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Halo |OT8| A Salt on the Control Room
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That sounds fine, assuming it "decreasing grenade damage received" refers to the fact that grenades with larger range do less damage.
Otherwise it sounds kind of bad but not game breaking.
If that means only one or two players will have Reach nukes I consider that a very significant improvement.
This would be wonderful.
In addition would this mean the player only has the one/two nades they start with?
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kittens
Unconfirmed Member
Well, good thing grenades can't be picked up off bodies without the other perk, right...? I mean, seriously, that perk sounds shitty, but I don't see grenade spam being as bad as it was in 3 and Reach.
YourExWife
Member
Im_So_Pringles
Member
Wow. The multiplayer for this game just keeps getting shittier and shittier. I'm so glad I'm basically just getting it for the single-player now :/
FUNKNOWN iXi
Member
Just wondering what the general consensus is with these categories because there seems to be a lot of mixing/matching.. My list:
- Faster flag movement: Good - How they made you run like a damn slug in Halo 3/Reach was beyond me.. I don't see how anyone can complain about this seeing as how the gunplay is obviously wayyy better this time around.
- Pistol w/ flag: Good - Why not? The Pistol seems like something that'll just be a nuisance for people trying to kill you.. Doesn't seem like it'll change anything except giving the flag holder a little more hope/power.
- Cannot drop the flag: Bad - Forcing that is bad for too many obvious reasons.
- Waypoint on flag holder: Bad - Unless the flag guy runs insanely fast (which is not the case), there should not be a constant Waypoint over their head.
nillapuddin
Member
Honestly I think you have it here
INCREASE RADIUS
AND
DECREASE DAMAGE
not neccesarily, my nades do more, your nades do less.
You might have just saved HaloGAF
edit: so help me god if yall ignore the Prophet of Blamite
Pretty sure it means that you take less grenade damage while giving out more. It doesn't really say 'grenades do less damage' or 'at the expense of less damage'. But hey I could be wrong.
User 73706
Banned
Keep in mind the unlimited ammo pistol means the flag carrier can potentially fight forever (or alone) if absolutely necessary, though. We're gonna see some fails/montage clips of people getting overkill exterminations by mopping up the entire enemy team while holding the flag, I'm sure.
EDIT:
Just realized, the only situation where Explosives could be truly truly gamebreaking would be if grenades were available everywhere... and since you can't use the "pick grenades up off dead bodies" perk alongside it, that probably helps balance it out.
It may do the same "base damage," just over a wider area. For example, let's say a grenade is hitting 100 points at any given time, with a total of 500 damage. It would still do a total 500 damage to vehicles/scenery/etc, just spread out over 150 points. So they'd probably feel weaker, really.
neoism
Member
lol same as reach for me I my have like 20 caps in 1k+ obj games... o'well just other game where i shoot people in objective...
YourExWife
Member
Poker Face
Member
Can this be the new template for Team Slurp posts?
No?
Also not sure how I feel about designing a game around "super satisfying montage situations."
This is a joke right?
ViewtifulJC
Banned
I'm gonna take a Hydranockz, glass half full approach here and assume that's what they mean(even if it should be damage dealt, in that case).
Pretty much. And even then, I don't think any one of those single elements is a wholly bad thing in the absence of all the others. It's kind of a cumulative effect of the negatives that people are backlashing against -- the pistol being weak and forced on the player with no ability to switch, the waypoint being impossible to remove, the carrier becoming a target and less effective at the same time. I'm really hoping that pistol being there means that the flag is no longer a one-hit kill. Flag carriers being fast again is something I was hoping they'd do in lieu of giving them weapons, but close enough, I guess.
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kittens
Unconfirmed Member
Yeah, that's true for me. I'm looking forward to clarification from 343.
Credits get refunded at the end of the game if you win.
Poker Face
Member
innovation
When are you at a 1 on 1 advantage when you're running the flag?
It's not designing the game around those situations. I was clarifying what I thought to be what Bobs was talking about. It's satisfying for him to drop flag, kill someone and then capture the flag because he's at a disadvantage.
CoD4 was the CoD4 for fps. Because it was CoD4, and an fps.
seriously, i have zero clue what you mean
Anyway all this news has to be some kind of bad joke. Only good thing i've seen today is the rocks/cliffs on the new map look amazing. So glad that Reach's "gritty" style is dead.
Devolution
Member
Wait wait.
So you can't drop a flag but you can use a pistol. However everyone can fucking track you down based on an arrow above your head?
Yeah count me as someone who already doesn't like the sound of this.
So you can't drop a flag but you can use a pistol. However everyone can fucking track you down based on an arrow above your head?
Yeah count me as someone who already doesn't like the sound of this.
Vire
Member
Can this be the new template for Team Slurp posts?
Bravo, so very clever of you. I'm not a 343i or Microsoft fanboy by any means. I don't play Call of Duty because I hate the imbalanced shit they shovel out every year.
I like that Halo is changing, it needs to in my opinion. It's my opinion so back off
I was just joking lol. Everyone's entitled to an opinion.
Halo 3 all day errday
YourExWife
Member
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kittens
Unconfirmed Member
343 needs to release something flashy and informative like the Reach Beta Trailer.
CAN'T SNEAK WITH FLAG
FORCED TO USE A PISTOL
CAN'T DROP FLAG
BUT HEY YOU CAN MOVE FASTER
That'll really sell the new "features".
Still not sure if joking.
It's changing alright. Into Call of Duty.
I am very disappointed in this recent news. Grenade damage perk and faster reload perks are really pushing it 343. I can accept a few shitty ideas being in my Halo but you're really piling it on now.. I am hoping for the best but I think I really might just buy this game for campaign and shelve it after unless there is a good classic or MLG playlist.
I hope this is an overreaction or misjudgment on my part and that the game is actually good. But everything I've heard today has really been pretty negative.
Flip off 343 and quit playing it, and occasionally put Halo 3 back in.
neoism
Member
StalkerUKCG
Banned
Alot of this can already be configured in the Halo 3/Reach custom options.
Flag Carrier Waypoints for example
I assume that Pistol+Flag is the new default but id imagine that the old "Only Flag" option is still possible as is the ability to drop the flag or not.
What people are getting so dramatic over is very likely a custom CTF variant of some kind made to show CTF to the public and the new features that are possible.
But you should ignore this post and start raging like the rest of this thread and then make wild angry comments and link to semi-related youtube videos or gif's that show your personal disdain for these features in either a musical or animated format.
For sure. I watched that trailer over and over. It was somewhat informative and talked about the game itself and showed clips from it. Most of 343's vids have been talk about the studio and more internal type stuff. Need more detailed info vids about the game.
nillapuddin
Member
Mobility is a known entity friend, that was one of the first and (most obvious) mods
Franklinator
Member
Hey guys, look at it this way: after Reach's BTB, the only way to go from here is up! Maybe we won't go up very high, but at least we'll go up!
rip ctf
Oh how I wish more people would see this...
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