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Halo |OT3| Remember Reach?
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The Librarian
Banned
*Replaying the Halo series, starts with Halo 1, gets to "Truth and Reconciliation," realizes he forgot about Reach, then switches discs.*
Kyle loves wrestling firehoses, he should be excited.
This thread is getting way too predictable; thankfully Diablo 3 is coming out soon.
No bloom DMR in MLG seems to work just fine.
Gabotron ES
Member
I have the feeling Spartan Ops will play as shit on my box, I was so pumped for Reach's Firefight and then it became a laggy as fuck and slow-mo like experience for me.
If this mode is 343's Invasion and Firefight replacement (it seems like that from some Frankie comments) and it continues to run like shit... *sigh* no thanks
If this mode is 343's Invasion and Firefight replacement (it seems like that from some Frankie comments) and it continues to run like shit... *sigh* no thanks
Hydranockz
Member
So when Wu says recoil is very easy to control, we should assume that he means for casual players like himself and that, in reality, we should wait until a better player plays it? I can't see that logic. Help.
ElzarTheBam
Member
Taken from a terrible episode.You and this wierd ass show man.
Zeouterlimits
Member
I would have said I liked Bloom and Reach as a whole for weeks.
First impressions don't mean much ultimately. (I mean this as a general thing, in this case I'd be more likely to agree with Wu/you.)
Hydranockz
Member
Yeah, I can agree with that.
Tha Robbertster
Member
You and this wierd ass show man.
Show is very good, but I guess that's just your bad taste
The Librarian
Banned
Yup. This time I'm not going to post any impressions of campaign without the caveat of them being first impressions. The turn around I've felt about Reach's campaign since release is remarkable when I think about it.
Elzar in nutshellShow is very good, but I guess that's just your bad taste
Killa KC did test the game and it was at the MLG offices so that's something. A lot of the guys there too are former players that have a lot of experience in competitive Halo. I'm sure they addressed what they liked and thought.
The biggest problem with Halo Reach bloom is it's random when spammed, yes it does work at distance when paced but if it can be spammed and work at short distance it hold no real merit to try and pace. From what's been said it seems they've "fixed" it. I can't say much until I play or see gameplay of it so I can't hate/like it.
ElzarTheBam
Member
Every time I play reach campaign now, I approach it in a state of apathy.
Show is very good, but I guess that's just your bad taste
Elzar in nutshell
I would use the word 'refined', yes, I have refined taste.
Gabotron ES
Member
It does, even better if it had a locked rate of fire BUT MLG's set of weapons is very reduced compared to Reach's "normal" sandbox. DMR works as the versatile and deadly all-uses weapon but you will be facing people with ARs, Plasma Pistols, Neddlers... you have to give these folks a chance.
Well you also think it's a good idea to have a white flash across your screen if you get shot in the head so there's that.
squidhands
Member
You did it right the first time, unless you're the type of completionist that actually watches Star Wars: Episode 1 to start things off.
Just play Lone Wolf, watch the ending cut scene and be done with it. Best part of the game right there.
Tha Robbertster
Member
Maybe because he was also playing against casual players, the recoil didn't matter that much? I mean, bloom is also a lot less annoying when you play against bad players because you get the kills anyway. So maybe that's why Wu didn't notice the recoil that much in the games he played.
Just to clarify, I'm really not bothered by recoil (as long as it's true to its description given here). Just playing Devil's advocate here.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
The best point I saw against bloom I saw Ram bring up. It's the fact that it destroys multiple engagements. If you get in a fight with another guy and either kill him and he runs and another guy shows up you're effectively fucked/handicapped (weapon wise) against this new guy and that should never be the case. Even if you perfectly 5 shot the first guy and take no damage you're handicapped because your bloom is wide. Hopefully 343 listened and any element that could do that in Halo 4 is removed or not even considered to be added.
Didn't say white flash. Some element to disorient the player, not necessarily a flash although it's the word I used. My fault for not really getting that across, I suppose. It was a means to an end; if there is an alternative to incentivizing headshots in firefights then I'm open to it.
