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They're like the guys in high school who still had velcro shoes.
ElzarTheBam
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Don't forget the lights at the base of the heels!
Hopping on H3 in 5 mins!
You two send me a message, I'm too lazy.
You can have matchmaking and a custom browser side-by-side. Just streamline matchmaking so it won't be impacted as much by the lower population caused by the custom browser. That way people can go into matchmaking for a consistent experience while other people can join games in the custom lobby if they want a more specific type of gametype and/or map. Of course there will be terrible servers with admins who ban everyone they moment they lose, but there's also servers that are much better (for you personally) than anything matchmaking has to offer. Add an ability to blacklist and favorite servers (or the players running them) to make it easier to differentiate the two.
I would love a custom lobby.
VivaciousJazzy
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Obligatory 343th page post.
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kittens
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Tried it, couldn't stand having to scroll so much. It's easier for me to keep track of posts and where I've read to with 50ppp. :shrug
The Real Napsta
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50ppp is much better for mobileGAF too.
Hypertrooper
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That's the reason why I keep 50ppp. And do not forget if plywood is posting thousand of his awesome gifs again. It is killing my mobile screen when 100ppp.
You are just jellis!
Nah, I learned to tie my laces in elementary school.
This + it's better for mobile + when I'm catching up on threads I can just catch up 50 posts at a time = 50ppp for life.
Also Recon.
Non-inverted.
The Real Napsta
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Shake Appeal
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You probably could, especially if you allowed people to set up their Xbox as a dedicated server, but it would still be to the detriment of both. And y'all would find yourself complaining about the poor quality of hosts, mismatched teams, etc. more than you already do.
FUNKNOWN iXi
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Not to sound rude, but what does that have to do with it? You meet new people online as you would through Matchmaking, the only difference is that now you can search for the games you wanna play and match up with people who like to play what you play (without having to go online and scavenge for people).
Matchmaking + Custom Games Browser seems like the next step in multiplayer gaming IMO.
So then that's when you would just play your regular Matchmaking playlists, no?
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The thing is, the CGB would just become (Functionally) another playlist. Which would offer what either isn't in matchmaking, or already is. And by the nature of "What isn't in matchmaking", it'd be a smaller community, with a specific taste. After a couple of months, the H4 CGB would eventually settle on a gametype you'd commonly see in it.
Halo 2 PC's CGB is essentially either MLG Midship or Foundation Snipers. I'm not going to offer an opinion of those gametypes, but unless your tastes fit either of those gametypes, you're going to be making a private game anyway.
A CGB also has the downside of player expectation and player anxiety. Why would I want to play Team Snipers CGB when Team Snipers is a playlist? Because if I start doing well in the CGB version, I'll probably end up being kicked by the host. Matchmaking doesn't have that anxiety. In the opposite direction, player loss anxiety will kick in and you'll have rampant CGB quitting when a player starts losing.
Add in the issue of Megalo (if Megalo is returning) and I don't even know how you would search. Base engine? Bro Slayer, Invasion Slayer, and Invasion are all the same engine. Objectives? The Oddball object exists in Headhunter, Hockey, Haloball, and Oddball. Flags appear in CTF, Stockpile, Speedflag and Territories. The Bomb exists in Assault and Oddball. You'd spend a lot of time looking for a game, looking for a ping, then joining it, then finding out it's not exactly what was advertised, backing out, and looking again.
The community has mostly fixed the problem. MLG fixed it with Gamebattles and custom game threads and times. What would help that community more would be clan/groups that you could join and have an instant list of people that are interested in the same general gametypes that you are, instead of having to fit everyone that likes MLG onto your FL. Want to play MLG customs? Clan list -> Invite All Online. Done.
All I play in Reach is in playlists with less than a thousand players in them. I don't think it will be a problem, especially not if you streamline matchmkaing to have less than 26 (!) playlists.
Sprint on X is fine because you only have to tap it once.
FUNKNOWN iXi
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I think I read somewhere that they already fixed that or are going to? Either way, I agree :]
I acually think making the X button pickup/reload and AA right bumper would be better. That way whether you sprint or use your AA you can still use your right thumb to look around. Plus, you dont really need to look around when you pickup something and reload is just a button press not a hold.
