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[The Librarian]

And then people would have bitched that dates and locations were changed. There's not a winning situation here for them in some people's eyes.

Huh? Not the dates of the events from the book, but Bungie did not have to start out the game on July 24th, 2552. It could have started on August 30th, 2552, and gone from there. No, it wasn't fiction restraints, but Bungie just wanted to do their own thing...which I can respect and would've been fine with if the final product was better than what we got in the novel, but it wasn't, so the blame is on them for mucking with the fiction.

 

[FyreWulff]

Huh? Not the dates of the events from the book, but Bungie did not have to start out the game on July 24th, 2552. It could have started on August 30th, 2552, and gone from there. No, it wasn't fiction restraints, but Bungie just wanted to do their own thing...

But that's why I like Bungie. They do their own thing.

which I can respect and would've been fine with if the final product was better than what we got in the novel, but it wasn't, so the blame is on them for mucking with the fiction.

That sure is an opinion, so I can already see we're at an impasse here.

If there's a losing situation, it's 1) changing the story 2) for the worse and 3) not providing a good story for Noble Team that justifies it. The story within a story framework didn't have to be a losing proposition. It could have been wonderful. Heck, they basically did that with ODST, though the narrative eye was off Earth for much of the story. Look at how that game took key events in the Halo 2 story and folded in the ODST's tale around it: the slip space event over New Mombasa, the collapse of the space elevator. It enriched the canon while telling a compelling narrative all its own - without contradicting what came before.

I see Fall of Reach as bonus content. Other people put it on a high pedestal. Even then, Reach still fits with Fall of Reach. But then again, we're in a universe where a Spartan was explained as being able to fight time travelling ninjas by telling people to "Shut your face".

 

[GhaleonEB]

And then people would have bitched that dates and locations were changed. There's not a winning situation here for them in some people's eyes. But then again, The Fall of Reach was a pretty meh book for me.

If there's a losing situation, it's 1) changing the story 2) for the worse and 3) not providing a good story for Noble Team that justifies it. The story within a story framework didn't have to be a losing proposition. It could have been wonderful. Heck, they basically did that with ODST, though the narrative eye was off Earth for much of the story. Look at how that game took key events in the Halo 2 story and folded in the ODST's tale around it: the slip space event over New Mombasa, the collapse of the space elevator. It enriched the canon while telling a compelling narrative all its own - without contradicting what came before.

Reach did none of those things.

But that's why I like Bungie. They do their own thing.

And with Reach, they did it very badly (from a story angle).

 

[Gazzawa]

It's fake anyway.
/realist

there goes my whole summer

 

[Blueblur1]

I totally agree with Ghal and others. Because of the cinematics and overall plot, Halo 2's campaign is my favorite of the series. If 343i even attempt to match Halo 2's cinematics it will already be better than Reach. I'm hoping for the best.

 

[StalkerUKCG]

Among the collectors of us, it was already known for a year. But I do think the most forgot the announcement. ThreeA is doing Halo figures. Who is ThreeA? ThreeA is a company which does high quality status. One of the founder is Ashley Wood, the guy who did MGS Portable Ops cutscenes, the cover of the Art Of Building Worlds limited edition book. Now kotaku showed the first pic of a Halo Figure. It's Carter. But it is the best looking Carter until yet. Give me the Anniversary and Halo 4 Chief please!

Edit.: Btw ThreeA is producing the badass Metal Gear: REX.

Id kill for the entire set of noble team and Chief. The quality is fantastic but im expecting a pretty high price tag. Now im working hopefully i can grab it but it will be a shame if they only do carter.

Also

default noble 6 is best 6
Im ordering dominos

 

[CyReN]

343i community playdate thursday.

 

[Hypertrooper]

Halo 4 must be the Halo 2 of this generation.

 

[StalkerUKCG]

Halo 4 must be the Halo 2 of this generation.

If it is, am die

 

[Rickenslacker]

Halo 4 must be the Halo 2 of this generation.

The timing seems right. Does that mean it'll play really badly out of the gate?

 

[CyReN]

Halo 4 must be the Halo 2 of this generation.

