None of the playlists are competitive anyway. Better to have an endless stream of scrubs to poop on than sit there meleeing walls and browsing reddit because one idiot on the other team wont leave.
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None of the playlists are competitive anyway. Better to have an endless stream of scrubs to poop on than sit there meleeing walls and browsing reddit because one idiot on the other team wont leave.
Lol. I have played many games where I have won simply because I was the last player left on my team
4 vs 1 is an advantage to the 1
So why not take advantage?
And playlists in reach aren't competitive because they fucked the competitive part of the game that halo 2 and 3 thrived on. If it goes back to halo 2/3 then all will be good.
Zeouterlimits
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Going by the pictures that's the new dino Covie race, we've yet to see jackals.
I've never seen this in a game. Perhaps a parameter put in so you don't join a game that is close to finishing. Wish mod 2 did this. It's only flaw.
It's not an advantage on MLG, say if you're on Construct and the other team have people at top gold, Closed purple, open purple and lets say sword, you have next to no way of getting top control, you're pretty much screwed.
I think drop-in/drop-out works really well for Gears 3, sometimes I want to just get into a game and play. The teammate AI leaves a little to be desired though... I wouldn't be opposed to it in H4. I think it would be really cool if done right.
The Halo 4 Jackals kinda remind me of Chamberlain from the Dark Crystal.
http://www.entertainmentearth.com/images/AUTOIMAGES/NC60650lg.jpg
Gunnerdude
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I am proud to say... I am always that idiot who won't leave. If a team of 4 wants a win, I make a team of 4 earn that win, even by myself.
(You wouldn't believe the amount of times I've beaten a team that starts screwing around after I lose my teammates)
Ah but then it becomes a game of sneaky jet pack man!
Hypertrooper
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We need to give him a Gravity Hammer too!
are you kidding me? the guy with the shield is a jackal, not an elite.
dino/elite to the left in the back, jackal to the right and front. even without close-up, the shield is a good hint IMHO.
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
Jackals look great in Halo 4. They change every game (as seen by the comparison pic) not sure why people dislike them here.
1) 1-50 isn't coming back.
2) Halo 4 puts giant text in the middle of your screen that rewards you for running out in the open and dying.
Make of that what you will.
are you kidding me? the guy with the shield is a jackal, not an elite.
dino/elite to the left in the back, jackal to the right and front. even without close-up, the shield is a good hint IMHO.
He means that the Jackals look like Dinos
Ah but then it becomes a game of sneaky jet pack man!
I don't play Reach so I don't have that problem lol.
Gunnerdude
Neo Member
3)Add a guitar riff every time you get a kill/assist/distraction/death/unlockweapon/"rankup" and ship it!
Ah that does say Construct... fail on reading
you are right. In that case... hope for camo/overshield and hide!drop in drop out is a GOOD start but i really hope it doesn't replace quit bans. i hope quit bans become more strict even.
if you're losing to a better team, play hard til the end! don't bitch out and quit.
no gamesmanship in children these days i'm tellin ya.
mind expanding on these two? what do you mean?
if you're losing to a better team, play hard til the end! don't bitch out and quit.
no gamesmanship in children these days i'm tellin ya.
mind expanding on these two? what do you mean?
Poker Face
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i don't think quit bans should exist at all. especially when it's 1v4 because the rest of your team quit. you shouldnt have to sit for 12 minutes while the other team destroys you/
Did he do anything except the tech? But yeah. I couldn't get into that game at all, it seemed so soulless.
Helped my son finish Halo 3 this weekend (mainly, I played through Cortana, he did the rest). He's pumped for H4 and hoping that Hornets return (and available in Forge). So get on that, Frankles.
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
Based on the pic from earlier it looked like they flip-flopped designs every game though. Also seeing them in the Halo 4 demo they looked fine. Still bird-like.
the rest of your team won't quit because they know they'll get banned and they'll know it sucks.
ElzarTheBam
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Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
I think this is a better picture that reflects the design as a whole.
Yeah, faces changed a bit but they've always looked like a reptile mixed with a bird to me, so this new design just brings out a bit more reptile in the face. Still have the bird-like body and movement.
NobleGundam
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Fucked up part is... I have an Ex in Florida who looks just like her -.-'
CHANGE AVATAR NOW, THIS IS CREEPY.
Why Plywood, Why?
ncsuDuncan
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Shaky Assumptions:
- Destiny is still targeting a Fall 2013 release.
- It's going to release on the Super Xbox 720 at the same time as the 360.
- The 720 will release in Fall 2013 or earlier.
That contract was signed in April 2010. Kinect wasn't released until November 2010 and it arguably sold well enough to impact the console release timeline.
We're going to see something from Bungie in 2013, but I wouldn't be surprised if the release date and/or targeted consoles have shifted in the past two years.
(Your assumptions aren't bad, the contract certainly gives us a better idea of what they're shooting for. We just can't take them as fact. Personally I agree that a VGA reveal seems appropriate.)
Zeouterlimits
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It's all part of their new Grunt/Elite dinosaur/locust art changes.
To me the jackals looked way more bird like in the previous games, much more reptilian now (like what they're done to the other races).
