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Halo: Reach Beta Thread
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Neverender
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Just played against a team of dudes all using it except for one who was using camo/sword. I'd be 1 on 1 against one of them and as soon as they took a couple of hits they'd armour lock and a buddy would come in and finishneoxdonut said:
me off. If I managed to get the upper hand he'd use armour lock and the first guy would kill me. It was good team work but it was so frustrating.
yeah i know It's a valid tactic etc etc. So is camping in a corner waiting to assassinate a dude but i don't have to think it's ok and it's annoying as fuck.
I mostly hate that the game even has armour lock not that they were using it. Completely destroys the pace of the game for me.
Trickster
Member
neoxdonut said:
*pops enemy shield* "ooooh I got you know you fucker!" *enemy uses armor lock* "aaargh, damn you!" *gets killed by enemy backup* "NOOOOooo"
Has happend many a times for me now :lol
Not a Jellyfish said:
Wow really? I noticed it right away in my first game. Good thing Urk said it's already been fixed, just didn't make it into the beta
Digital Limit
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Mr. Sam said:
It's supposed to be good. It's a power weapon.
L0st Id3ntity
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Armor lock is my favorite addition in the game, so awesome how it can change tides.
It's especially cool when you use it in hopeless situations waiting for your teammates to come for the rescue. :lol
It's especially cool when you use it in hopeless situations waiting for your teammates to come for the rescue. :lol
Monocle said:
I am in agreement with the above, 100%. Bungie has almost entirely nerfed your ability to take evasive action by jumping/strafing/agility and essentially forced you to pick the "right" armor ability instead. Getting sprint-rushed by a guy with the gravity hammer from 15-20 feet away? Better hope you have armor lock or a rocket launcher, because good luck killing him before he gets you - you have virtually no means of getting out of the way. Back-peddling won't help because you move so damn slow, your reticle bloom limits your ability to down him before he gets to you, and jumping certainly isn't an option.
Speaking on the topic of sprint-rushing for melee/hammer/sword kills -- this needs to be nerfed. It's way overpowered right now and just encourages camping around a corner waiting for someone to come within range. Perhaps if your sprint was impeded (slowed down) while taking shots it would help to balance things out? I had a few games that devolved into people running around knifing eachother all game - it felt exactly like CoD with people employing the knifing strategy.
You can hammer people through walls and ceilings (same with sword). That's a problem.
Even going 31 wins in 38 games, a k/d over 1.5 with a 13 game winning streak - you'd think I'd be enjoying the game. And I was - at first... but now I'm not so sure anymore. Winning isn't enough - I want to enjoy myself doing it. I want to love Reach the way I've loved all previous Halo games... but it just doesn't feel like Halo. We'll see, I guess. I'm trying to keep an open mind but I don't want another CoD.
GhaleonEB said:
:lol I've hit that ledge countless times wondering why the hell didn't I make it over!? You have to hit it juuuuuust right to make it. The only thing that's taken awhile to get used to is the pause after landing from a pretty high jump where you are absorbing the impact. Can't just jump and run. Again though, just something to get used to.
BenzMoney said:
How is this different then waiting around a corner with the hammer/shotty/sword in any previous game?! :lol
Zeouterlimits
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After you've played 3 games on any one of your required amount of days it should show your average next to your name when you have the Arena playlist selected.Mizzou Gaming said:
Not a Jellyfish
but I am a sheep
Trickster said:
I barely notice it at all really, have sensitivity on 7, so don't know if that really makes a difference or not.
Mizzou Gaming
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BattleMonkey said:
I haven't used Armor Lock much but that is what my next focus will be. I have noticed people are starting to figure out the most effective ways to use it. Yesterday I stuck a guy with a plasma grenade he kills me with a sword then hits armor lock that sent the plasma grenade flying directly at my teammate and stuck him right on the back of his head. I can't wait to see how it works with vehicles and what not in the new maps and gametypes coming up.
Yeah I'm getting used to it. One of the reasons I use Sprint is that you won't pause upon falling from all but really high distances. So jumping down into the circular water basin won't stun you if you're at full sprint and make a clean jump. It's really handy on CTF and Stockpile, as I can manuver through the map really fast by landing clean jumps like that. For the rest, you can crouch and prevent fall damage. I wasn't expecting to, but the very moderate fall damage and stun upon taking large drops is something I really like in the game. It doesn't disrupt movement much, and adds something to consider when leaping around. (And it's not so severe that you can't drop from the top of Sword Base, which is what I was initially worried about when its return was announced.)TommyT said:
Monocle
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Uh, my point was about movement speed, not the disadvantages of certain spawn locations.TommyT said:
:lol
And this adds what to the conversation exactly? I never said the DMR wasn't a good weapon. In my hands, though, it's total balls.
