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Halo: Reach Beta Thread

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chapel

Banned
Customs were fun guys. Glad to be there. What about next sat? I know some of you will be playing the beta right?

My goal would be to hit 45, maybe even 50. I am at 41 now, bah it can be hard sometimes.
 
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bobs...onGaf

Member
Diablohead said:
Noscopes are already OP and you want it even easier? :lol
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I was thinking more with the DMR or Needle Rifle, but honestly I dont think rolling would make no scopes easier to perform. Either way a no scope after a roll will be super awesome. :D
 
S

Slightly Live

Dirty tag dodger
chapel said:
My goal would be to hit 45, maybe even 50. I am at 41 now, bah it can be hard sometimes.
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I'd love to get above 35, I've been held back my randoms for too long and I can't stand Lone Wolves (where I got my highest rank) any more.

Would love to try to push my Halo 3 rank up before Reach, or even the beta, hits.
 
D

Diablohead

Member
bobs99 ... said:
I was thinking more with the DMR or Needle Rifle, but honestly I dont think rolling would make no scopes easier to perform. Either way a no scope after a roll will be super awesome. :D
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I can't wait to see some replays from awesome reach action when the beta is active, mmm.

To celebrate halo reach beta coming up I decided to fish through my large box of old and unused gaming gear to find my original xbox copy of halo 1, I lost the box and manual long ago but I still have the dvd, I am quite amazed I still have it personally as I use to trade so much stuff in years ago towards new games.

Even after playing a fair bit of Halo 2 pc lately I still feel the original looks better on the xbox, it doesn't feel so flat with the lighting.
 
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Gui_PT

Member
Dax01 said:
I'm also wondering how the Beta is going to handle quitters. It's the last great mystery.
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Yeah, we've had no information about this at all

Bungie has been making awesome changes, I really hope the deal with quitters the way they're dealing with everything else
 
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GhaleonEB

Member
Dani said:
I was trying to find this a few months back, thanks for digging it up.
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I found it linked in my old Halo 3 Beta thread. I knew that thing would come in handy some day.

From the Valhalla write up:

Grab a vehicle or launch from Forerunner gravity chutes at either opposing tower.
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"Forerunner gravity chute"? Man cannon is way better. :lol
 
M

Magni

Member
GhaleonEB said:
Thanks for the customs tonight, guys.

Next week or a few days after I think it will be hard to go back to Halo 3. I remember after the Halo 3 Beta, I had a really hard time going back to Halo 2.
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You splattered me a couple times last night, but I remember well this splatter because on my end of the pond, it wasn't a splatter at all :lol

sorcw1.jpg
 
B

Brainboy

Member
Shake Appeal said:
This is the thing I'm most excited about, though I likely won't understand it.
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I'm very interested in it, too. I think I might even try to convert some logged Halo 3 games into an Arena ranking. Even if the B.net stats don't give me all the information I need, it might give us an insight into the formula.
 
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quilter46761

Member
Oozer3993 said:
So I've been toying with an Arena rating formula for CTF for a little while and today finally got around to coding something up to test it out. This is what I came up with:

Code: 
slayerd = ((kills - flagKills) + assists + 1.3 * flagKills)/(.5 * (deaths + 2 * betrayals) + .1);
slayer = (int) (Math.toDegrees(Math.atan(slayerd)) * 7);
		
// Second, it calculates the flag portion, which maxes out at 1370.
		
flagd = (Math.abs((flagCaps - betrayals) + (0.7 * flagSteals) + (0.3 * flagCarrierKills) + (0.5 * flagTouches)))/((0.3 * betrayals) + .01);
flag = (int) (Math.toDegrees(Math.atan(flagd)) * 15.2222);
		
// Adjust for instances where the players team won, but the player focused more on slaying.
// The player would have still helped his team win, so his rating is given a slight bump,
// proportional to the margin of victory.
		
		
if (teamCaps > opCaps && flag < 1100)
{
	slayer = slayer + ((teamCaps - opCaps) * 70);
}
		
// Finally, add them up.
		
rating = (int) (slayer + flag);

Some insight into just what-in-the-Sam-hell I was thinking:

  • Flag caps need to have a heavy weighting, but there needs to be a penalty should some one try to exploit that and betray their team mate to score the flag.
  • Just going around slaying won't directly help your team capture a flag, but having members of the other team dead a lot does help. So if a player's team wins, but he didn't directly contribute to the flag captures or the defense of the flag, but he did a good job killing the other team, he'll be given a boost to reflect this.
  • "Math.atan" is the arctan AKA the inverse tangent and its addition is, as you may have guessed, a nod to the podcast. It intrigued me and I started thinking about why the Arena rating would include it. My educated guess was that it can be used as a kind of ceiling function which would give the rating a hard maximum. It reaches a maximum of 90 (if using degrees) or pi/2 if using radians (I used degrees cause the number's bigger lol). Inside the arctan I used a fraction with good stuff on top and bad stuff on the bottom so that the arctan would be big when the good stuff outweighed the bad stuff.
  • The maximum of the formula is 2000, which, I think, is the max of the normal Arena rating.
  • This was coded up in Java, just in case you were wondering.

