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Halo: Reach Beta Thread
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thunker 9000
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anyone have an idea wtf happened here?
http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/FileDetails.aspx?fid=745831
dude teleported right next to me out of nowhere.
http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/FileDetails.aspx?fid=745831
dude teleported right next to me out of nowhere.
For serious, I really only have a problem with Elites in Slayer. In vanilla Invasion, there have been times though when the Elites refuse to work together and the Spartans use the tactic of sending a few spawn campers with DMR's providing cover.Striker said:
This isn't a flaw of the game, however, a good team always beats a less organized one. It just sucks.
looks like he dropped from the Banshee.Pookaki said:
It's not a question of running in the open. The game spawns people directly in front of the other team. I posted this last night ~> link. If I didn't have a snipe and instead had another teammate with a DMR they would've been wrecked the same way. Once the locations are memorized it'll be so easy to force spawns. Poor Elites don't have a chance.Striker said:
thunker 9000
Member
Sill4 said:
That was the same dude I was shooting earlier, then he dissapeard into thin air 0_o
The Librarian
Banned
I love the Pro Pipe too much. It's the only reason I'm playing Invasion Slayer as much as I am.:lol
thunker 9000
Member
Wizpig said:
Good Idea. Ill make a video when I get home.
metareferential
Member
Thagomizer said:
There are two or three of them right in front of the spawn point.
professor_t said:I don't agree with this -- I like it the way it is, and I've barely used the hammer to this point -- but it seems like Bungie is culling data that speaks to this issue.
For example, if they find that sprinters wreak havoc on a map with the hammer, but don't demonstrate much skill with other facets of the game, it seems like this would constitute a problem (an oversimplification, but hopefully you get the point).
However, if this isn't the case, it might suggest that our subjective -- and potentially flawed -- perceptions are tarnishing our judgment (e.g., thanks to basic cognitive principles like the availability heuristic, being on the other end of a handful of egregious hammer kills can cause us to the think the system is horribly unbalanced, even if it's not).
In any event, I hope Bungie is going to listen to the fans, but at the same time will pay close mind to the data. No offense, but I trust it a lot more than I trust the fans.
I'm not saying I disagree with a lot of the criticisms levied against the game, but I hope Bungie essentially disregards complaints that aren't backed up by hard data.
Wel obviously bungie isn't going to change the game just because of a few posts on the internet, but compared to the other melee weapon (the sword), which has been toned down a lot since halo 3, the hammer has gotten a lot more powerful because of this. That leads me to think that the hammer + sprint combo was never really intended to work the way it does now, and is more of an oversight.
Also many of complaints/suggestions can't really be backed up by data, like the jump hight or movement speed, it's mostly subjective, but that doesn't mean it is perfect the way it is now.
The first 2 parts of invasion are ridiculously easy as elites. I've never played a game where the elites didn't reach stage 3.Striker said:
However, I've never played a game where the elites have won either. Carrying the core slow as hell across the plain while the Spartans have Scorpions, Warthogs, and every possible combination of weapon and AA, is a close to impossible task.
thunker 9000
Member
Wizpig said:
My PoV: http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/FileDetails.aspx?fid=745831
His PoV: http://www.bungie.net/Stats/Reach/FileDetails.aspx?fid=843169
Broked.
I experience mega slowdown when someone joins or leaves an Xbox Live chat party. while in game. It gets pretty bad.
Edit: F&F Download here.
Yes, that's a common issue, we should report it but I'm sure Bungie already knows.Pookaki said:
Still, I'm talking about low FPS when there are like 3 veichles and lots of explosions.
Hmm...
ps. yeah that was definitely a lag spike or a bug or something...
@Willeth: are you playing through ODST?
I am of the opinion that spawning is broken in Invasion. I either have an issue where it says "Waiting to spawn.." for upwards of beyond 10 seconds, or I spawn right in front of enemies, enemies in front of me, etc. I just don't think the buddy system is worth all the hassle this is causing. I just want to die, wait a couple seconds, and then play some more. Not sit there spamming A on my controller ;_;
Slightly Live
Dirty tag dodger
Wizpig said:
Occasionally, during messy vehicle/explosion situations when I'm caught in ground zero. Usually the slowdown is brief and dips by a handful of frames.