I think that was already Halo 3. If this was the time for Halo to "comeback", this is it though.

 

[Booshka]

Halo 4 will be Call of Duty 4: Space Warfare.

 

[Ramirez]

Halo 4 must be the Halo 2 of this generation.

Some of you are just setting yourselves up to fall so hard...

 

[Hydranockz]

Some of you are just setting yourselves up to fall so hard...

By setting ourselves up for a bug ridden online multiplayer? That sounds like low expectations to me.

 

[Hypertrooper]

I think that was already Halo 3. If this was the time for Halo to "comeback", this is it though.

Halo 3 would not be the same without the stuff Halo 2 did. Halo 2 set up the universe of Halo 3. It set up the whole universe. Without Halo 2's ending, we would not have seen the Halo 3 hype. I think the combination of Chief's famous line at the end, the (shitty) cliff-hangar and the ending of the trilogy were the basic condition for the hype. Of course Microsoft's marketing campaign did a lot but I think it would not have been the same.

Some of you are just setting yourselves up to fall so hard...

Of course. But after Reach, I can survive everything. Or I hope.

 

[ViewtifulJC]

What about the rumors that BO2 is a Future Warfare game? Two sci-fi CODs in one year? One month? Maybe the same day!?

Back to the cutscenes, I do like Uncomfortable Silence. There's a lot of tension between the various Covenant races right now, and I like how Truth tries to downplay it to the Arbiter. "Do you know, Arbiter, the Elites have threaten to resign?...Because of this...exchange of hats?"

 

[StalkerUKCG]

Anyone got a 48 hour XBL code for me?

PM kthnxbai

 

[The Librarian]

Halo 4 must be all the Halos of all time.

 

[Zeouterlimits]

Some of you are just setting yourselves up to fall so hard...

Happens every time. Partially blame the marketing.

Halo 4 will be Call of Duty 4: Space Warfare.

Master Chief is... Shampoo MacTavish who's going to "make shit get real" with Starship Captain Price.

343i community playdate thursday.

343I with no love for Europeans =P

 

[kylej]

Halo 4 will be Call of Duty 4: Space Warfare.

pretty much

 

[Gazzawa]

By setting ourselves up for a bug ridden online multiplayer? That sounds like low expectations to me.

there will be plenty of time for discussion during black screen.

 

[WJD]

Spire is absolutely diabolical. How in the world is it still in rotation and more importantly, how the hell does it always seem to get majority vote? What do these kids see in it that I don't?

 

[FyreWulff]

Halo 3 would not be the same without the stuff Halo 2 did. Halo 2 set up the universe of Halo 3. It set up the whole universe. Without Halo 2's ending, we would not have seen the Halo 3 hype. I think the combination of Chief's famous line at the end, the (shitty) cliff-hangar and the ending of the trilogy were the basic condition for the hype. Of course Microsoft's marketing campaign did a lot but I think it would not have been the same.

Being able to go to the store and buy Halo 3 Game Fuel (tm) and then go to Burger King to eat a dinner with my Halo 3 Master Chief cup(tm)(r) was pretty surreal.

 

[Hydranockz]

there will be plenty of time for discussion during black screen.

Capcom don't have patents for "Games during Host Migration". 343 has a chance to shine here.

 

[Ramirez]

By setting ourselves up for a bug ridden online multiplayer? That sounds like low expectations to me.

You forget, they're looking through Striker's eyes.

 

[feel]

Halo 4 must be the Halo 2 of this generation.

Setting expectations very low for campaign gameplay and day one multiplayer, that's smart.

 

[Gui_PT]

All I want from the multiplayer is for it to be fun.

I don't want to get those "bullshit kills". By that, I mean, losing an encounter knowing I should've won because of cheap tricks

When I got killed in Halo 3, I knew it was because the other player was better than me(usually).

As for the campaign, I do get the feel 343 are trying to get that full 80's mysterious sci-fi vibe going. I do have high expectations about that.

 

[Booshka]

Being able to go to the store and buy Halo 3 Game Fuel (tm) and then go to Burger King to eat a dinner with my Halo 3 Master Chief cup(tm)(r) was pretty surreal.

