Steelyuhas
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Steely
Arizona is punching me in the balls right now as well.
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Arizona is punching me in the balls right now as well.
Twilight Gap
Member
The bulletin has me more interested in Forge Island, but not so much in matchmaking at this time. At least it'll be fun to forge again.
I'd rather see Firefight return.
I'd rather see Firefight return.
If it takes too much from Infninity Slayer ( Instant Respawn, Personal Ordinance) they can hype it all they want, it won't get me excited.
Also why always take these dumb names, what is with "Team Slayer" :/
Across the board in Halo 5.*
*Except in the 'Pro' playlist which will be killed two months after launch.
What is it? First i've heard of it.
And no, i don't follow Halo news anymore. Needs to be on first page of gaming side for me to notice...
Zeouterlimits
Member
Gotta hype up something constantly. Apparently.
Well Kevin Franklin said it was 343's competitive gametype so I'm guessing Legendary Slayer is more like Classic Slayer
StalkerUKCG
Banned
The Bungie/Destiny talk was kind of dull. Basically "hey look concept art" "this is how concept art is made" I get its a GDC presentation for industry folk but it was light on virtually every front.
Hype is at nothing, I have not seen enough anything to be anymore than curious and honestly if it was any other dev I would not have given it a second thought.
Hype is at nothing, I have not seen enough anything to be anymore than curious and honestly if it was any other dev I would not have given it a second thought.
lol Slayer Pro was taken out <a month after Halo 4 launched and still hasn't been put back in. I suppose Throwdown is just an evolved form of it though.
https://twitter.com/kevin_franklin/status/297419534938279936
Poker Face
Member
He said it was mixed with infinity slayer...sooooo
xxjuicesxx
Member
Isnt that what Team Throwdown is?
Tashi, you're so cute bro.
StalkerUKCG
Banned
That's to shut people up
You might play competitive games, but it doesn't matter if you don't play them competitively. Sure I play Starcraft, but 90% of the time I'm trying out some wacky bullshit strategy that is almost guaranteed to fail. Even in the ranked play, I do insane stuff.
Yea I guess. I shouldn't have said Classic Slayer. My bad. My guess on the settings it his:
Set Loadouts
MR,BR,LR, Carbine (after global rebalance)No random ordnance:Like FFA, Doubles and Throwdown
Limited set or possibly no armor abilities
Sprint enabled
Thanks bro <3
Karl, I would guess he doesn't do wacky shit. I really don't think many people do the wacky shit that you do.
StalkerUKCG
Banned
Gabotron ES
Member
No SpOps s2 makes me sad
Genesis Knight
Member
Multi Team is six teams of two.
Six teams.
Of two.
Of fucking course.
Six teams.
Of two.
Of fucking course.
StalkerUKCG
Banned
No SpOps s2 makes me sad
Nevermind. Just seen the Update. That is pretty lame
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
Welcome to Reach?
I played like 2 minutes of a game and I could see them just as any other Halo game. People complaining are seriously blind (aka stupid and try to bitch about anything).
xxjuicesxx
Member
Should be 4 teams of 3 shouldn't it? Why do they always change everything slightly just to put their mark on it.
I remember shuddup bitch was me barrow and plywood. Can we no longer shuddup bitch in multi team?
They've added JiP in for a short window in the first minute or so of the matches. It actually works nicely but once CSR comes in, that shit will be annoying.
I read this as, "for playlists that are actually competitive and matter, JiP will be tweaked accordingly. For all the other playlists, CSR doesn't matter (see Frank's answer about that above)."
they better revoke their complaints now that they know it's wrong to have a preference that is not the same as yours
Genesis Knight
Member
Exactly.
If you've got two, play in fucking Team Doubles. DOUBLES.
If you have four, shit, you've got a ton of different options.
If you have three?
Sorry, we're 343i, you're fucked. People definitely didn't play Multi Team because they wanted a loud, fun way to play with three people. Noooo.... Everyone played that and said 'damn', wish it was two-man squads.
Twilight Gap
Member
Wasn't it like this in H2? It was like it in Reach initially until they bumped up to 4 teams of 3. I much preferred it that way, but it meant losing Rocket Race support as mentioned below
Not keen on individual CSR ratings though. Didn't exactly work in Arena...
Multiteam in H3 was teams of two. That's the only way Rocket Race would have worked, and why it was changed to Rocket Hog Race in Reach when the team size was bumped up.
There are legitimate reasons that people don't want them to be in the same style as other waypoints - it might not be a huge deal, but the red visual elements really did stand out from every other waypoint in past games. There's also very few dominantly red maps in Halo multiplayer, where Halo 4 has plenty of light blue-white hues (see: Haven, any Ravine map). The closest thing to a Haven/new X comparison in 4 with the old style X waypoint would be Exile's oranges.
Your constant condescension doesn't help anything.
There are legitimate reasons that people don't want them to be in the same style as other waypoints - it might not be a huge deal, but the red visual elements really did stand out from every other waypoint in past games. There's also very few dominantly red maps in Halo multiplayer, where Halo 4 has plenty of light blue-white hues (see: Haven, any Ravine map). The closest thing to a Haven/new X comparison in 4 with the old style X waypoint would be Exile's oranges.
Genesis Knight
Member
Not sure. I only started playing it in Reach when it was 4x3.
