yes!! so clutch
Halo |OT8| A Salt on the Control Room
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yes!! so clutch
nillapuddin
Member
Tactical Package: 10
- None
- Mobility: Unlimited Sprint
- Shielding: Shield Recharge Rate buff
- Resupply: Pick up grenades from fallen Spartans
- AA Efficiency: AA Recharge Rate buff
- Grenadier: Increases grenade carrying capacity
- Firepower: Carry 2 primary weapons
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- Fast Track: Increased XP bonus*
- Requisition: Ability to re-roll an Ordnance drop*
- Wheelman: Lessened EMP effect, Vehicle Health buff*
- None
- Ammo: Hold more Ammo
- Dexterity: Faster reloads and weapon swaps
- Sensor: Increased Motion Tracker Range
- Awareness: Use radar while scoped
- Explosives: Increases blast radius, decreases damage received
- Ordnance Priority: More frequent ordnance drops
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- Stability: Lessened knock out of scope*
- Gunner: Reduce Turret cool down, move faster when carrying Turret*
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- .
- Drop Recon: Heads up on Ordnance and On-map weapon drops*
- Nemesis: Possibly reveals opponent who last killed you*
- Stealth: Decreased visibilty vs PromVision, Faster Assassinations, dampened
footsteps*
* Unlocked via Specializations
Bold = new
Underlined = Not shown in vid, but confirmed
Vire
Member
Genesis Knight
Member
Flipping sick, Duncan. Can't wait.
"YOU CAN NOT DROP THE FLAG."
Easily the worst news ever. Worse than AAs returning. This is a joke. Like I don't even want to play the game anymore. You can throw the goodamn Oddball now but not the flag? Really? And flag carrier being able to use a pistol while moving around with it?
Seriously, 343 could announce tommorrow that they're cutting all the maps from the game and just have Forge World creations in matchmaking and you would find a way to spin it into good news.
Easily the worst news ever. Worse than AAs returning. This is a joke. Like I don't even want to play the game anymore. You can throw the goodamn Oddball now but not the flag? Really? And flag carrier being able to use a pistol while moving around with it?
Seriously, 343 could announce tommorrow that they're cutting all the maps from the game and just have Forge World creations in matchmaking and you would find a way to spin it into good news.
Garrett 2U
Member
Barf at those perks.
Hydranockz
Member
Seriously, 343 could announce tommorrow that they're cutting all the maps from the game and just have Forge World creations in matchmaking and you would find a way to spin it into good news.
You make it sound like enjoying things is bad :lol
Then don't play Infinity Slayer/Objective.
Portugeezer
Member
I thought he made a good point, just seems more people are willing to spin anything new into shit news.
nillapuddin
Member
Atleast the radar while scoped and descope mod are in the same category
FUNKNOWN iXi
Member
BARROW LAPTOP IMMEDIATELY.
Get. It. Done.
'Twas waiting for this post
<3
I guess +/- 300 players perplaylist isn't that bad.
NullPointer
Member
That's one question that I keep coming back to, and the one question we've never heard any answers for.
According to whomever is running the HaloGAF twitter at the moment. No personal Ordnance and no instant respawn. No instant respawn was an obvious one and I guess personal ordnance removal makes sense too. So it's not slayer unlimited :lol
Sounds good to me.
:lol awesome heckfu pic
Sounds good to me.
:lol awesome heckfu pic
User 73706
Banned
Shake Appeal
Member
Alter grenade performance.
Alter grenade performance.
Alter grenade performance.
Alter grenade performance.
Alter grenade performance.
Alter grenade performance.
Alter grenade performance.
Poker Face
Member
Don't worry man, it totally plays like Halo.
Vire
Member
This feels like a bad dream.
LTTP but...I think disabling flag dropping is an okay idea.
It's an objective game so you need to protect the flag carrier. There's no need to when he can fight just as well as anyone else on the team by dropping the flag. While the objective is moving, the other team should enter a fight with some advantage to have a chance at stopping the capture.
It's an objective game so you need to protect the flag carrier. There's no need to when he can fight just as well as anyone else on the team by dropping the flag. While the objective is moving, the other team should enter a fight with some advantage to have a chance at stopping the capture.
K
kittens
Unconfirmed Member
But we have no idea what that even means, as nillapuddin pointed out.
Shake Appeal
Member
Yeah, if it made them into rubber bouncy balls, I could get behind that.
Nobody is spinning anything. They're offering alternatives.
You're the one quantifying who would like to play "classic" Halo in this situation, and if it's that absurdly low of a number, then thank god 343 went the direction they did. We can put in Halo 3 and get that kind of draw any time.
I know it's fun to be stuck in hyperbole mode, though. Such a rush. Everything seems like either the worst or best thing ever.
You're the one quantifying who would like to play "classic" Halo in this situation, and if it's that absurdly low of a number, then thank god 343 went the direction they did. We can put in Halo 3 and get that kind of draw any time.
I know it's fun to be stuck in hyperbole mode, though. Such a rush. Everything seems like either the worst or best thing ever.
