line both ways. For example, I wouldn't find everyone flying around under golden gun rules particularly interesting.
Rickenslacker
Banned
I had a post about this earlier in the thread after watching a stream of Binary Slayer that Reverb was playing, but I'd like this as well as having no cooldown. I want Spartans to be Mega Man X. Dashin' all day erryday.
Ideally we'd get all three, but I just don't ever see 343 giving players control of the aim assists. If we can control the player acceleration, we can at least mitigate some of the overbearing aim assists with a faster strafe.
The beauty of the health slider is that you can basically get the utility weapons to whatever you want them to be without breaking everything else in the sandbox. Since a headshot kills in one hit to an unshielded opponent with precision weapons, you can bump up the health to not only control how many shots to kill it takes, but also to reward headshots even more.
I think they actually had a player health option in Halo CE and Halo 2 (I don't recall though, I may be mistaken), but then they inexplicably removed it.
K
kittens
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Please, never put a map made on Erosion in matchmaking ever again.
Nah. Kill thruster too. If anything should stay it should be sprint. Just shorten the time lag between sprinting animation and firing animation. Make it basically instantaneous.
Remove Forge, make actual map creator with all the goodness on top of it. Profit.
TheOhrenberger
Banned
Yeah after playing through Gears 1 with a friend all I could think was "wow more games need to do this." A lot have since then, but few have captured the true feeling of coop that Gears brought.
YourExWife
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Warm Machine
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Took these two last night.
bobs...onGaf
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So whats new in matchmaking today? I did try and check on Waypoint, but that site is terrible and doesnt seem to have an easy way to find last weeks bulletin.