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Halo |OT8| A Salt on the Control Room
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I heard this before Halo Reach came to MLG, at the end they striped the game of every AA including sprint, Halo 4 will have the same fate (stuff like Camo, Riot shield, PV, ETC are detrimental for competitive play)
Demoncarnotaur
Member
Weapon skins seem to be a perfect match for Halo, I really like the idea of em. Im just surprised we are getting so few, mostly only one per gun, at least according to the PAX build which I'm gonna assume was final. Its too bad they didn't explore more options with them though, a classic skin for the BR would have been great, as well as other more canon based skins.
So, is anyone making a Murder Miners OT?
So, is anyone making a Murder Miners OT?
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October 1st, bro.
Unless you live in the UK, then yah, you are totally right.
MrGreencastle
Member
I would expect there to be many more weapon/armour skins available either upon or post-release as micro-DLC.
Hypertrooper
Member
You cannot easily compare Halo: Reach with Halo 4. Halo 4 has a core gameplay which feels like Halo. Unlike Reach. I am not expecting the same fate for Halo 4.
nillapuddin
Member
Im very disappointed you cant alter the color of the weapon skins,
like make it keep your secondary color or something
Halo "5"
like make it keep your secondary color or something
Halo "5"
Hydranockz
Member
If that's what needs to happen, then I'll let it be. However, like I said, I would rather they tried to add things first, rather than scrap them from the start only to strip content away.
Who knows, that'd be cool. They will probably sell it.
Zeouterlimits
Member
Hydranockz, are you forgetting the years of beta Starcraft 2 had to balance that complexity ? Never mind all the post release patches (much more than a console game).
Heart of the Swarm is still in beta and was meant to be out over a year ago but they continue to work on the balance.
Heart of the Swarm is still in beta and was meant to be out over a year ago but they continue to work on the balance.
In all honesty, I wouldn't mind if Halo 4 was post-poned another 2 years if it meant that they'd give the competitive community a good reason to keep playing Halo.
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
Frank, where is our US GameFuel? That coming? 
You clearly know little about MLG, they probably will start with some, but by the 3rd event, they will strip it down. they did it for Halo 3 with the equipment, they did it with Reach, most of the AAs and perks only help to slow down kill times and the game in general, like you said Halo 4 CORE feels like Halo,as even CoD is striped of most of the perks in MLG, so expect to MLG halo 4 to be something more similar to the "classic halo" 343 have said is coming for Halo 4.
They will try most of them out, and even 2 or 3 of those will eventually make the cut.
Zeouterlimits
Member
I.. appreciate where you're coming from. Admirable but unrealistic. I'm more for at least 3 year gaps to avoid burn outs and constant messaging. Spread out the goodness.
But anyway - at this point I'm just looking forward to the game. Come on 343, I want to believe.
I don't know how such logic can prevail after Reach, though. That game proved that just adding mechanics doesn't make the game better. It's about how the mechanics slot into the existing base and whether it alters the core feedback of fun that gamer's specifically play Halo for, in a negative way.
Responding to an earlier point (sorry i'm watching NFL), I know I'd have access to perks and ordnance just like my opponents, but beating a player through a strategic choice isnt what I play Halo for, and shouldn't be a significant determining factor in combat encounters, in my opinion.
Just like having to think about timing gun shots in Reach wasn't what I (or most fans) wanted from Halo.
Murder Miners is pretty fun. I spotted some other HaloGaf members- Henery and u4ix.
But some things that bother me are the killfeed and the INSANE amounts of framerate drop.
Good game though! Hopefully destroyable environments will become an option. Maybe set weapons. or ordnance drops
But some things that bother me are the killfeed and the INSANE amounts of framerate drop.
Good game though! Hopefully destroyable environments will become an option. Maybe set weapons. or ordnance drops
HiredN00bs
Member
Saying "Incubus/Breaking Benjamin songs" implies they are similar in some way. They are not. Incubus brilliantly executes 4 separate movements in an original suite composed for the game which pays homage to the progressive roots in Halo's music. Breaking Benjamin gets a one-hit wonder shoe-horned because a mildly catchy riff fit the first Brute fight.
I love how he talked about how prevalent Host Advantage was in Murder Miners as if this wasn't apparent in literally every P2P game on the Xbox without dedicated servers. Would be more tempting to buy if it didn't look like the hit registration was guesswork (might just be his stream).
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October 1st, bro.