Well gee, if you say so.
"Yes" I have, "as a matter" of "fact." Color me "unimpressed."
Armor Abilities are a different animal, and they have their place. I like them. They do not, could not and will never replace the feeling of Halo's traditional floaty jumps, which I enjoy, and which I believe are an important part of Halo's gameplay.
Criticizing a few aspects of the game isn't the same as "treating it like Halo 3." If you can't see the difference my heart goes out to you. Reading comprehension is a pretty essential life skill.
OK.
Memphis Reigns
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Lifejumper said:
I agree except for the gun movements looks so blurry like an xbox game wtf is up with that?
TommyT said:
Camping was a bad choice of words. Sprint-rushing essentially enables the person to move around the map now with the "same effect" as camping used to be: turn a corner, see someone 20 feet away, rush at them and get the kill with inpunity (even if they see you as soon as you turn the corner and start back-peddling and firing). In previous games, if you had a sword/shotty and turned a corner and the person saw you right away and started back-peddling and shooting at you, chances are you were fucked (as you should be). Why should a melee weapon beat a gun at mid range?
Edit: Basically, the "camp radius" has been increased.
-PXG- said:
This is why I use Armor Lock. For everyone using it wrong, it's a shield/counter, not a last resort. Although I feel a little bad that it seems this seems especially built to counter grenades, explosive power weapons, and close combat power weapons.
Diablohead said:
Not a Jellyfish said:
Power weapons I really don't mind. They're made to get you quick kills, and rather than limiting by clip size, they're more limited by total ammo. You only have two full clips for the shotgun, both grenade launchers run out really fast, even when you're playing conservative, and the sword and hammer get you 10 swings max, but their very nature and ease of countering prevent them from reaching that amount. The snipers seem to get off easiest as they expect people to miss more or something.
When I think about it, the only plasma weapons in the game are the Focus Rifle and Plasma Repeater, and I enjoy their endless ammo feel.
No..Monocle said:
Bungie condemns you to ten minutes of tedium.
There's absolutely NO reason a "Do you wish to concede the match?" option cannot be offered other than Bungie wanting to please its "Let's go ass rape us some Noobs!!" fanbase.
I was in a 4 on 1 match yesterday.
The other team was STILL running in a pack, grabbing power weapons, and teabagging me after every kill.
It was fucking pathetic and it saddened me to realize how much pleasure people can derive from another person's misery.
I know I probably said the same about the Halo 3 beta, but Halo Reach seriously owns.
The only problem is that when 3 came out, I was seriously disappointed with the maps. Now if Reach delivers with the maps, then I can see myself bumming this like I bummed Halo 2.
Also, what are the chances of invasion being bumped up to 8 v 8 instead of 6 v 6?
The only problem is that when 3 came out, I was seriously disappointed with the maps. Now if Reach delivers with the maps, then I can see myself bumming this like I bummed Halo 2.
Also, what are the chances of invasion being bumped up to 8 v 8 instead of 6 v 6?
Lifejumper
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Memphis Reigns said:
Urk said that they already fixed that in the final build
Monocle said:
You complained earlier that unless you had sprint you could not reach the power weapons (to which, before you clarified the power weapons, I mentioned about the DMR) did you not?
Here we go: "Want to get to a good gun on Powerhouse without Sprint? You're SOL. "
Monocle said:
In others hands though it can kill someone with a power weapon easily.
Monocle said:
Are you saying you can evade all damage (by strafing) in H3 should a grenade land directly at your feet?
Monocle said:
Sucks that you're unimpressed, you should probably complain about how you can't get into places unless you use some other method.
Monocle said:
Fixed that for you.
Too bad you can't understand that since you're talking about it.Monocle said:
Saying what you can do in H3, and how you can't do it here, is treating this game like H3. It was said before, stop trying to play Reach like Halo 3.
Bungie has said they found 6v6 (three fireteams on each side) was the sweet spot for the gametype; 16 was too chaotic. That won't preclude full 8v8 BTB stuff in other gametypes, though (or 8v8 Invasion customs).Chinner said:
FWIW, I have the exact same issue with Reach, and yes, you are still misunderstanding what he, I and others have said on the subject. You are missing the point entirely.TommyT said:
Diablohead
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Just got back indoors and it says my minutes are added, so it worked.Zeouterlimits said:
Not going to waste my points on HD as it's a bit expensive but 50 minutes worth of SD is going to serve me well, and anyone else who wants the odd render here and there, it best be a sweet kill
thunker 9000
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I cant find an answer, so ill ask again.
Once you are placed into a division, (Silver, Gold, ect.) can you move between divisions during that season? Or are you locked into your respective division for that whole season?
