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Halo |OT4| Trust's a Tough Thing to Come by These Days
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Barrow Roll
Member
Wrong, you'll just have obscene screen tearing. That's what Vsync is for.
VivaciousJazzy
Member
Thrusters look promising:
It's the only first person video I could find of it.
I perspective-cropped the screen into place from the IGN video.
(Taking out the watermark the process)
It doesn't look as fast I had hoped from first person.
Although, that might be because he's going up hill.
I hope this doesnt end up being as annoying as evade. Can you only go forward with it?
K
kittens
Unconfirmed Member
I get shot, I retreat or use cover. Quick base speed aids that, which is part of why Reach's combat is so lacking. Sprint helps, but also makes retreating too easy.
Also: situational awareness. Knowing when someone is near you. Team work. Using call outs. All of these things mitigate the problem you're describing, which really isn't a problem at all, but a crucial part of high level play.
The shield charging sound as the THC logo pops up is genius.
What would screen tearing look like on Pong? Inquiring minds.
Zoso Achilles
Member
I think thrusters will be the first AA I try in this game, if available.
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
Risen, 789, I'm on now if you want to play.
Rickenslacker
Banned
From some brief looks at other vids, it seems like you can go back and side to side with it as well. Unlike evade though it only holds one activation per charge.
thezerofire
Banned
I think it's any direction, but you can only use it once, and it doesn't look like it goes all that far and obviously the screen turns white
Um, you aren't going to be in scope anyway in these situations.
And the option that you didn't list up there is to shoot back, which is the problem.
Thrusters look promising:
It's the only first person video I could find of it.
I perspective-cropped the screen into place from the IGN video.
(Taking out the watermark the process)
It doesn't look as fast I had hoped from first person.
Although, that might be because he's going up a hill.
IGN has professional video makers but they can't film for shit.
Are there any portable video recording devices that work as with an HDMI pass-through?
That would be Ideal, just unplug the HDMI from the monitor into the device and plug the other end back into the monitor.
Won't be available right away. Gotta unlock it first. That is, unless the pre-determine, map-specific (assuming those are still in) loadouts include it.
And yeah, it looks fun, cool. Evade is neither, though it is useful.
VivaciousJazzy
Member
Hope you like this guys
I'm pretty sure Nexy has been uploading this all day on super slow hotel internet.
that is true, with only one use it would be a much better ability to deal with and level the field.
I think it was u4ix, Jazzy or APK that thought of it, it was so funny when it came up on skype and we all started screaming because of how awesome the idea was.
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because i always get the last post..
Hands On HALO 4 impressions SPRINT E3 2012
Looks just like the Reach version, but... purpler. I was kind of hoping for something more different looking, like the change from H3 Carbine to H4 Carbine, but at least it's based on the best version of the Needler yet.
Eh, I'm not really a huge fan of the Halo 3 version. I think the firing rate's a bit too slow, whereas the Reach version has a better balance of speed, accuracy, and shots to kill. I'm hoping the Halo 4 version will be balanced based on move speed and such to work similarly.
When it comes tot he Needle Rifle, I could honestly take it or leave it. If it was added alongside the Carbine, I think it would need some significant changes to make it justifiable. Although... now that I think about it, a three shot burst Needle Rifle does sound pretty great...
RebornYeti
Member
Fine we can have both! :lol
I guess if 343 had to choose one of each, it should be the Carbine (which thankfully is already in) and the Beam Rifle.
P.S. Sentinel Beam needs to come back.
I'm pretty sure it's all directions.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCiGiVqgqTA&t=0m30s
In that vid, right before the guy explodes with the plasma, the other guy thruster packs backwards. (It's the clip right before the sword assassination)
I did say a mix, didn't i? Did i?
Anyway, Reach Needler is way too weak against shielded targets. Or at least it has too few ammo per magazine, can't kill two people with one magazine unless they do not have shields on the first place.
Halo 3's Needler is slower but it is far more powerful, if less homing. I think i do prefer Reach Needler overall though.
EDIT once i get to continue building my map, definetly adding a couple of Needlers on it.
The Librarian
Banned
Reach's Needler was ruined by the fact that it took until the needles hit flesh in order to super combine. Takes too long to kill with it, and it's not as useful in campaign. Halo 3's was perfect.
Zoso Achilles
Member
That's what I'm saying, maybe it'll be one of the map presets.
I totally read that as 'Sentimental Beam' haha. It could be an interesting weapon!