P.S. Sorry about bailing on customs tonight. I got disconnected from the game and then my sister took over the room.
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The one weakness I can see is in flag touches - even though juggling may not work, it still seems possible to continuously pick up and drop the flag to max out rating.

I guess maybe a solution would be to make it a max of one touch per person per cap, which would probably then make it a game of passing the flag around to everyone on the team before capping.

Actually I suppose that wouldn't be the worst thing ever - perhaps make it so that actually capping isn't worth very much, but having many teammates touch the flag would make each touch more valuable for everyone?
 
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Slightly Live

Dirty tag dodger
One thing I noticed from ODST and also noticed when trying to modify my Live profile.

In ODST, when the Service Tag increased from three characters to four (similar to Reach), I tried entering my name, DANI, but it refused to accept it. Same thing happened when I try to enter it on my profile - I usually have to resort to spacing letters or or whatever to get it in. Is there any particular reason for this?

Is my name universally banned, is there anti-Dani stance on Live? :lol

Most likely I think my name may contain a slang term or word, at least partially, which is inappropriate or offensive in a non-English language.

In ODST I reverted to using SLTY - but more often than not that looks worse. I'd rather not be known as Slutty over the next few years during matches. :lol
 
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BladedExpert

Member
Dani said:
One thing I noticed from ODST and also noticed when trying to modify my Live profile.

In ODST, when the Service Tag increased from three characters to four (similar to Reach), I tried entering my name, DANI, but it refused to accept it. Same thing happened when I try to enter it on my profile - I usually have to resort to spacing letters or or whatever to get it in. Is there any particular reason for this?

Is my name universally banned, is there anti-Dani stance on Live? :lol

Most likely I think my name may contain a slang term or word, at least partially, which is inappropriate or offensive in a non-English language.

In ODST I reverted to using SLTY - but more often than not that looks worse. I'd rather not be known as Slutty over the next few years during matches. :lol
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You could use LIVE. No idea why Dani is blacklisted though :lol
 
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bobs...onGaf

Member
Dani said:
One thing I noticed from ODST and also noticed when trying to modify my Live profile.

In ODST, when the Service Tag increased from three characters to four (similar to Reach), I tried entering my name, DANI, but it refused to accept it. Same thing happened when I try to enter it on my profile - I usually have to resort to spacing letters or or whatever to get it in. Is there any particular reason for this?

Is my name universally banned, is there anti-Dani stance on Live? :lol

Most likely I think my name may contain a slang term or word, at least partially, which is inappropriate or offensive in a non-English language.

In ODST I reverted to using SLTY - but more often than not that looks worse. I'd rather not be known as Slutty over the next few years during matches. :lol
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Maybe try Dan1, or use the L instead of the I, they look the same on live I think. I guess Microsoft just dont like you :lol

Im going to probably use bobs as my callsign, I kind of liked the 1 letter 2 numbers thing more though. No doubt this will just lead to a range of identical stupid callsigns, I wonder how many w33d users I will come across every game. In ODST it wasnt so bad, because you knew who you were playing with, but on Reach its just going to ruin the system a little.
 
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The Librarian

Banned
Dani said:
One thing I noticed from ODST and also noticed when trying to modify my Live profile.

In ODST, when the Service Tag increased from three characters to four (similar to Reach), I tried entering my name, DANI, but it refused to accept it. Same thing happened when I try to enter it on my profile - I usually have to resort to spacing letters or or whatever to get it in. Is there any particular reason for this?

Is my name universally banned, is there anti-Dani stance on Live? :lol

Most likely I think my name may contain a slang term or word, at least partially, which is inappropriate or offensive in a non-English language.

In ODST I reverted to using SLTY - but more often than not that looks worse. I'd rather not be known as Slutty over the next few years during matches. :lol
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What about "Dany"?
 
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quilter46761

Member
kamikazemartian said:
The one weakness I can see is in flag touches - even though juggling may not work, it still seems possible to continuously pick up and drop the flag to max out rating.

I guess maybe a solution would be to make it a max of one touch per person per cap, which would probably then make it a game of passing the flag around to everyone on the team before capping.

Actually I suppose that wouldn't be the worst thing ever - perhaps make it so that actually capping isn't worth very much, but having many teammates touch the flag would make each touch more valuable for everyone?
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Kind of like this - everyone on the team is involved.
 
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Slightly Live

Dirty tag dodger
Just did some testing. It accepted "Dan", "Ani", "Daniel". I tried multiple combinations and letters/numbers too. Looks like my name is banned as a whole, not because it contains anything. Guess there is a specific "Dani" bias. :lol

Dani
Your name contains a word or phrase that isn't allowed. Please try again.

D a n i
Your name contains a word or phrase that isn't allowed. Please try again.

D4N1
Your name contains a word or phrase that isn't allowed. Please try again.