They used to look like ugly humanoid birds, now like grotesque humanoid dinosaurs (going by that picture).
I do not want.
To me the jackals looked way more bird like in the previous games, much more reptilian now (like what they're done to the other races).
They used to look like ugly humanoid birds, now like grotesque humanoid dinosaurs (going by that picture).
I do not want.
NobleGundam
Banned
Yup. I'm noticing all the mistakes already </3
Do you have a recommended better stream app?
Gabotron ES
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Trying to catch up with the thread is impossible man!
Any news? direct feeds? is middle text out or atleast toggleable?
Any news? direct feeds? is middle text out or atleast toggleable?
ncsuDuncan
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Has 343/MS ever actually called it "Drop-in, Drop-out" anywhere?
I could be wrong, but I believe it has always been referred to as "Join In-Progress."
Big difference right there.
I could be wrong, but I believe it has always been referred to as "Join In-Progress."
Big difference right there.
Gunnerdude
Neo Member
"Join In-Progress"/"Dashboard Out"
HigherLevel
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I don't get the "jackals don't look birdlike now" complaints. They didn't look birdlike in Halo CE or 2, only in 3 and Reach. So I don't get the big deal with that at all.
'Big difference' is a wild overstatement.
Not really. "Join-in progress' they would probably still enforce quit bans and such, while if they call it 'drop-in/drop-out" it'll probably be more COD-style and not have any penalty.
Join in progress is amazing, I'm pretty much with Kyle on this one; would rather have a random stream of scrubs than running around meleeing walls and browsing the internet on my phone waiting for a 1v8 to finish. If you want a competitive game, well hopefully there is a playlist for that for one(that doesn't have JIP, it shouldn't need it), or do customs.
Also do we really need to have the jackal discussion again? It still looks like a lizard bird.
Also do we really need to have the jackal discussion again? It still looks like a lizard bird.
StalkerUKCG
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Ill be happy if it is in. Obviously I don't think its going to work in gametypes like MLG or Ranked Playlists but for everything social I'm more than happy about its inclusion.
ElzarTheBam
Member
Yes, but in practice, it could end up essentially the same, no?
Will people care about quit bans?
Join in progress by it's very nature makes quitting more acceptable than it currently is, even if there's still a quitting ban (which I don't think there will be). It's not the same on the surface, but the connotations of openly allowing players to join games in progress implies an allowance to quit in progress, too.
Exactly.
That's a good question. I doubt most people that quit in Reach care a bout a 10 min. ban after 7 or 8 quits. Maybe if they raised the penalty or did something else to encourage completion of a match.
Which brings us back to something I mentioned previously, use the Valve/DotA thing where quitters are sent to Quitter Purgatory to play against each other until they fight their way out, Sandman Slim style.
That's another reason why I think there should be ranked playlists with visible ranks. It makes it that much more important to stay in ranked games if something like a visible rank is at stake.
I play ranked playlists for either the competitive gametype or the rank. I play social playlists when I don't feel like trying to win. That was the distinction made in Halo 3 and I think that was one of the things H3 did rate. Those matchmaking hoppers were really effective.
The thing about visual ranks is that it ties everything in. If you want to play a ranked playlist, but don't actually care about the rank, then you'll be in the lower ranks with similar minded players. It's nothing against you as a player personally, it just sorts you out. Higher ranked players have played for that rank and care about winning, so they'll be matched up together.
Drop in drop out (we should call this DIDO, there will be no white flag above my door) will be AMAZING for social playlists.
However, there needs to be a reason why people won't quit out of ranked games as well, and that's where a visual rank plays a key role.
ncsuDuncan
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It's going to be so awesome when kids join my game and go -10 before quitting.
I still think if you quit a game you should be locked out of team-based playlists until the game you quit is over.
I still think if you quit a game you should be locked out of team-based playlists until the game you quit is over.
I think this is a better picture that reflects the design as a whole.
now i see the "problem". less birdlike design indeed.
but it still looks better than the ninja-spartans.
StalkerUKCG
Banned
This is basically how it "should" work.
Join in progress Gameplay for all playlist's without a ridged ranking structure. (with the exception of MLG)
3 Quits in a row in any Playlist and you face an hour long matchmaking ban. 3 Quits in a row after that hour (within a 72 hour period) and you suffer a 24 hour ban.
Along side this is a "Quit Quota" which tracks player quits. 10 Quits over a 2 day period and its a day long quit ban.
Quitting servers no purpose and those who do it should be punished. A stricter punishment would deter people from quitting and JiP would mak sure that games remain full and playable so people have less reason to quit.
Those who quit because of the predicted outcome of a game should be punished and those who quit with a valid reason will likely not quit again within the hour because if the quit because they grew tired of the game or had obligations those obligations would be keeping them busy.
Alongside this players players who do idle for extended periods should be kicked.
ElzarTheBam
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This would be hilarious, because, I imagine they would never finish a full game together.
This
This is an excellent idea.
In regards to your first point, I always saw people quitting after being donged on as a reward for the person, and team, doing the donging. Not now when Kyle quits out and gets replaced by Tashi.
StalkerUKCG
Banned
Vote to kick would be abused a kick idle'ers system could work but then i can see people rubber banding.
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