It just sucks because I've been talking two guys back into Halo with death Xs and Multi-Team. And they already like to comment on everything wrong with Halo 4 and say how much 343i blew it...
Now they have pale Xs that disappear in seconds and have no off-screen indicators.
And multi team that we'll never play.
Can't wait to hear them gripe. It's just frustrating. :\
Uuuuh if they're the same color as all the other icons, waypoints, and ordinances then I believe you are wrong and the vast majority is right.
The Henery
Member
Halo 3 had teams of two in multi team. It has nothing to do with 343 putting their stamp on it really.
Twilight Gap
Member
I understand how that's like. I edited my other post back.
I must be thinking of a custom gametype then. I'd play so many customs that the gametypes tend to become a bit mixed up and ambiguous
Wow, the enemy team already had a flag cap and were about to get another. I'm happy I quit if that was all in the first minute.
Reach's X's are white, but the indicators as a whole are combo white/red, which arguably allows them to stick out more consistantly than any monochrome combination (though they could probably do with being more vibrant).
Halo 4's white-only indicators, on the other hand, have no such strengths and use a far less effective colour for standing out in Halo 4 than red.
xxjuicesxx
Member
In H3 it was like 4 or 5 teams of 2 though so it was overall less players wasn't it? I'm having a hard time remembering H3.
I don't know if it's exactly 1 minute. But it seems to be around that.
Also, there may have been only 1 or 2 guys on your team before you Joined in Progress with potentially a few other teammates.
Also, let's at least wait and play this new Multiteam before we shit on it. Playlist was always just for stat whoring so the more enemies the better. It's just going to come down to maps and settings
The X color complaints are just salt, I think, though I haven't played yet today so I can't tell if the arrow related to it is red or if the service tag shows up like in Reach. The only valid complaint here is that the X doesn't last long enough (and the fact that the X moves with the body, to a degree, but even that isn't horrible).
Gabotron ES
Member
Forge Island additions are sounding good.
If we go with the high end of that estimate and assume 10 big islands, plus my assumption that the big island is 80x80WUs, that's 800 WU space from the islands to the edge of the map.
Forge World's space, ignoring the fact that a lot of it is not Forgeable:
Forge Island's space, with the assumption that big island is 80WUx80WU... and I deleted 200 WU from each side to make it a more conservative guess. It should be noted that coordinates in Reach and Halo 4 cannot go past 1000 or -1000 or else it'll wrap around when you try to edit it, so you can't place anything past 1000 WUs anyway from the center of the map
So basically, they just said "fuck it" and went to the limits of the engine (or file format, whichever one sounds better to you)
tl;dr GOD DAMN THAT'S A LOT OF SPACE
Yeah, it was four teams of two for a total of 8 players in the match. I don't know what gametypes in Halo 4 really work with six teams, where if it were four they could probably throw in 3 Ball (if that is still possible) as filler and have it work reasonably well. It's gonna be a little weird.
Twilight Gap
Member
Wow. So I was as incorrect as I could go when I assumed Forge World was bigger. That's just going off of what we have currently though, but I think it's safe to say there's a lot of space on Forge Island. That and the news about the natural palette has me more interested.
Since it's free I don't see why the hell not.
YourExWife
Member
Why implement CSR in all playlists? For example, it doesn't fit the spirit of Action Sack and risks making everything hyper-competitive.
Plastic Hassle
Because CSR deliberately isnt exposed directly in the game, there will be an automatic and significant reduction in the amount and type of abuse, grinding and garbage that, and the natural selection that our community will do as it relates to the importance of CSR game types. That is to say, nobody will really care about the wackier modes, but lots of people will care about the more precise, competitive modes.
Frank
Visible ranks aside - we've already gone in circles on this argument - can I have some of what he's smoking? Just because the gametypes are "wacky" people aren't going to try ranking up in them? ugh...
Using the same logic as he does for the Waypoint-only nature of the ranks, the very presence of ranks in these goof-off playlists/gametypes will encourage the behavior he's so afraid of.
Never-ending bullshit.
Plastic Hassle
Because CSR deliberately isnt exposed directly in the game, there will be an automatic and significant reduction in the amount and type of abuse, grinding and garbage that, and the natural selection that our community will do as it relates to the importance of CSR game types. That is to say, nobody will really care about the wackier modes, but lots of people will care about the more precise, competitive modes.
Frank
Visible ranks aside - we've already gone in circles on this argument - can I have some of what he's smoking? Just because the gametypes are "wacky" people aren't going to try ranking up in them? ugh...
Using the same logic as he does for the Waypoint-only nature of the ranks, the very presence of ranks in these goof-off playlists/gametypes will encourage the behavior he's so afraid of.
Never-ending bullshit.
It's not much of a technical achievement, but I appreciate that they're being slightly less stupid about RTB barriers than they and Bungie have been in the past.
It's not going to do much in terms of more forging opportunities, but there's no reason not to have that sort of space, and it'll probably add a tiny bit of visual variety for free.
Maybe we'll see some people taking advantage of Halo 4's slow, arcing tank projectiles to give us ridiculously gametypes where you try to shell the other team? I dunno.
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I'm not sure how I feel about opaque water. Less opportunities for actually using the water, but it *will* be easier on the poor Xenos in your 360 than Forge World carrying out alpha blending on a sea floor and water.
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