Dax01 said:
You mean the grenade launcher? I can't seem to get used to it. Too used to bouncing Brute Shots on the ground at a person. The Grenade Launcher in Reach is too short and doesn't seem to have splash damage whenever I use it. :lol
Sai-kun said:
Then stop doing it, asshole.
Slightly Live
Dirty tag dodger
I have a question, if you could answer Urk or anyone else I'd appreciate it.
When spawning during a game of Invasion, either Slayer or Invasion proper, and if I choose to spawn away from my battle partner in an isolated area, is it normal for there to be a delay between when the respawn timer countdown reaches zero and the moment I respawn?
See, I've repeatedly decided to spawn away from the action in both game modes and when the timer hits zero I'm expecting to respawn instantly, but I don't. There's a noticeable delay of somewhere between a second or two (it's not a fixed duration). Seems like it's unlikely to be kept from spawning for a few additional seconds and that's why I'm asking.
Also, does anyone else experience this?
When spawning during a game of Invasion, either Slayer or Invasion proper, and if I choose to spawn away from my battle partner in an isolated area, is it normal for there to be a delay between when the respawn timer countdown reaches zero and the moment I respawn?
See, I've repeatedly decided to spawn away from the action in both game modes and when the timer hits zero I'm expecting to respawn instantly, but I don't. There's a noticeable delay of somewhere between a second or two (it's not a fixed duration). Seems like it's unlikely to be kept from spawning for a few additional seconds and that's why I'm asking.
Also, does anyone else experience this?
The Librarian
Banned
It happens to everyone.Dani said:
Slightly Live
Dirty tag dodger
Dax01 said:
I take it that it's a bug and not intentional then. =)
UltimaPooh
Member
Ssparks said:
I'm down.
GT: Josef Redbeard.
I'm also on the OG HALOGAFBETA gamertag.
electricpirate
Member
You know that once you get up to the lower level on cliff side you can circle around and come out where the Spartans spawn right?GhaleonEB said:
I haven't fully made up an oppinion about invasion yet, but I love the buddy system. I haven't been left at the museum yet!
Seriously, having a battle brown you can trust is so awesome. I like to sneak in with camo, and let him spawn in at the start.
Here is an example of why I think the banhammer for quitting is bullshit.
I just played an Invasion game in which the other team (Spartans with DMR's) used the spawn kill/ cover fire approach. My team was ridiculously unorganized/sucky, and my battle bro quit in the first minute, leaving me to spawn into 4 Spartans every time. So I quit.
To think that I will be punished for not wanting to spend 4 minutes re-spawning makes me
I just played an Invasion game in which the other team (Spartans with DMR's) used the spawn kill/ cover fire approach. My team was ridiculously unorganized/sucky, and my battle bro quit in the first minute, leaving me to spawn into 4 Spartans every time. So I quit.
To think that I will be punished for not wanting to spend 4 minutes re-spawning makes me
Came across a weird bug today in this game. Our team of five were all Elites in Invasion Slayer.
Our team:
DogEight
Willeth
Dixonater
Kor of Memory
MrBeeb
and PFC cupcakeman, who was a random not in our party. We were in a Live party, if it makes a difference.
Early on in the game, someone on our team makes a comment like 'hey, I didn't know Willeth was on the other team.' I told him I wasn't. He said he saw me as a Spartan, but at that point I was an Elite on the back of a Wraith and had died shortly before he said it.
Later in the game, I was in the turret of a Wraith and saw a Spartan with MrBeeb above his head in red. The film shows it as padraig08, but I know what I saw in-game. Look at the film, MrBeeb was actually behind him almost on a direct line of sight from me to padraig.
