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Halo: Reach |OT5| A Monument to All Our Sins
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Hydranockz
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Time to sift through Major Nelson's blog for Live activity... Good luck broKibbles said:
Zeouterlimits
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Did the redesigned ring bother anyone else apart from Flipyap and I?
Devolution
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Zeouterlimits said:
It doesn't look like a world anymore.
Syracuse022
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I hate it. So not in keeping with what we've come to expect from Forerunner architecture.Zeouterlimits said:
I like it.Zeouterlimits said:
Yes. http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=438212Gui_PT said:
Gabotron ES
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I personally love the new one.Zeouterlimits said:
Hydranockz
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The left 'rail' lacks depth so it is a bit jarring for me. Seeing how it looks on the right makes it look far better.Zeouterlimits said:
Why hasn't the Chief gone to look over the 'edge' of the ring????
ElzarTheBam
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Hydranockz said:Time to sift through Major Nelson's blog for Live activity... Good luck bro
Or do a quick google search
, the link doesn't work but here you gohttp://majornelson.com/2008/01/21/live-activity-for-week-of-1-14
It was call of duty 4 that beat halo 3 on 14/01/2008, however the following week Halo 3 was back at the top, However! It was then beaten again by COD 4!
Barrow Roll
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Nope, not at all. When you're zoomed out in space at that distance you shouldn't be able to make out such distinct patterns and shapes on the surface. Me no likey.Devolution said:
Hydranockz
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Guh... goo... nah you lost meElzarTheBam said:Or do a quick google search
http://majornelson.com/2008/01/21/live-activity-for-week-of-1-14
It was call of duty 4 that beat halo 3 on 14/01/2008, however the following week Halo 3 was back at the top, However! It was then beaten again by COD 4!
(I am pretty sure I played you in Reach not waaay too long ago.)
ElRenoRaven
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I don't mind it except the sides. I don't like how they come down and hang off at the bottom of the ring. If they were to fix that I'd be perfectly fine with it.
Devolution
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Letters said:
I don't like the inside. Doesn't remind me of landscape.
ElzarTheBam
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Hydranockz said:Guh... goo... nah you lost me
Indeed Multi team, It was team HBO against Team Gaf, you, hypertrooper and someone else. You managed to win by 8 kills (i think) boo! Lol, just kidding! was cool.
Barrow Roll said:
Tunavi's example for why Jetpacks are broken wasn't good.
The easiest and most obvious ways Jetpacks are broken is
1. By-pass all short cover by jetting straight up for a better vantage point/fly over it.
2. Breaks all elements of level design, map flow, and high ground power areas.
I know everyone has opinions and shit but I can't believe anyone would disagree with this. Jetpacks on Cage render all the catwalks and platforms useless. Jetpacks on Reflection make all the lifts/snipe spawn pointless. Jetpacks on Asylum make the open entrances to Ring 2 useless.
FyreWulff said:
Wow... Thanks for finding this. Now hopefully everyone stops using the BUNGLE DESIGNED THE MAPS FOR THEM excuse.
As for Halo CEA and Terminals and stuff. Awesome. I didn't catch the livestream/blog. Besides the terminal and the confirmed 1 Halo 2 map... any other revelations?
ElRenoRaven
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A27 Tawpgun said:
Tunavi's example for why Jetpacks are broken wasn't good.
The easiest and most obvious ways Jetpacks are broken is
1. By-pass all short cover by jetting straight up for a better vantage point/fly over it.
2. Breaks all elements of level design, map flow, and high ground power areas.
I know everyone has opinions and shit but I can't believe anyone would disagree with this. Jetpacks on Cage render all the catwalks and platforms useless. Jetpacks on Reflection make all the lifts/snipe spawn pointless. Jetpacks on Asylum make the open entrances to Ring 2 useless.
Wow... Thanks for finding this. Now hopefully everyone stops using the BUNGLE DESIGNED THE MAPS FOR THEM excuse.
As for Halo CEA and Terminals and stuff. Awesome. I didn't catch the livestream/blog. Besides the terminal and the confirmed 1 Halo 2 map... any other revelations?
You know I always have wondered what Reach both Single and Multiplayer would have played like without them. I bet it would have been glorious.
Devolution
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A27 Tawpgun said:
Not that it would matter, either way their ineptitude shines through, it's just whether they were too stupid to design the maps around AAs or whether they failed to design the maps well around AAs.
ElRenoRaven
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Devolution said:
I don't think it was ineptitude but just that Bungie was so burnt out and wanted to try something new that didn't work. I really think that the separation from Halo will be good for both Bungie and hopefully Halo too.
Barrow Roll
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Don't get me wrong, I'm not the biggest fan of Jetpack either. But likewise, I thought Tunavi's example was a poor one. Both of your points are correct. What I find questionable is the use of the word "broken."A27 Tawpgun said:
It's like the jump from "dislike" to "hatred." Broken is pretty extreme.
Jetpacks are flawed and poorly implemented but are also offset (however, not properly balanced) by their weaknesses. As in being a sitting duck in the sky and a slow moving, easy target.