And even then, has nothing to do with my supreme taste in American animated television shows. That episode got shit done.
Bloom's not universal in Halo 4. It's implemented on weapons like the DMR which are not designed to be donging on multiple people at once.
Hey, I used donging in a sentence. Am I HaloGAF certified yet?
Slightly Live
Dirty tag dodger
It might be a "replacement" for Firefight, sure, but Invasion is getting dropped not replaced. =)
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
No offense dude, I can see your discussion points, but you do tend to say something negative in nearly every single post you make. It just makes it seem like you want the game to fail, not that you wish to discuss the potential issues. Just my observation.
I can see some talking points in your posts, but when a majority of the posts you make are negative, or making fun of people for some reason or another the actual points you make begin to be glossed over.
I agree with the fact that it does get off-topic in here but hey, it's a community and there hasn't been Halo 4 news forever.
You do bring an interesting dynamic to HaloGaf though, for sure.
The best thing for me about Reach is that the playspaces are fantastic, the level design is just great and one of the unsung plusses of Reach.
The story however, just misses every mark and feels like jumbled mess.
Gabotron ES
Member
So 343 will just pretend Reach never happened and completely kill a gametype which has proven to be pretty popular?
Elites vs Spartans Invasion might be gone but that doesn't mind they can cook a similar gametype with Megalo and release it (after launch?).
Invasion is a pretty crazy experience, as I said before it's the only popular gametype from Reach's ones if you don't take Headhunter and Stockpile into account :lol
inb4 "but resources hurr durr"
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
I can agree with that to a point. It can certainly place a hard limit on a weapon's capability against a static quality of opponent, but also can prove to be frustrating when a player feels cheated out of a kill because of the game. Where do you stand on recoil (the trending upwards of the muzzle during fire)?
On that front, if they pretend Reach doesn't exist and look toward ODST for Firefight inspiration then I'm all about that shit. They're incorporating it, or something similar, into Spops, so it's not completely gone.
...I typed that entire paragraph not knowing you were talking about Invasion. I like Invasion, but it could be heftily improved. It didn't feel as epic and intuitive as I had hoped.
On that front, if they pretend Reach doesn't exist and look toward ODST for Firefight inspiration then I'm all about that shit. They're incorporating it, or something similar, into Spops, so it's not completely gone.
...I typed that entire paragraph not knowing you were talking about Invasion. I like Invasion, but it could be heftily improved. It didn't feel as epic and intuitive as I had hoped.
Garrett 2U
Member
No way, it is super easy to DMR.
Also the kill times have a lot to do with it.
Looks like H4 BR shoots faster than Reach DMR.
Try playing DMR with 4 shot kills and see how fun it is.
You'll never be able to out DMR anyone with decent aim.
And honestly, people aren't standing still when you shoot them, they are always moving, you are always realigning your aim.
You won't notice if there is a few millimeters of recoil in medium to short range battles.
But it will nerf the BR at long range where the targets are smaller, I think that is the intent of recoil on BR.
heh
why did i get the reference ugh
Kyle is seriously like those WoWplaying kids that love the game so much, but also seem to want it to fail more than anyone else. He obviously isn't completely uninformed like all those WoW kids, so that's a plus, but asking for no recoil? C'mon son.
HiredN00bs
Member
jk kj
Yeah, what a crazy thing to ask for. No recoil in a Halo game; it's as if he actually thinks the previous games had none!
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
I've played 4-shot DMR and it's great. Only really works for 2v2 in Reach but with a slightly lower rate of fire it could work easily for 4v4s.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
It's always the same people who stir up shit and whip their dick out, and the same people taking offense or trying to calm everybody down, let's all hold hands and post funny pictures.
This thread should just be bombed from orbit. We'll pick up the pieces in June when there's something to talk about and the obvious divide in personalities isn't so prominent to be dwelled on.