Ani
Fine (WTF? - I though might have been the issue. =\)

Daniel
Fine

Dany
Fine

Dana
Fine
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Wiggum2007

Junior Member
Seeing as I can no longer get my Headlong fix now that Halo 2 is axed, I demand I remake of it in Reach. Don't let me down Bungie!!

In all seriousness though, I think the addition of fall damage would add a cool new dynamic to an already classic map.
 
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Stinkles

Clothed, sober, cooperative
Dani said:
Just did some testing. It accepted "Dan", "Ani", "Daniel". I tried multiple combinations and letters/numbers too. Looks like my name is banned as a whole, not because it contains anything. Guess there is a specific "Dani" bias. :lol
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Here's my guess as to why:

"Da N-word"

I had the same issue trying to enter the term "Spice" presumably because of the offensive term "spic"

It's annoying, but racist kids made it annoying, not XBL policies.
 
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Magni

Member
Wiggum2007 said:
Seeing as I can no longer get my Headlong fix now that Halo 2 is axed, I demand I remake of it in Reach. Don't let me down Bungie!!

In all seriousness though, I think the addition of fall damage would add a cool new dynamic to an already classic map.
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Get Halo 2 Vista!

MS should push H2V a bit IMO. I mean, much more people have Vista/7 then three years ago, it's the only way to play Halo 2 on Live now, it's even got achievements :lol, why wouldn't people buy it?

Speaking of which, why are Halo Wars achievements tracked by Waypoint, but not Halo 2 Vista achievements?
 
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Shake Appeal

Member
On the subject of offensive tags, has it been confirmed that we can use all the letters and numbers to make any four-character service tag in Reach?

Because I want "SHKE".
 
Kibbles

Kibbles

Member
Dani said:
One thing I noticed from ODST and also noticed when trying to modify my Live profile.

In ODST, when the Service Tag increased from three characters to four (similar to Reach), I tried entering my name, DANI, but it refused to accept it. Same thing happened when I try to enter it on my profile - I usually have to resort to spacing letters or or whatever to get it in. Is there any particular reason for this?

Is my name universally banned, is there anti-Dani stance on Live? :lol

Most likely I think my name may contain a slang term or word, at least partially, which is inappropriate or offensive in a non-English language.

In ODST I reverted to using SLTY - but more often than not that looks worse. I'd rather not be known as Slutty over the next few years during matches. :lol
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Yeah my friend Eric couldn't put his name in either, I have no idea why.
 
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Dirtbag

Member
Shake Appeal said:
On the subject of offensive tags, has it been confirmed that we can use all the letters and numbers to make any four-character service tag in Reach?

Because I want "SHKE".
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"DIRT"

Sweet
 
Z

zumphry

Banned
SpudBud said:
"End of xbox live" video from Giant Bomb is up on Halo Waypoint.
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Really wish they'd have everything they have on the 360 "version" of Waypoint on the Waypoint website.

(I'm a lazy bastard and sometimes I can't be bothered to turn on my Xbox :lol )
 
The Lamonster

The Lamonster

Member
Doodis said:
Secret fetish revealed?
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Secret Dune fetish was never a secret

Biography:
Ho, ho, ho. The Spice must Flow!
Location:
Arakeen
Interests:
Sandtrout raising, spice mining, Galactic insurrection, prescience.
Occupation:
God Emperor
 
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NJ Shlice

Member
Speaking of names. When i changed my gamer tag from NJ x Falk0r to NJ Shlice xbox live wouldn't let me use any form of Falk0r in my motto now. Very strange.
 
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Slightly Live

Dirty tag dodger
OuterWorldVoice said:
Here's my guess as to why:
"Da N-word"
I had the same issue trying to enter the term "Spice" presumably because of the offensive term "spic"
It's annoying, but racist kids made it annoying, not XBL policies.
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I'll reclaim my name from those racists one day.
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electricpirate said:
Speaking of Frankie's taste in books I just picked up "a game of thrones" based on his thread in the ot forum. You better not have led me astray. ;)
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He hasn't. He isn't responsible either for your emotional state when you catch up and read the final published book. :D
 
F

feel

Member
electricpirate said:
Speaking of Frankie's taste in books I just picked up "a game of thrones" based on his thread in the ot forum. You better not have led me astray. ;)
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I watched Oldboy for the first time after wondering what the hell his new avatar was all about, and now it's one of my favorite movies ever. :lol
 
V

vhfive

Member
electricpirate said:
Speaking of Frankie's taste in books I just picked up "a game of thrones" based on his thread in the ot forum. You better not have led me astray. ;)
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That series is so fucking good. I'm not even a fantasy book fan and I love that series.


Also I will be trying to get my gold bars back before Reach this fall, that is my goal.
 
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SpudBud

Member
Letters said:
I watched Oldboy for the first time after wondering what the hell his new avatar was all about, and now it's one of my favorite movies ever. :lol
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If you liked Oldboy you should check out Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance and Sympathy for Lady Vengeance.
 
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