Implementation as a limited pick-up, only on certain maps or having the maps properly designed around jetpacks is the proper way to go.
xxjuicesxx
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Hypertrooper
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I guess the game was 3-4 weeks ago. I said that we play against someone from HBO. After the game, you sent me a message.ElzarTheBam said:
Devolution
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PsychoRaven said:
Yeah well we can argue about whether it was ineptitude or being burnt out, either way we're left with the same thing, AAs that can make or break a gametype or map.
Hydranockz
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Probably Zalin. I remember awkwardly wondering out loud if that was indeed the same Elzar that I saw on HBOElzarTheBam said:
Devolution
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xxjuicesxx said:
I haven't played on the new warlock, how is it?
ElRenoRaven
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Devolution said:
True. I wish they were all gone but if we have to have any of them then I say keep them all. Hence when I'm playing in a playlist with them I'm one of them evil evil Armorlocking assholes that everyone rages on. lol
Oh, yeah, didn't even notice that change. I've seen planet earth picture taken from space looking that detailed and colorful. I'll be honest, I think it looks better, light probably shouldn't be noticed randomly shining off the surface/water at this distance like it used to. Maybe the original look led you to believe Halo installations were bigger than they actually are?Devolution said:
And in this subject, it's a shame we never got to walk/expore near the edge of one, to the point of being able to climb the big walls (seen in Tempest) and look down into space..
ElRenoRaven
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xxjuicesxx said:
See now that shit irks me. Go for the fucking objective. I hate people that sit back and play an objective gametype like it's fucking slayer. Course I'm not going to turn the thread into an argument about it and certainly don't hate anyone here. Even if you are one of them.
People disagree because not all maps are small-medium sized infantry maps (a large portion also being remakes). On the maps you listed they're certainly problematic. On larger BTB maps with air vehicles, sniper rifles, and large horizontal stretches, the Jetpack fits quite snugly and has numerous downsides and counters. It isn't broken, but it's certainly arguable that Bungie's approach to loadouts and AA allotments is.A27 Tawpgun said:
Hydranockz
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xxjuicesxx said:
I liked the triple for the inconceivable.
I also liked that the centre became a merry-go-round for Blue team.
omg.kittens said:
Eh, my friends hate playing games with me, they know I'll drop the ole deuce on them. But the few times my friends and I actually manage to hang out these days, games are the last thing on our minds at the time. To each their own, they should still be in a separate playlist though.
xxjuicesxx
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PsychoRaven said:
I'm providing a valuable service I'm the main slayer in that setup (Obvy because I'm so pro) This lets my team get the hill with EASE. You can't just run straight to the objective and expect to win (In fact thats what blue team did if you look - that doesn't work) You need to slay hard in objective, in fact slaying hard lets you get control of a map so you can run an objective. This is how objective is done historically. If you know what you're doing that is. Do you think any pro team just ran straight to the flag in Pit CTF? No they downed three or four at once and then ran it and then forced respawn down at snipe side.
The only problem with the settings in the game I played is that the respawn is definitely too low. If you go watch an MLG Hill on Warlock you can see the respawn is higher so when you die you have to wait out a bit longer. I did give them 59 kills x 4 seconds of respawn. That's 4 minutes of players being in respawn screen not being able to play an objective. Its a solid addition to the team.
In this post I just schooled you on how to be good. You're welcome.
Hydranockz
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This is pretty true. Guarding the hill (essentially what Juices was doing) is quite important and for none of their team to acknowledge he was even there is pretty silly.xxjuicesxx said:
No quitters though...
xxjuicesxx said:
Not only that, but by donging that harshly, we are clearing out XBL for the rest of you folks. You complain about not finding people of similar skill, well, I'm proud to say we do the dirty job of cleaning out the scrubs via discouragement. It's a hard job, but we're doing a valuable service for the Halo community. If anyone wants to PM me to say thanks or perhaps send a nice E-Greeting card it would be much appreciated.
ElRenoRaven
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xxjuicesxx said:
I'm happy being a bad. Thank you very much though. Besides I don't play objective so I don't have to worry about it. So anyway any bets on what time the video of the panel is up tomorrow?
Hydranockz
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Different avatar every day? I swear the time you changed the eyes creeped me out.FyreWulff said:
Snipers will be interesting to see how much people really want that jackpot.
ElRenoRaven
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FyreWulff said:
Oh sucks for those that go out of their way to get it. Glad I really don't worry about credits anymore. It improved my enjoyment of the game a ton.
xxjuicesxx
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Hydranockz said:
Not until I hit my Unfriggen then kill white1 guy quit out.
Also yes in MLG the common setup was to have a guy at Yellow Green and Red or Blue effectively creating a diamond of crossfire on the opposite base. This allowed for quick kills and enough angle to always be able to hit someone. Eventually they moved to moving setups revolving around the teleporters and top bases, I never grasped it but Warlock is a beautiful map with such an easy color system and spawn system (Its borked in Reach though)
Balancing slayer and objective playstyles during a game is such a common issue, the low respawn timer in Classic Objective kind of kills that but not to an extent that its useless to slay and teams should just run purely objective playstyles.
Later tonight we're running Snipers for the jackpot! I'm excited Snipers doesn't get enough credit and its a decent playlist. I took that loss earlier today hard because its such an easy playlist for me in the past. Plus I hate losing.
Also Kyle I'm the BKCleansing because this way I'm named after the entire event/movement. Not just a singular person (at which point I'd go with BKJanitor or something)