K
kittens
Unconfirmed Member
You're saying that if someone's scoped out to shoot you long distance, you're at a disadvantage because you can't scope out to shoot them. To me, the problem there is that you're even trying to engage in that battle at all. If you're at a disadvantage, then retreat. Wait for your shields to recharge, get a better vantage point, close some distance, whatever. Don't bother with a losing battle.
And, I guess I dont see a problem with losing when you get shot first. Like I said before, there's ways to avoid those situations. Radar, situational awareness, team work. But if, despite all those things, someone still gets the drop on you, then they deserve the kill.
And again: Reach's shitty movement and strafe speeds made this a bigger problem. Hopefully you're better able to dodge and juke in Halo 4.
I've already started thinking of it as the Spartan Scoot. Ass sparks FTW.
Tolerable? Paradiso is the shit and that one custom variant (Utopie?) of it is equally horrible. No excuse to have either on any playlist.
Hitmonchan107
Member
I'm just happy folks found it useful.
I have given you at least 10 clicks today alone.
The Halo 3 Needler has a slow rate of fire and follows players much less. Every time I use it in 3 it's like shooting purple poop at enemies. It's actually pretty good in Reach.
Godlike against Jetpackers. Though it kills a tad too slow regardless.
I always though Reach's Needler being like an improved version oh Halo CE's where the Needler had good homing capabilities. Halo 2's and 3's are more similar to each other, not to mention looking more like each other, where as Halo CE's and Reach's look more similar.
You're still not getting the problem. Radar and awareness is useless because this is a long range problem.
K
kittens
Unconfirmed Member
Yup. If Frankie won't save us, MLG hopefully will.
I don't see it as a problem. It's subjective design choice that isn't inherently good or bad. It is a historical and arguably definitive part of Halo's combat, though. It's removal would be one more nail in the Halo 4 coffin to me.
MrGreencastle
Member
Gonna have to say without playing, and only going on what I've seen, I have to agree with Bestman. I think Sprint is a different beast in 4, due to the fact it's no longer an armour ability, and it will be quite a bit different with the proper maps. The two I've seen so far look great - Adrift and Haven.
The Librarian
Banned
It has to be used correctly in certain situations. I was a walking dispenser of Pink Mist in Halo 3 customs. It's much more versatile in campaign than it is in multiplayer, and in multiplayer, you have to be within a certain distance. At that range, you're a goner.
The Needler's effectiveness in Reach in comparison to Halo 3's is also diluted by the fact that you're a less maneuverable player in Reach, making it seem more effective when it's not. The Needler in Reach is sooo easy to use.
BackdoorBeauty
Member
I don't know how I feel about friendly fire, although it will make griefing by randoms less prevalent. Haven't you ever had those games where someone follows you around the entire match taking your shields down, but not actually betraying you? Halo can be a trolls paradise.
Edit: Also, if MLG doesn't adopt Vanilla Halo 4 this time around, they might as well give up on first person shooters. People want to watch what they can play themselves. Halo 3 MLG at least had a high feature parity. The further away you get from the default game, the smaller your audience.
You get yours, everyone else gets theirs, including new players and fans of other shooters. Don't see anything wrong with that.
Maybe.
Yea I'm still waiting to see how no friendly fire plays out. Not excited about that change but I'm not gonna shit on it. Knocking out of zoom being gone is major. It seriously changes the face of long range encounters. We'll see exactly how it plays though.
That's too bad, because it's objectively bad since the DMR in Reach.
Maybe is superior to not at all.
RebornYeti
Member
I still think that friendly fire is still in, but was just turned off for the press scrubs.
hmmm...
anyway, as long as Forge is as good as an XBLA dirt bike game made by 20 people or a 4 year old Ubisoft game, I expect to have a lot of fun with Halo 4. MLG settings + varied and aesthetically pleasing user created maps = sign me up.
BackdoorBeauty
Member
It will probably work out the same, you shoot the visor anyway to obscure their vision, when at all possible. It will probably obscure the scope as well.
No way no way no way. Reach Needler is best. Looks, sound, and function. Can't be too far away and have to at least BR aiming at your target. It's kill time makes it good because while it can kill fast, you've got to land enough, or it doesn't do much.
You won't see a competitive playlist until January at the earliest.
Ha, roll, I get it, because it's like Evade.Love those booster sparks, might have to roll with that AA just because of it, I have a thing for videogame sparks.
Love those booster sparks, might have to roll with that AA just because of it, I have a thing for videogame sparks.
I think they look really rad, too!
It won't be. They aren't the same anyway though so I don't understand why you keep using this terrible comparison.