I'll upload some screenshots tomorrow, but the images won't show the bug, only the setup. Has anyone else seen this? I'd put it down to me misreading the screen if someone hadn't also mentioned it earlier in the game.
Our team:
DogEight
Willeth
Dixonater
Kor of Memory
MrBeeb
and PFC cupcakeman, who was a random not in our party. We were in a Live party, if it makes a difference.
Early on in the game, someone on our team makes a comment like 'hey, I didn't know Willeth was on the other team.' I told him I wasn't. He said he saw me as a Spartan, but at that point I was an Elite on the back of a Wraith and had died shortly before he said it.
Later in the game, I was in the turret of a Wraith and saw a Spartan with MrBeeb above his head in red. The film shows it as padraig08, but I know what I saw in-game. Look at the film, MrBeeb was actually behind him almost on a direct line of sight from me to padraig.
I'll upload some screenshots tomorrow, but the images won't show the bug, only the setup. Has anyone else seen this? I'd put it down to me misreading the screen if someone hadn't also mentioned it earlier in the game.
Devin Olsen
Member
It's lag... Look at your game clock, it is frozen at 1:09 for quite a while.Pookaki said:
You can tell it is lagging because he is shooting at nothing on the ground. You saw one thing, while in reality something else was happening. When the game did sync up he just happened to be right in front of you.
Not Reach's fault, just your Internets
Not a Jellyfish
but I am a sheep
I am really starting to like Invasion, the more I play it the more I like it and the more I love the DMR.
DJmizuhara
Member
Finally got into playing some Halo Reach yesterday and today with my 3 of my friends in the same room. We had 4 360's and 3 monitors and a HDTV running, my room was crazy hot, I'm surprised that we didn't get any RRoD's. We started at 7pm and finished playing at 3:30am...I totally suck at Halo although I had a real good time. Will carry on again tonight...another 8 hour gaming session...my wife is going to be pissed.
Slightly Live
Dirty tag dodger
Invasion, host quits, the Elites and Spartans start dying in random spots of the map including the capture territories. Four folks stuck in infinite respawn hell. =\
You won't be punished for that. Occassional quits out of neccessity are being accounted for. Bans are reserved for players who exhibit a clear pattern of habitual quitting.Sill4 said:Here is an example of why I think the banhammer for quitting is bullshit.
I just played an Invasion game in which the other team (Spartans with DMR's) used the spawn kill/ cover fire approach. My team was ridiculously unorganized/sucky, and my battle bro quit in the first minute, leaving me to spawn into 4 Spartans every time. So I quit.
To think that I will be punished for not wanting to spend 4 minutes re-spawning makes me
Trickster
Member
Sill4 said:Here is an example of why I think the banhammer for quitting is bullshit.
I just played an Invasion game in which the other team (Spartans with DMR's) used the spawn kill/ cover fire approach. My team was ridiculously unorganized/sucky, and my battle bro quit in the first minute, leaving me to spawn into 4 Spartans every time. So I quit.
To think that I will be punished for not wanting to spend 4 minutes re-spawning makes me
Didn't urk adress this in the BWU as well? something about them just ending the game in a scenario you are descriping.
Also I would hope that they would be able to program the system so that if for example, half your team quits in an arena game, you would not get punished for leaving as well.
DeadFalling
Member
Dax01 said:
tell me your secrets.
edit: also, is there any way to view this cool little chart except for ALL games?
Pretty sure you can't, but it would be really cool to be able to see all your games displayed in a chart similar to that so that you could see over time if you got better/worse at Reach.
The Librarian
Banned
I love it when Elites rush at me with the sword and I just aim straight and make 'em explode.:lolDeadFalling said:
Sanic
Member
user_nat said:
Reduction of geometry detail is far more aggressive than in Halo 3, splitscreen or otherwise. It bothers me the most on Sword Base, where it feels like every single part of the level can take a dramatic hit in detail if you're far enough away, like almost (every?) wall, for example. The paneling that runs along the bottom of most of the walls is where it is most noticeable, as they'll take a big hit from a short distance.