Once you are placed into a division, (Silver, Gold, ect.) can you move between divisions during that season? Or are you locked into your respective division for that whole season?
Sill4 said:
Doesn't it though? I recall in all my sword blocking, it's only a block in the sense that you don't die. You're left with no shields and a sliver of health while the other guy just has his shields popped. You can then melee again, but what you're really doing is neutralizing the weapon until teammates from either side get there. Unless you're quick draw with the pistol or something.
I was very, very surprised to find you can counter the Hammer lunge as well as the Sword lunge. For whatever reason, I still think of the Hammer as some kind of unstoppable object.
pringles said:
The Plasma Launcher is defeated by armor abilities. Sprint and Evade auto-breaks the lock and lets you outrun the plasma grenades. Armor Lock is obvious. I think Invis breaks the lock too, but I don't use it enough to have tried it. You're only really screwed with Jetpack, but with Jetpack you need to be sneaky anyway or you'll die to everything.
Monocle
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Maybe. Even if Bungie implemented a concede option, quitters ought to bear the responsibility for choosing to screw up an entire session. Currently quitting is a consequence-free way for assholes to waste other people's time. Why should I have to suffer for giving enough of a damn about the spirit of the game not to ruin it for everyone else?Safe Bet said:
You won't see your position in a Division (such as "top 10%") until the end of the season. But you can and will move around within it and between divisions. Luke mentioned someone moved from Silver to Steel to Onyx (or something like that) in a single season of the internal Beta.Pookaki said:
My opinion of AAs has got steadily better as I have learnt to use them. I started with just using sprint and was getting frustrated, then started mixing in jetpack to some game types and the difference it makes is huge!
Powerhouse is all about using the high ground, so I jetpack all the time. Sword base has various routes to the top, so I use sprint. Although I'm going to have to get into armour lock sooner or later, in my opinion, if you are playing with good teammates it is completely overpowered and extremely frustrating to play against.
Powerhouse is all about using the high ground, so I jetpack all the time. Sword base has various routes to the top, so I use sprint. Although I'm going to have to get into armour lock sooner or later, in my opinion, if you are playing with good teammates it is completely overpowered and extremely frustrating to play against.
It just keeps getting worse and worse...
Im thinking Bungie should make you take a quiz or something before you can post on the feedback threads...that or we just destory the internet connections of all the idiots on b.net :lol
Im thinking Bungie should make you take a quiz or something before you can post on the feedback threads...that or we just destory the internet connections of all the idiots on b.net :lol
GhaleonEB said:
Even you came to the conclusion about the grenades being the same as they were in H3. (unless that post was sarcastic, which I didn't catch) I understand why people are saying what you could do in H3 and how it made H3 fun/good, because I feel the same way. I was wondering why I couldn't make jumps, or why I should be able to cross ledges, etc. like I could in H3. Ultimately it came down (for me) that this isn't H3, and that if I wanted the same tactical/gameplay advantages that the floaty jumps gave me in H3, I would have to play differently in Reach: with sprint/jetpack.
Diablohead
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That's for invasion only, not the current modes we have right now.Raide said:
squidhands
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Reach makes this almost imperative to win, which is much different from the previous Halos. You take a much larger risk by heading off on your own (or being left behind by a sprinting/jetpacking teammate), and it makes for some pretty atrocious games if you have to play with randoms.Proven said:
I'M NOT LEAVING MY WINGMAN
PalaceBrother
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DMeisterJ said:
Are you talking about per match? I suck. I average 150 in team games and got 413 in a FFA match.
Not a Jellyfish
but I am a sheep
wwm0nkey said:
I love how the first response is a legit response by someone telling him that the feedback section is not just an area for him to bitch and then the dude gets flamed and called a fanboy for saying that. :lol
backflip10019
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:lol He's talking about Arena rating, not how many credits you earn per match. :lolPalaceBrother said:
Cuban Legend
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I've updated the B.net Thread and the GAF Post regarding the inquiry/Feature Request for "Other Players in Party" menu for the Active Roster.
I added these two photos of that feature from Halo 3 the "Halo 3 Party Details" screen and Menu, to further illustrate the point of this thread in request of this feature in time for Retail Reach:
Where is urk when we need him?:lol
I added these two photos of that feature from Halo 3 the "Halo 3 Party Details" screen and Menu, to further illustrate the point of this thread in request of this feature in time for Retail Reach:
Where is urk when we need him?:lol
I swore I got it to work on the first day of F&F, but I soon realized it was just the spawns actually being favorable to me at coincidental times. Another reason why I can't wait for Invasion.Diablohead said:
I still wait to be proven wrong on this second conclusion, but for now the game is too fast paced to be certain. For all I know, I might be too slow and it's just like when I press A for an armor ability .1 seconds too late and consider suiciding.