I'd take a perk that nerfed my own nades, just to spread the goodwill coming off of Reach. :3
If Halo 4 brings back parallel universe playlists... then that isn't so hyperbolic (6 months later, at least). Can't realistically expect everyone to like this particular change, as is clear.
If Halo 4 brings back parallel universe playlists... then that isn't so hyperbolic (6 months later, at least). Can't realistically expect everyone to like this particular change, as is clear.
ncsuDuncan
Member
recorded our CTF match in Exile. Had lavalier mics in my headset to record audio. 20 minutes, will upload as soon as I can borrow a laptop.
bsangel came over and teased me when I spent the first 5 minutes just going through the loadout options.
bsangel came over and teased me when I spent the first 5 minutes just going through the loadout options.
Hydranockz
Member
The other packages have been tweaks.
BETTER ASSUME THIS ONE IS OP AS FUCK!
Am I doing it right?
nillapuddin
Member
unfortunately I just made it out, I didnt feel like straining my eyes that hard at first, but good fucking lord did it start a shit storm
Explosives: Explosives alters grenade performance, increasing blast radius and decreasing grenade damage received.
edit:
eerie correlation with 300th post and member status
That's Ken's point. He feels okay with the defending team getting an inherent advantage on the flag carrying team.
Motherfucker.
That's the point?
It could all be totally fine, there are just a bunch of weird tradeoffs being made that people are naturally apprehensive toward. You give the flag carrier a (pretty weak) weapon, but he can't switch away from it. You make the flag carrier faster, but then you broadcast his location to everyone in the match, making him an immediate target. I mean, you always needed to protect the flag carrier, whether it was through direct intervention and killing his attackers as he's being attacked, causing a distraction on the other side of the map so he can sneak away from it, or by spawn trapping people so that their pursuit options were limited. The carrier was always gonna have a few shots on him by the time he dropped the flag and turned around, making him an inherently weaker combatant because of his importance. Teamwork was always required. Now, with that waypoint that you can't escape by dropping the flag, some of those options are now limited.
Take a CTF game of Sanctuary or Asylum. Enemy grabs the flag, they take it one of four or five routes. The defenders, who have been outplayed and have lost their flag, needs to intuit which of the routes is the most likely for him to take immediately as they spawn and move to cut him off or hit him in the back. Now, it tells you exactly which route he's taking. There's no guesswork, and less map knowledge required. You're still requiring teamwork, but that definition is a little more strict.
I have no idea if it'll be great or terrible at this point, but without playing it? I'm not a huge fan, because of the combination of the waypoint and glue on the flag pole.
"YOU CAN NOT DROP THE FLAG."
And on top of that, a huge Waypoint blinking "KILL" showing you the location of the enemy flag carrier no matter where you are on the map or direction you are looking. That's a change I'm as worried about.
Throwing oddballs and not dropping flags... it's Halo 4.
thezerofire
Banned
who's got that David Ellis laying down pic saved? I need it.
User 73706
Banned
Gonna be honest, I'd be cool with a perk that didn't modify grenade damage, but let you chuck them across the map Halo CE-style-
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Vire
Member
This can't be real?
Genesis Knight
Member
I've played maybe 2 games of CTF in Reach. I guess I don't really care about the flag change, but I definitely hope this is a like a glitch in the build or something. Not being able to switch totally sucks for those who do play CTF.
The Infinite Ammo Flag Pistol is just fucking strange.
The Infinite Ammo Flag Pistol is just fucking strange.
nillapuddin
Member
Im watching the same video you guys are
thezerofire
Banned
non rendered? or is that the only one?
Brolic Gaoler
formerly Alienshogun
It's CTF not infinity slayer.
Wait, wat?
It makes you do more damage and TAKE less damage with grenades?
That's some fucked up shit.
It should be do more and take MORE grenade damage.
You know this is the reaction that 343i was prepping for and is going to clarify why they did it tomorrow. I think it adds a new dimension to the game because you have to know now as a team, when someone has the flag, it's theirs to the death. Single man flag rushes may be a thing of the past, at least in Infinity Objective.
I personally like the change because it forces teams to work together more. Having the flag carrier highlighted for the other team will force the attacking team to stick closer and coordinate where as in other games, the flag carrier could lone wolf it out the side while the team is all over the map.
I personally like the change because it forces teams to work together more. Having the flag carrier highlighted for the other team will force the attacking team to stick closer and coordinate where as in other games, the flag carrier could lone wolf it out the side while the team is all over the map.
Bolded I didn't know of since I just woke up to the MP trailer and then 2 pages of "NO FLAG DROPPING AHHHH."
Anyways, I think flag dropping being disabled is fine to stop stuff like this:
from happening because if you're team isn't there to help you then you've kind of failed the team part of Team Objective. You're already moving the objective forwards so you really shouldn't be able to also contribute heavily to team fights.
Past games if you dropped your flag you got both your weapons back and full mobility. In BR/DMR start game, you probably got back one of those and now you have a fighting chance against your attacker, not to mention a one-hit kill melee weapon in some settings.