This thread should just be bombed from orbit. We'll pick up the pieces in June when there's something to talk about and the obvious divide in personalities isn't so prominent to be dwelled on.
I wonder if Take 2 will release GTA V this year now.
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
Hey, the past games had armor lock, dual wielding, magic pistols, etc. Should we bring them back too?
This is a fantastic time to ask if there are any communities that run through OTs as fast as us. We're almost on the fifth OT in as many months, I believe.
K
kittens
Unconfirmed Member
Recoil seems like an unsavory addition to the BR to me, but it does seem pretty tame, and I'm not too torn up about it.
Also: 11 sleeps
Edit : Actually, I want to address the "HaloGAF talks about too much off topic shit" thing. I think it's a valid complaint, but it's not one I share. I personally really enjoy the current culture of HaloGAF, and while certain OT topics annoy me (Game of Thrones, football), I'm willing to put up with it. HaloGAF is centered around Halo, but it's not just about Halo anymore. My question is: what do you all propose we do? Complaining and shitting on other people's fun isn't a good option. Should there be a separate thread for people who want to shoot the shit or something? Or...?
Also: 11 sleeps
till I get my purple 3DS! So excited.
Edit : Actually, I want to address the "HaloGAF talks about too much off topic shit" thing. I think it's a valid complaint, but it's not one I share. I personally really enjoy the current culture of HaloGAF, and while certain OT topics annoy me (Game of Thrones, football), I'm willing to put up with it. HaloGAF is centered around Halo, but it's not just about Halo anymore. My question is: what do you all propose we do? Complaining and shitting on other people's fun isn't a good option. Should there be a separate thread for people who want to shoot the shit or something? Or...?
ElzarTheBam
Member
StalkerUKCG
Banned
"New" interview with Josh Holmes
spock if mold
Nothing really interesting just more of the stuff we already know
Got it
spock if mold
Nothing really interesting just more of the stuff we already know
Got it
HiredN00bs
Member
Sounds like a family.
Gabotron ES
Member
There's ALWAYS room for improvement, absolutely.
I have had pretty awesome moments with the gametype but that's because it's what I mostly play nowadays. The more you play the more in control you're of the whole situation... I already said it but I keep discovering new routes, ledges and jumps the more I play, that's pretty awesome since the game is a year old :lol
Jetpacking from the Spire to the cap point, hiding over the Pelican just to drop on a spartan and stoping the core
lol hate messages), using Phantoms' plasma turrer to defend the refinery (that shit eat shields!)... and while most people will yell about how overpowered shotgun loadout is I'll just pick my concussion rifle and proceed to shit on them.Shit won't change.
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
I imagine that's the case simply to keep it from being a long range weapon since even a little recoil at long range will make a huge difference in keeping on target. So it's good for short/medium range, but shit at long range where the DMR has no recoil but a little bloom to make it medium/long range.
ViewtifulJC
Banned
It's kinda like a big family reunion where it's clear that not everybody likes each other, but everybody is here for one reason so they push on through anyway and try to stick to the people they like
KyleJ/Letters/Juices/Overdozz - "Yeah, this is gonna suck"
OtherOne/HeckFu/Elzar/Stalker/etc - "Hey no it won't"
Gabo - Does anybody like Invasion like me
"Everyone else - "NO!"
Gabo - D:
I'm kind of indifferent on recoil, but I don't see how adding recoil plays into COD, none of those guns have significant recoil, that's more of BF's thing.
Why do you hate the good things in life?
It's kinda like a big family reunion where it's clear that not everybody likes each other, but everybody is here for one reason so they push on through anyway and try to stick to the people they like
KyleJ/Letters/Juices/Overdozz - "Yeah, this is gonna suck"
OtherOne/HeckFu/Elzar/Stalker/etc - "Hey no it won't"
Gabo - Does anybody like Invasion like me
Everyone else except Trey - "NO!"
Gabo - D:
I'm on your side, Gab.
But everything else is rock solid correct. And even what went down last page (100ppp master race) wasn't hostile.