Thoughts?
Shake Appeal
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If you put a set of filters over matchmaking, you decimate the viable population for every player who enters with a different filter, which reduces the pool of viable hosts, reduces the range of players available for viable teambuilding (in terms of fair ranking match-ups), and generally increases matchmaking times and the quality of connections for all.
If you set up custom browsers without the ability to also set up dedicated servers with detailed options for rotating maps and gametypes, etc., you get a cliquey mish-mash of poorly organized and even more badly moderated cesspits, from which outsiders will regularly be booted, and which will regularly collapse mid-game. You will spend more time looking for games than playing them -- looking for games with more than three players, looking for games with rules you like, looking for games that don't have pings in the thousands. Meanwhile, you are helping to drain the matchmaking population, making matchmaking worse for everyone. And what you will find, over time, is that the range of 'custom games' will shrink to two or three regular set-ups, which you will either enjoy or you won't. If you want to get into viable games easily and often, or just play something more than, e.g., Snipers on Refuge for-ever, you will have to be an insider of some kind.
Tha Robbertster
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Right bumper is melee, not picking up things. That's the B button. I like being able to use melee and being able to melee at the same time.
I too like to melee and be able to melee at the same time.
I knew what you meant.
I thought Recon was RB to reload?
Well anyway, this is my ideal button makeup.
LB Sprint
RB AA
X Reload
B Melee
A Jump
Y Switch Weapon
Lstick Move (push to crouch)
Rstick Look (push to zoom)
D-pad (any direction) Switch nade
Ltrigger Throw nade
Rtrigger Shoot
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kittens
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But then it wouldn't be recon.
FUNKNOWN iXi
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Actually not a bad idea at all! I've been clawing since I've had little hands on the DUKE controller so the face buttons have never been a problem for me lol - I think you may have convinced me to a better Recon config :b
I understand that completely, but it may work the opposite by attracting more players into the population because now people can play whatever they want, whenever they want. Maybe a filter such as Forge-edited: Yes/No would help alleviate some of those problems, little touches like that.
I just wouldn't totally trash the whole idea because I think the benefits could far outweigh the negatives considering it would be a Matchmaking and Custom Games Browser working alongside each other. 343 has been taking much larger risks than adding a Custom Games Browser since taking over the Halo helm (such as the whole "copying" CoD's formula stigma people throw around).
Then I will carry on the legacy. Can I have a 343 hoodie please?
The DJ must've spilled water on his laptop.
Barrow Roll
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ElzarTheBam
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One bomb on Last resort.
Aww yeah!
Aww yeah!
Hypertrooper
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I do not want you to carry on my legacy.
He's already cheating Mastrbiggy with an older woman. Tztztz.
I'd switch these two. Easier to claw on X, I think.
Fuck clawing, make every AA usable with a single press of a button. It's not that hard.
Should've told her to pound sand, you've got kids to wape. Team Objective is more important than people.
So jet pack would have a tap on/tap off action?
Jetpack shouldn't be in the game to begin with. And if it is, yes.
This could just be an option like toggle crouch is currently.
Personally I would prefer to hold the button for say hardlight shield.
Brolic Gaoler
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No argument on the first part. It just seems like a jet pack toggle would be as much work as holding it down.
Jetpack could be in the game if it boosted you slightly upwards instead of allowing you to fly.
xxjuicesxx
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Oddball Sword Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaase.
I think my preferred control layout for H4 would be the current version of Recon, with an option to switch the functions of LB and X. For abilities like Promethean Vision or Thrusters, having them on X would seem much more practical, while keeping LB for the more frequently used Sprint. For Jetpack or Hardlight Shield, though, you'd want to be able to move and aim so having those on LB makes more sense. No reason there shouldn't be some option to toggle these two buttons.
Oddball Sword Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaase.
I'm clearly missing something.
ohai
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Caja, thanks for pointing out my stupidity.
Hater.
Barrow Roll
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Thanks for not inviting. Bitch.Oddball Sword Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaase.
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