Unless you live in the UK, then yah, you are totally right.
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Halo 4 branded bottles already out and about if you can find it, the Moutain Dew Energy in the UK already has a fair bit more caffeine in it compared to the US mountain Dew.
The Halo 4 branded Raspberry "GAME FUEL" is due out in the next few weeks, although I don't know if the Game fuel version of Moutain Dew energy has an even greater caffeine content.
http://marketplace.xbox.com/en-US/Product/Murder-Miners/66acd000-77fe-1000-9115-d80258550bdb
Should I make the OT? do I have to contact a mod?
GrimBrother One
Member
"Buttspace"
Go to games > Indie Games > Newest releases
It'll be one of the first ones.
Although, I believe some countries cant even play Indie Games. Lets hope you arent one of those countries.
Aggrotek
Member
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Halo 4 branded bottles already out and about if you can find it, the Moutain Dew Energy in the UK already has a fair bit more caffeine in it compared to the US mountain Dew.
The Halo 4 branded Raspberry "GAME FUEL" is due out in the next few weeks, although I don't know if the Game fuel version of Moutain Dew energy has an even greater caffeine content.
Oh god it's Raspberry. FUCKKKKK YESSSSS.
You should be good to go
Yes because I need to know how to find maps and such.
The Henery
Member
Twas indeed a fun game. The framerate becomes noticeably crazy when there's more than eight or so players. Can't complain though considering what the game is.
Had a really good 1v1 against a guy where there was only 20 or so ping.
A big area where it could be improved is the aiming. Feels like slow turn, but it's the aim acceleration.
Overall really fun little indie game and worth the loose change!
On the home dash scroll to games and then hit browse games:
and then hit RB over to Indie
then newest releases.
nillapuddin
Member
nowise, y u no landscape pictures?
im just joking btw
Reagan's BR
Banned
Look at this junior; pictures and everything. That's awesome.
BuggyDClown
Member
Game looks awesome, but non destructible environments? Really that seems like the whole reason to do that type of game.
User 73706
Banned
That was some pretty sweet Warthog action in BTB last night, by the way. Even if it did ruin our KDs.
Aggrotek
Member
That was some pretty sweet Warthog action in BTB last night, by the way. Even if it did ruin our KDs.
WM! Halo 3?
You can set it so you either can or can't destory stuff.
Then it's not available in your region. Just create a US account and buy it with that. That way it'll be available for all the accounts on your 360. That's how I did it.
Aggrotek
Member
Shake Appeal
Member
Exactly.
That is the fundamental shift from earlier Halo games to this one, and it's a shift that Call of Duty hammered out and made fantastically profitable in the console space. It's a shift that, by design, says that single matches, single battles, and single results -- whether undertaken as a team or an individual -- are largely irrelevant. They are sideshows staged in service of the metagame, in which you level up and show people you have levelled up. You grind XP and change your armour so everyone can see you have ground a lot of XP, and you build a variety of 'classes' that give you a semblance of control and responsiveness ("It's not that I am inferior; I just didn't pick the right loadout for that situation; back to the start menu!"). Wins and losses matter less. How your team did, whether they got beaten, matters less. All the trappings of competitive play, the 4v4 (or 5v5) set-ups, matter less. They are stage dressing for a fundamentally solo performance in which you measure your current performance only against your own previous performances, and the game doesn't punish you for falling short. The metric for all of this is XP, and conveniently it's a metric that can never run negative, never hurt your feelings.
And as I've said before, there's nothing inherently wrong with it; in fact it's more successful precisely because everyone can be a winner, always. But until now I've always been glad that there is an alternative to it among console FPS.
The alternative was Halo. Now it is not an alternative. Which is depressing. I'll get over it, but I feel like the game is going somewhere that isn't for me. Which is something I didn't feel even in my deepest moments of disappointment with Reach.
Thanks
Brilliant post.
Shake Appeal
Member
God, can you imagine if 343 had taken a leaf out of Blizzard's playbook and we'd been given a steady stream of direct-feed footage of Halo pros playing the Halo 4 and showing off new weapons, modes, and maps in beta over the last year? When developers realize that their fanbase are stakeholders in the multiplayer experience, that they are constituents and not just customers, everything gets better.
Meanwhile Snuggler visits the drunk thread on a daily basis. How rich!
Anybody up for some Halo Reach?
It's understandable though, even from a far Shake Appeal's analysis is spot on.
No.
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