343i should partner with Taco Bell to make a Cortana themed Dorito's Loco Taco.

 

[Homeboyd]

343i should partner with Taco Bell to make a Cortana themed Dorito's Loco Taco.

Jesus H

 

[Fracas]

343i should partner with Taco Bell to make a Cortana themed Dorito's Loco Taco.

Om nom nom.

 

[ViewtifulJC]

I would love to chow down on Cortana's taco.


...wait

 

[FyreWulff]

343i should partner with Taco Bell to make a Cortana themed Dorito's Loco Taco.

I think there's an upcoming Cool Ranch Doritos Taco that's blue actually. Can't remember where I saw it.

Taco Bell favors Red Team.

 

[Poker Face]

343i should partner with Taco Bell to make a Cortana themed Dorito's Loco Taco.

but taco bell is so awful...

 

[Zeouterlimits]

Real classy.

 

[Fracas]

but taco bell is so awful...

While eating Taco Bell- "This is pretty good, and it's crazy cheap too!"

Ten minutes afterward, and for the next few days- "Oh my god I'm dying"

Is it worth it?

Spoiler

yes

 

[CyReN]

343i should partner with Taco Bell to make a Cortana themed Dorito's Loco Taco.

Ironically cool ranch taco comes out this fall...finish the taco.

 

[ViewtifulJC]

While eating Taco Bell- "This is pretty good, and it's crazy cheap too!"

Ten minutes afterward, and for the next few days- "Oh my god I'm dying"

Is it worth it?

Spoiler

yes

This happened to me this week. Sunday, "MMM, Taco Bell"

Monday, "arrrrrgh FUCK YOU TACO BELL"

Worth it

 

[Gui_PT]

What about Chipotle?

 

[Karl2177]

I wanna make Cortana's taco pop like Ortega does to Shawn Johnson.

 

[GhaleonEB]

While eating Taco Bell- "This is pretty good, and it's crazy cheap too!"

Ten minutes afterward, and for the next few days- "Oh my god I'm dying"

Is it worth it?

Spoiler

yes

Heh. Reminds me of child birth. Women are programmed to forget how awful it is; a few months later they're saying, "that wasn't so bad...." Yes it was! I was there. It was bad and you did not enjoy it. It's my job to remind my wife of this.

I kinda wish someone would do the same for me when I'm considering getting Taco Bell. Their five layer burrito is so, so yummy. But I pay for it dearly a few hours later. So does anyone else in proximity.

 

[Booshka]

What about Chipotle?

Chipotle doesn't capture Halo's core audience quite like Taco Bell, if you want Halo to be back on top, you gotta go mainstream.

 

[ViewtifulJC]

Aint got Chiptole in Texas.

We do have Freebirds though, and that shit is GODLIKE.

 

[Poker Face]

Chipotle doesn't capture Halo's core audience quite like Taco Bell, if you want Halo to be back on top, you gotta go mainstream.

i'd prefer gamer fuel to come back rather than taco bell.

 

[Karl2177]

Lunchtime Halo anyone?

 

[Homeboyd]

Aint got Chipotle in Texas.

Yes we do

 

[Gui_PT]

We have a couple of Starbucks over here. Do you guys have Starbucks over there?

 

[Stinkles]

We have a couple of Starbucks over here. Do you guys have Starbucks over there?

I haven't seen any. It's a coffee place, right? Pretty rare in the US TBH.

 

[Booshka]

i'd prefer gamer fuel to come back rather than taco bell.

Why not have both, chow down on a Cortana Taco and drink some Halo 4 Gamer Fuel that looks

Spoiler

and tastes

like the coolant in the level Keyes from Halo CE.

 

[Hypertrooper]

We have a couple of Starbucks over here. Do you guys have Starbucks over there?

All I do know is that America has a lot of Subways and Dunkin' Donuts.

 

[ViewtifulJC]

Yes we do

I...have no idea why I confused Chipotle with In-N-Out, and even then we have some of those in Dallas.

Confirmed dumbass status, pay me no mind